I remember reading somewhere that there are plans to tidy up the surrounding area. Ex: Restaurants, bars, etc. More like a Wrigley Field feel. Anyone know any of their plans?

I remember reading somewhere that there are plans to tidy up the surrounding area. Ex: Restaurants, bars, etc. More like a Wrigley Field feel. Anyone know any of their plans?

There are plenty of restaurants, on every corner at the stadium-the best hot dogs, arepa's, shish ka bob, suasages etc. Just no seating, and lots of drinking.

Whatever "plans" there are for the surrounding area are not going to be drawn up by the City. At this point, it's going to depend on private investors who feel that changing the make-up of the area will be a good financial investment, that will drive the re-development.

 

For example, if someone like Codina, Jorge Perez, Rendina, etc. decide that developing a mixed-use project on NW 7 Street that may include apartments, shops, restaurants, is going to be a financial windfall, I'm sure the City will not stand in their way to allow for a re-zoning and redevelopment of the property. It's going to happen piecemeal, and that's the equation that the City is banking on to spur redevelopment and revitalization in the area. The windfall for the City is the increased property taxes that will be assessed from the Commercial and Residential Rental properties that would naturally flow from creating a "ballpark village."

 

If I had the money and ability, I'd love to grab up some parcels to create a mixed-use development that would allow for an ESPNZone to come in (especially right there on the corner of NW 7 Street and NW 17 Avenue.

I sure hope they clean that area up and have on site parking. I still have nightmares about going to UM games there. Parking cons, cars stolen or broken into, robberies. That is why we stopped going to UM games, at the Orange Bowl. No on site parking, like at Dolphin Stadium, will make 2009 my last year for going down to Marlin games.

I sure hope they clean that area up and have on site parking. I still have nightmares about going to UM games there. Parking cons, cars stolen or broken into, robberies. That is why we stopped going to UM games, at the Orange Bowl. No on site parking, like at Dolphin Stadium, will make 2009 my last year for going down to Marlin games.

 

I've gone to Dolphins games and Hurricanes games at the OB for years and never had my car broken into or been robbed. Plus, nobody else I know has ever had any problem with their cars or the neighborhood around the OB, and we're talking about a span of 25 years! The only problem I ever had was having a drunk white redneck accost us outside of the OB after a Dolphins game (and that is one of the major factors why I just don't bother going to Dolphins games, there are just too many idiotic, moronic, drunk rednecks who think they need to be more "macho" than the guys on the field by picking fights in the stands for no reason whatsoever), and he was a ticketholder to the game, not a resident of the area! You must have just a really bad spate of luck (or you just have a perception that bad things happen in that area).

 

Plus, crime like that happens everywhere. Geez, three people have been robbed and killed at the Town Center Mall parking lot in Boca Raton in the last six months (including another woman who was robbed, but somehow her life and the life of her two year old son was sparred) -- and nobody would consider Boca Raton a derelict area!

I sure hope they clean that area up and have on site parking. I still have nightmares about going to UM games there. Parking cons, cars stolen or broken into, robberies. That is why we stopped going to UM games, at the Orange Bowl. No on site parking, like at Dolphin Stadium, will make 2009 my last year for going down to Marlin games.

 

I've gone to Dolphins games and Hurricanes games at the OB for years and never had my car broken into or been robbed. Plus, crime like that happens everywhere. Geez, three people have been robbed and killed at the Town Center Mall parking lot in Boca Raton in the last six months (including another woman who was robbed, but somehow her life and the life of her two year old son was sparred) -- and nobody would consider Boca Raton a derelict area!

Wish I could say that. Once we parked and paid someone for parking in the yard, that we thought was their house, when it wasn't. When we came out of the game the car had been towed by the real owner of the property. Another time we were parked on the street and the car was broken into, the radio and a few other items were stolen out of it. The second time was my last trip to the Orange Bowl, that is why I will never go there again unless they have on site parking.

The neighborhood isn't nice and doesn't have anything (right now) to do before or after a game, but it isn't dangerous or violent.

 

It's important to remember that just because a neighborhood is run down (which it is), dirty (which it is) and poor (which it is), the people I have encountered around it are very friendly and it is safe.

The neighborhood isn't nice and doesn't have anything (right now) to do before or after a game, but it isn't dangerous or violent.

 

It's important to remember that just because a neighborhood is run down (which it is), dirty (which it is) and poor (which it is), the people I have encountered around it are very friendly and it is safe.

How much do you want to bet a player gets robbed and pistol whipped while leaving the stadium the first year.

I actually told my friend today that I want to drive around the site next time I am down (in March) and see if there is any place worth buying up. I am sure a nice bar near the stadium would make a killing. Right now all I remember are some sh*t hole places. I am sure the land/property isnt that expensive. A beer only license is a lot cheaper than a full bar license (atleast thats how it works in a lot of states).

