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HEAT Offseason Thread

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Marion likely to bypass opt-out; his Heat future now in question

By Ira Winderman

 

South Florida Sun-Sentinel

 

12:14 AM EDT, June 23, 2008

 

Dan Fegan, agent for Heat forward Shawn Marion, said Sunday night it is "highly unlikely" that his client will opt out of his $17.8 million for next season.

 

Marion must finalize his decision by Tuesday at 6 p.m., but Fegan said unless there was a dramatic shift in talks with Heat President Pat Riley, "I don't think we're opting out."

 

While bypassing the opt-out would leave Marion under contract for 2008-09, on the final year of his contract, it also would cast doubts on the forward's presence with the Heat in the long run.

 

Marion had hoped to negotiate a long-term extension, in the $60 million range, a package that would have been easier to arrange under salary-cap rules had he opted out by Tuesday and then agreed to a new deal in the offseason, similar to the move made last summer by New Jersey Nets guard Vince Carter.

 

Now, any extension for Marion in the range the forward is seeking could cut severely into the Heat's cap space for the 2010 offseason, when players such as Heat guard Dwyane Wade, Cleveland Cavaliers forward LeBron James and Toronto Raptors forward Chris Bosh can become free agents. Riley has stressed that maintaining cap space for that offseason is his financial priority.

 

The most amicable resolution with Marion should he not opt out would be a trade, with Los Angeles Lakers forward Lamar Odom, Los Angeles Clippers forward Elton Brand and Utah Jazz forward Carlos Boozer among the options. Marion would be eligible to be dealt as soon as Tuesday's opt-out deadline passes.

 

Marion was acquired in February from the Phoenix Suns along with point guard Marcus Banks in exchange for center Shaquille O'Neal.

 

Asked if an amenable resolution could yet be reached, Fegan said, "There's just not enough time."

 

Indeed, the Heat appears to have its focus on Thursday's NBA Draft, with the latest twist, according to a source familiar with the situation, being Heat intrigue with a deal with Seattle.

 

In that permutation, the Heat would send its No. 2 selection plus center Mark Blount to the Sonics in exchange for the No. 4 selection and center Chris Wilcox. The Heat then would be in position to select Southern Cal guard O.J. Mayo or Arizona guard Jerryd Bayless at No. 4.

 

 

I would love Odom back with the Heat or having Boozer on our Roster

I agree. That trade with Seattle would be horrible. I would love a Shawn Marion for Carlos Boozer trade though. Then we could draft Beasley and trade Haslem for either Hinrich or Maurice Williams.

Rumor is Elton Brand is willing to opt of his contact only if he can come to miami! Heard it on ESPN

 

oh shiet! that'd be awesome!!! This feels like back when we acquired Shaq with all these rumors heating up. GIT R DUN RILEY!

#5, Mike Conley and Mike Miller for the #2 and DaQuen Cook. That is one rumor out there I wouldn't mind so much, although I still love Beasley.

having three PF's and now getting Beasley they are going to have to do something

having three PF's and now getting Beasley they are going to have to do something

 

Well, they can play Beasley or Marion at the 3. Haslem can play center in a small lineup or be the 1st big off the bench. So it's not as much of a logjam as some make it out to be, but the most likely scenerio is that Marion or Haslem will be dealt for PG or C help.

Any chance we sign Ben Gordon, and trade Marion for a center?.

 

Gordon

Wade

Beasley

Haslem

Brand

 

 

:drool

 

 

Who is the point guard with that lineup? I don't see one...

Any chance we sign Ben Gordon, and trade Marion for a center?.

 

Gordon

Wade

Beasley

Haslem

Brand

 

 

:drool

 

 

Who is the point guard with that lineup? I don't see one...

 

and gordon is restricted, chicago is not just gonna let him walk away

Any chance we sign Ben Gordon, and trade Marion for a center?.

 

Gordon

Wade

Beasley

Haslem

Brand

 

 

:drool

 

 

Who is the point guard with that lineup? I don't see one...

Gordon can play point guard.

Any chance we sign Ben Gordon, and trade Marion for a center?.

 

Gordon

Wade

Beasley

Haslem

Brand

 

 

:drool

 

 

WTF? How would the Heat have the money to have all those players?

With Marion signed, how do they have room for Brand? Is their cap room still that good?

 

Anyways...Chicago won't let Gordon go like that, so forget him...

Any chance we sign Ben Gordon, and trade Marion for a center?.

 

Gordon

Wade

Beasley

Haslem

Brand

 

 

:drool

 

 

Who is the point guard with that lineup? I don't see one...

Gordon can play point guard.

 

 

Gordon's a shooting guard.

