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What Ever Happened to a Platoon at Catcher?


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They're being stupid. Not that Matt Treanor is a spectacular player (he isn't) but for some apparent reason the front office has zero trust in him. Instead they prefer to start these Beinfest Players that ironically are worse than Treanor is.

 

Why the Marlins stuck with Olivo for so long baffles me. Rabelo is at least a defensive upgrade over Treanor but I'd rather have Treanor's bat.

 

The fact that the Marlins targetted Rabelo at all in the Cabrera trade tells me that they wanted him to be the primary starter. This really isn't unexpected.

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Why the Marlins stuck with Olivo for so long baffles me. Rabelo is at least a defensive upgrade over Treanor but I'd rather have Treanor's bat.

 

 

Actually, you're confused.

Treanor is better defensively.

Rabelo is better offensively (more power).

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Rabelo isn't a power hitter. As a whole Treanor displayed greater power numbers out of the two respective minor league careers. I don't buy that argument.

 

Treanor having better defense? Maybe. From the limited innings I've seen from Rabelo, it appeared that his arm was superior to me. Only time will tell.

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Why the Marlins stuck with Olivo for so long baffles me. Rabelo is at least a defensive upgrade over Treanor but I'd rather have Treanor's bat.

 

 

Actually, you're confused.

Treanor is better defensively.

Rabelo is better offensively (more power).

That was how I figured it too. Rabelo had a few balls get past him today, and I'm sure the FO finds something intriguing about a switch hitting catcher (at the price Rabelo came for). Although Treanor's career Minor league numbers (vs Rabelo's) would suggest that he's also a better hitter, I guess one has to consider the amount of time Treanor spent down there.

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You cannot discount Treanor's superior minor and major league numbers on account of him having more experience. That is purely ludicrous. Rabelo is already 28 years old and has shown no real offensive success at any level other than his 200 ABs in double A.

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I really don't know what about Rabelo makes them think he is the guy at catcher.

Precisely why he earns the title of Beinfest Player. It might be a tad premature but he could join the ranks of Abercrombie, Julio, and Olivo.

 

Again, I'm basing this entirely on my own projections of him through his minor league numbers.

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I really don't know what about Rabelo makes them think he is the guy at catcher.

Precisely why he earns the title of Beinfest Player. It might be a tad premature but he could join the ranks of Abercrombie, Julio, and Olivo.

 

 

 

 

Why are we all of the sudden bashing the best GM in the league?

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And he's not the best GM in the league.

 

 

Who is in your mind, then?

 

 

I'm no penguino, and my opinion doesn't matter, but in no order:

 

Billy Beane

Dave Dombrowski

Theo Epstein

John Schuerholz (yea and Beinfest isn't really our GM either...so don't say it.)

Brian Cashman

Omar Minaya

Kevin Towers

 

 

 

 

The only one there I'll give you is Theo Epstein, and possibly David Dombrowski, too.

Beane has never won anything, for all the talk, he gets.

 

Brian Cashman...lol. The guy has a 200 million dollar payroll to work with, and can't even build a team to even be close to successful come playoff time. That team is in disarray, as they have 2 rookies on their staff, yet they have like 3 DH's on the roster. Cashman has built that team, horribly, and he's never won a thing, despite having a nice payroll to work with.

 

Minaya...what has he done? Highest payroll in the NL, and the Mets missed the playoffs last year. He trades an ace in Brian Bannister, and gets Ambiorix Burgos. His next mistake will be trading Lastings Milledge. He's now left with no farm system, after Fernando Martinez.

 

 

 

Admin Beinfest has never worked with a payroll that high. The one time his payroll was worthy of acceptance, he got Pudge Rodriguez, and traded for Jeff Conine and Ugueth Urbina at the trade deadline. That team won a championship.

 

And for the Jorge Julio's of the world, there's these trades:

-Antonio Alfonseca and Matt Clement to the Cubs. We received a player to be named later...his name was Dontrelle Willis.

-Juan Pierre to the Cubs for Sergio Mitre, Ricky Nolasco, and Reynel Pinto was highway robbery.

-Chris Resop to the Angels for Kevin Gregg has ended up being highway robbery.

-Jason Vargas to the Mets for Matt Lindstrom and Henry Owens was highway robbery (and yet another mistake by Minaya).

 

He never gets cheated either, in trades. For example, trading Josh Beckett (yeah), but he receives Hanley Ramirez. Even trade.

 

The only dumb move by Beinfest was the Derrek Lee trade, when we got Hee Seop Choi.

 

Aside from that, he's been pretty much flawless in trades.

 

...imagine if he had a decent payroll to work with, consistently.

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You're placing too much emphasis on playoff success.

 

Cashman is always shortchanged because of the massive payroll. The truth is, the Yankees have assembled an arsenal of minor league talent over the years. Quite impressive for team that is disfavored in the draft and ostensibly depletes its own farm system in order to acquire veterans. Cashman has made his fair share of mistakes though. Arguably he is better at judging young talent.

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