I wouldn't invest in land in that area. I think most people will go to the game and then go back home or back to their own neighborhood. If they do stay in Miami, they'll head over to South Beach. On the security issues, they're valid. Miami Arena, AA arena, both in a city with no on-site parking, and there's been some instances of criminal activity at both venues, unlike at Joe Robbie, where the parking is all on-site and it's not in a city. I don't think that it's a concern however. Once the initial rush is over....heck, by June of the first season, the 6000 space garage should be more than enough to handle the crowds. With the exception of Friday/Saturday nights and hopefully playoff games.

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Edit: In thinking about it, the 6000 garage spaces will probablly all be taken by season ticket holders, whether they show up or not. That parking garage pass is going to be a major lure in selling season tix. Those without season tickets will be facing the same parking situation that existed with the Dolphins and 'Canes. Except it won't be nearly as bad, since you'll have probably 15k asses in the seats, as opposed to the 50k plus at the football games.

The area will get nicer. That's a certainty with having baseball in the area for 81+ games per year.

 

I just hope they will somehow solve the transportation issues.

The neighborhood isn't nice and doesn't have anything (right now) to do before or after a game, but it isn't dangerous or violent.

 

It's important to remember that just because a neighborhood is run down (which it is), dirty (which it is) and poor (which it is), the people I have encountered around it are very friendly and it is safe.

How much do you want to bet a player gets robbed and pistol whipped while leaving the stadium the first year.

 

 

 

 

Im up for a ban bet.

 

If no player gets robbed (and the crime has to fit the FL State Statute for Robbery) for the entire year then you take a month off from the site.

 

If a player DOES get robbed in the FIRST calendar year, I will take a month off.

me and friend park at apt one block from OB people were nice and i felf safe i want to fiu vs um the one were players from both team got into fight

The neighborhood isn't nice and doesn't have anything (right now) to do before or after a game, but it isn't dangerous or violent.

 

It's important to remember that just because a neighborhood is run down (which it is), dirty (which it is) and poor (which it is), the people I have encountered around it are very friendly and it is safe.

How much do you want to bet a player gets robbed and pistol whipped while leaving the stadium the first year.

 

I am willing and able to bet far more than you are able to lose. And no...I don't want your first born male child either.

I wouldn't invest in land in that area. I think most people will go to the game and then go back home or back to their own neighborhood. If they do stay in Miami, they'll head over to South Beach. On the security issues, they're valid. Miami Arena, AA arena, both in a city with no on-site parking, and there's been some instances of criminal activity at both venues, unlike at Joe Robbie, where the parking is all on-site and it's not in a city. I don't think that it's a concern however. Once the initial rush is over....heck, by June of the first season, the 6000 space garage should be more than enough to handle the crowds. With the exception of Friday/Saturday nights and hopefully playoff games.

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Edit: In thinking about it, the 6000 garage spaces will probablly all be taken by season ticket holders, whether they show up or not. That parking garage pass is going to be a major lure in selling season tix. Those without season tickets will be facing the same parking situation that existed with the Dolphins and 'Canes. Except it won't be nearly as bad, since you'll have probably 15k asses in the seats, as opposed to the 50k plus at the football games.

 

I keep hearing and reading so many different stories on the amount of vailable parking that I'm just going to wait for the drawings/actual plans to come out.

The neighborhood isn't nice and doesn't have anything (right now) to do before or after a game, but it isn't dangerous or violent.

 

It's important to remember that just because a neighborhood is run down (which it is), dirty (which it is) and poor (which it is), the people I have encountered around it are very friendly and it is safe.

How much do you want to bet a player gets robbed and pistol whipped while leaving the stadium the first year.

What a stupid comment.....

This neighborhood is not anywhere close to as dangerous as Yankee Stadium, US Cellular, or even the Wrigley area after dark....

Retro_Marlins is probably from Palm County County or Northwest Broward and has no idea what he's talking about.

Retro_Marlins is probably from Palm County County or Northwest Broward and has no idea what he's talking about.

Ditto. It's ignorant misinformed people like that who are putting a negative spin on this. Hell, I'm pretty sure the area around Dolphin Stadium has a higher violent crime rate than Little Havana.

Retro_Marlins is probably from Palm County County or Northwest Broward and has no idea what he's talking about.

Ditto. It's ignorant misinformed people like that who are putting a negative spin on this. Hell, I'm pretty sure the area around Dolphin Stadium has a higher violent crime rate than Little Havana.

I have been going to games at Dolphin Stadium for years, with on site parking and never had problem 1. At the Orange Bowl we got caught in a parking scam that cost us towing charge and had the car broken into and things stolen. I don't think that is misinformed at all, it is reality.

I want to see a new stadium as much as anyone else, but I think public safety needs to play a big role in the planning of it.

I have no desire to park at an off site location, I would have no way to verify the parking spot is legit and safe .

Retro_Marlins is probably from Palm County County or Northwest Broward and has no idea what he's talking about.

Ditto. It's ignorant misinformed people like that who are putting a negative spin on this. Hell, I'm pretty sure the area around Dolphin Stadium has a higher violent crime rate than Little Havana.