Any chance we sign Ben Gordon, and trade Marion for a center?.

 

Gordon

Wade

Beasley

Haslem

Brand

 

 

:drool

 

 

Who is the point guard with that lineup? I don't see one...

Gordon can play point guard.

 

 

Gordon's a shooting guard.

Wow that is easy to say.He can play point also, and has played point.

Any chance we sign Ben Gordon, and trade Marion for a center?.

 

Gordon

Wade

Beasley

Haslem

Brand

 

 

:drool

 

 

Who is the point guard with that lineup? I don't see one...

Gordon can play point guard.

 

 

Gordon's a shooting guard.

Wow that is easy to say.He can play point also, and has played point.

 

 

Yeah...at UConn, maybe.

This is the NBA, and both Wade and Gordon would want the ball b/c they are shoot-first guards.

There is no PG on your roster.

Any chance we sign Ben Gordon, and trade Marion for a center?.

 

Gordon

Wade

Beasley

Haslem

Brand

 

 

:drool

 

 

Who is the point guard with that lineup? I don't see one...

Gordon can play point guard.

 

 

Gordon's a shooting guard.

Wow that is easy to say.He can play point also, and has played point.

 

 

Yeah...at UConn, maybe.

This is the NBA, and both Wade and Gordon would want the ball b/c they are shoot-first guards.

There is no PG on your roster.

Gordon is a SG/PG.He can play two positions.

Any chance we sign Ben Gordon, and trade Marion for a center?.

 

Gordon

Wade

Beasley

Haslem

Brand

 

 

:drool

 

 

Who is the point guard with that lineup? I don't see one...

Gordon can play point guard.

 

 

Gordon's a shooting guard.

Wow that is easy to say.He can play point also, and has played point.

 

 

Yeah...at UConn, maybe.

This is the NBA, and both Wade and Gordon would want the ball b/c they are shoot-first guards.

There is no PG on your roster.

Gordon is a SG/PG.He can play two positions.

 

The same could be said for Wade, but they are primarily SG's.

Any chance we sign Ben Gordon, and trade Marion for a center?.

 

Gordon

Wade

Beasley

Haslem

Brand

 

 

:drool

 

 

Who is the point guard with that lineup? I don't see one...

Gordon can play point guard.

 

 

Gordon's a shooting guard.

Wow that is easy to say.He can play point also, and has played point.

 

 

Yeah...at UConn, maybe.

This is the NBA, and both Wade and Gordon would want the ball b/c they are shoot-first guards.

There is no PG on your roster.

Gordon is a SG/PG.He can play two positions.

 

The same could be said for Wade, but they are primarily SG's.

Gordon would be slightly ahead of Wade in point guard skill.

Any chance we sign Ben Gordon, and trade Marion for a center?.

 

Gordon

Wade

Beasley

Haslem

Brand

 

 

:drool

 

 

Who is the point guard with that lineup? I don't see one...

Gordon can play point guard.

 

 

Gordon's a shooting guard.

Wow that is easy to say.He can play point also, and has played point.

 

 

Yeah...at UConn, maybe.

This is the NBA, and both Wade and Gordon would want the ball b/c they are shoot-first guards.

There is no PG on your roster.

Gordon is a SG/PG.He can play two positions.

 

The same could be said for Wade, but they are primarily SG's.

Gordon would be slightly ahead of Wade in point guard skill.

 

You are wrong.

Any chance we sign Ben Gordon, and trade Marion for a center?.

 

Gordon

Wade

Beasley

Haslem

Brand

 

 

:drool

 

 

Who is the point guard with that lineup? I don't see one...

Gordon can play point guard.

 

 

Gordon's a shooting guard.

Wow that is easy to say.He can play point also, and has played point.

 

 

Yeah...at UConn, maybe.

This is the NBA, and both Wade and Gordon would want the ball b/c they are shoot-first guards.

There is no PG on your roster.

Gordon is a SG/PG.He can play two positions.

 

The same could be said for Wade, but they are primarily SG's.

Gordon would be slightly ahead of Wade in point guard skill.

 

You are wrong.

I am right.

I like this lineup if we play small.

 

F- Marion

F- Haslem

F- Beasely

SG- Wade

PG- Chalmers

-------------------------------------------------

Or trade Marion for a C

 

C- Unknown

PF- Haslem

SF- Beasley

SG- Wade

PG- Chalmers

--------------------------------------------------

If we can make the right moves, then we could be a force next year.

you a PG in this league, not a swing PG/SG. We saw the celtics had with a guy like Rondo who was an assist machine. We also saw how good the Nets were when they had Kidd playing well. Same goes for Chauncy etc... you need those PG's not the swing guys. I think they need a lot of work still

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