I have been going to games at Dolphin Stadium for years, with on site parking and never had problem 1. At the Orange Bowl we got caught in a parking scam that cost us towing charge and had the car broken into and things stolen. I don't think that is misinformed at all, it is reality.

I want to see a new stadium as much as anyone else, but I think public safety needs to play a big role in the planning of it.

 

Having it happen once to you does not equal "reality." It just means you got caught in some bad luck. As I said, I NEVER had a problem at the OB during both day and night games. If it is your "reality," then it is also my "reality."

 

As I pointed out before, crime will happen ANYWHERE, and I mean ANYWHERE!!! However, I think most people have a perception that the area around the OB is "dangerous," because the neighborhood doesn't look like their "lilly-white suburban fortifications." That is where people get rubbed the wrong way because some folks (and I'm not saying you're one of them) automatically assume that a lower middle class Latin or black neighborhood is inherently more dangerous than a similar white neighborhood. However, press those folks for actual crime statistics, and they can never back it up!

 

Sadly, though, you probably have better odds of getting mugged or robbed in the parking lot of Dadeland Mall, Aventura Mall, Town Center Mall, and Sawgrass Mills than you do leaving the OB on NW 7 Street.

Retro_Marlins is probably from Palm County County or Northwest Broward and has no idea what he's talking about.

Ditto. It's ignorant misinformed people like that who are putting a negative spin on this. Hell, I'm pretty sure the area around Dolphin Stadium has a higher violent crime rate than Little Havana.

I have been going to games at Dolphin Stadium for years, with on site parking and never had problem 1. At the Orange Bowl we got caught in a parking scam that cost us towing charge and had the car broken into and things stolen. I don't think that is misinformed at all, it is reality.

I want to see a new stadium as much as anyone else, but I think public safety needs to play a big role in the planning of it.

My point exactly.I had a similar experience in that location, although nothing was stolen.The area is what it is and we shouldn't sugarcoat it because were bias fans towards our team.

 

The area isn't all the bad.It could be alot worse, but it's certainly not a great or good area.

Retro_Marlins is probably from Palm County County or Northwest Broward and has no idea what he's talking about.

Ditto. It's ignorant misinformed people like that who are putting a negative spin on this. Hell, I'm pretty sure the area around Dolphin Stadium has a higher violent crime rate than Little Havana.

I have been going to games at Dolphin Stadium for years, with on site parking and never had problem 1. At the Orange Bowl we got caught in a parking scam that cost us towing charge and had the car broken into and things stolen. I don't think that is misinformed at all, it is reality.

I want to see a new stadium as much as anyone else, but I think public safety needs to play a big role in the planning of it.

My point exactly.I had a similar experience in that location, although nothing was stolen.The area is what it is and we shouldn't sugarcoat it because were bias fans towards our team.

 

The area isn't all the bad.It could be alot worse, but it's certainly not a great or good area.

the area is not a ghetto, sure is poor but is not like theres a bunch of thugs living there. You take risk parking in someone's yard is not like everyone in any given town is honest, but I dont think anyone would get shot and killed in the area.

As I pointed out before, crime will happen ANYWHERE, and I mean ANYWHERE!!! However, I think most people have a perception that the area around the OB is "dangerous," because the neighborhood doesn't look like their "lilly-white suburban fortifications." That is where people get rubbed the wrong way because some folks (and I'm not saying you're one of them) automatically assume that a lower middle class Latin or black neighborhood is inherently more dangerous than a similar white neighborhood. However, press those folks for actual crime statistics, and they can never back it up!

You are correct, it can happen anywhere. The neighborhood has very little to do with the crimes, many times it is outsiders that go to that area, to commit the crimes. You get the low life's that will go to where ever the stadium is to commit their crimes and take advantage of the situation. You could build the stadium in a neighborhood of $1,000,000 homes in Boca Raton and you will still have the crime element that will go to that area, to prey on the visitors. My point is simply, on site parking is a lot safer, than people roaming around a neighborhood they know nothing about, looking for a parking space.

 

Gee, I got my tickets for the February 29th and April 13th Marlins/Nationals games, here at Space Coast Stadium. Sure glad they have on site parking. :whistle

Retro_Marlins is probably from Palm County County or Northwest Broward and has no idea what he's talking about.

Ditto. It's ignorant misinformed people like that who are putting a negative spin on this. Hell, I'm pretty sure the area around Dolphin Stadium has a higher violent crime rate than Little Havana.

I have been going to games at Dolphin Stadium for years, with on site parking and never had problem 1. At the Orange Bowl we got caught in a parking scam that cost us towing charge and had the car broken into and things stolen. I don't think that is misinformed at all, it is reality.

I want to see a new stadium as much as anyone else, but I think public safety needs to play a big role in the planning of it.

You know what reality is? The reality that Dolphin Stadium is in Miami Garden's which has the 19th highest "murder rank".

 

Just because you got your car broken into once doesn't make it a high crime district. The statistics just don't back you up. That's reality.

 

I've never had my car broken into, there or anywhere else, but I know people who have had that happen...

 

At Dolphin Mall... and in Disney World...

 

Is Disney World a dangerous place now?