December 14, 200817 yr I wonder what the thinking about Dan Uggla is according to the front office? Personally, I would like to see the Marlins give Uggla a long term contract and keep him around to play in the new stadium. 2B with the power Uggla has are very rare and it would be nice to see him and Ramirez to turn double plays for a long, long time in teal. With a new stadium on the way the Marlins need to quit playing the poor act and keep a few of the core players around and Uggla should be one of them. He's going to be 29 in March but I've seen no reason to think that he won't hit in the near future. If the Marlins decide to trade him (quite possible) then they better make darn sure they get what he's worth.....which is a lot.
December 14, 200817 yr It depends on how you define longterm. If they want to buy 2 years, which is what Texas did with Teixeira, no problem. Anything more is very bad payroll management because we would be paying a premium price for Uggla right now coming off his peak year, and it's doubtful he remains a high 800 OPS because of his contact issues. Dishing him a 5 year contract, which is what I think you mean, would be horrific. He is not a star like Hanley. And this is especially true with Coghlan and Bonifacio around. We have his rights for 3 years, not a big deal. He's not going anywhere if we want him. The only players the Marlins should be thinking about buy outs are Maybin, and all 5 starting pitchers. Whoever shows up next year, should get 5+ year contracts from that group. Everyone else, including Hermida even if he OPS's .900 next year, should not be bought out at this time.
December 14, 200817 yr I'm pretty sure everyone knows what I think about this. :thumbdown I wouldn't give Uggla a long-term contract.
December 14, 200817 yr Author It depends on how you define longterm. If they want to buy 2 years, which is what Texas did with Teixeira, no problem. Anything more is very bad payroll management because we would be paying a premium price for Uggla right now coming off his peak year, and it's doubtful he remains a high 800 OPS because of his contact issues. Dishing him a 5 year contract, which is what I think you mean, would be horrific. He is not a star like Hanley. And this is especially true with Coghlan and Bonifacio around. We have his rights for 3 years, not a big deal. He's not going anywhere if we want him. The only players the Marlins should be thinking about buy outs are Maybin, and all 5 starting pitchers. Whoever shows up next year, should get 5+ year contracts from that group. Everyone else, including Hermida even if he OPS's .900 next year, should not be bought out at this time. I don't think that the Marlins should buy out Maybin until they see what he can do with 500-600 AB's. I think the same can be said about the starting pitchers as they have all had injury concerns in the past except Volstad. I prefer to see at least some big time numbers being put up before money is spent. As for players that fit that mold on the Marlins only Ramirez and Uggla qualify.
December 14, 200817 yr It depends on how you define longterm. If they want to buy 2 years, which is what Texas did with Teixeira, no problem. Anything more is very bad payroll management because we would be paying a premium price for Uggla right now coming off his peak year, and it's doubtful he remains a high 800 OPS because of his contact issues. Dishing him a 5 year contract, which is what I think you mean, would be horrific. He is not a star like Hanley. And this is especially true with Coghlan and Bonifacio around. We have his rights for 3 years, not a big deal. He's not going anywhere if we want him. The only players the Marlins should be thinking about buy outs are Maybin, and all 5 starting pitchers. Whoever shows up next year, should get 5+ year contracts from that group. Everyone else, including Hermida even if he OPS's .900 next year, should not be bought out at this time. I don't think that the Marlins should buy out Maybin until they see what he can do with 500-600 AB's. I think the same can be said about the starting pitchers as they have all had injury concerns in the past except Volstad. I prefer to see at least some big time numbers being put up before money is spent. As for players that fit that mold on the Marlins only Ramirez and Uggla qualify. The only players the Marlins should be thinking about buy outs are Maybin, and all 5 starting pitchers. Whoever shows up next year, should get 5+ year contracts from that group. Everyone else, including Hermida even if he OPS's .900 next year, should not be bought out at this time. Come on now.
December 14, 200817 yr Author If the Marlins aren't going to sign him to a long term contract then they should trade him now. The Marlins could get a huge haul from a team like the Giants or Indians who would love to have a 2B like him.
December 14, 200817 yr If the Marlins aren't going to sign him to a long term contract then they should trade him now. The Marlins could get a huge haul from a team like the Giants or Indians who would love to have a 2B like him. I've said this for awhile now, too.
December 15, 200817 yr Author The problem with waiting to trade a player like Uggla is that the market will likely be limited in July. If you trade him now I can think of a lot of teams that would be interested in him. I happen to think Uggla is the 2nd best player on the Marlins without a doubt and I think they should keep him but it seems like not too many people here agree. Uggla has a career OPS of .831 which is pretty darn awesome for a 2B and he has averaged 105 runs scored, 30 homers and 90 RBIs per season which are outstanding numbers. Teams like the Giants and Indians might not be buyers in July so it makes sense to call them if the Marlins aren't going to make some kind of financial commitment to Uggla. Let's not kid ourselves because his numbers will get him a huge raise every year in arbitration which is usually when the Marlins jettison their talented players.
December 15, 200817 yr I'm pretty sure everyone knows what I think about this. :thumbdown I wouldn't give Uggla a long-term contract. I agree... Really no players should be getting them, but def. not Uggla. 2-3 year deal with options maybe would be a good idea.
December 15, 200817 yr Yeah, I remember reading some article breaking down trades from the past, like, decade or something. Teams always got more value in trades during the offseason. In the offseason, teams that have no business competing start to think "hey, maybe we have a shot" But when you're .400 in July, well, yeah...kinda different.
December 15, 200817 yr I'd take him for 1 years2 Million dollar contract with a 2nd year team option so if he plays solid like he can we bring him back again but if he dosen't then off he goes But thats just me What would you guys do?
December 15, 200817 yr I'd take him for 1 years2 Million dollar contract with a 2nd year team option so if he plays solid like he can we bring him back again but if he dosen't then off he goes But thats just me What would you guys do? He'd be the biggest moron in the world to sign for $2M.
December 15, 200817 yr I'd take him for 1 years2 Million dollar contract with a 2nd year team option so if he plays solid like he can we bring him back again but if he dosen't then off he goes But thats just me What would you guys do? He'd be the biggest moron in the world to sign for $2M. obviously, didn't you hear about the talks that Uggla would recieve 5-7 million dollars per year in arbitration?
December 15, 200817 yr I'd take him for 1 years2 Million dollar contract with a 2nd year team option so if he plays solid like he can we bring him back again but if he dosen't then off he goes But thats just me What would you guys do? He'd be the biggest moron in the world to sign for $2M. Yea but do we really have the money to afford anything more at most maybe 5 Mil? If he really wants to play here he would sign for anything over $1M But most likley he's gonna sign with the team that gives him big bucs
December 15, 200817 yr I'd take him for 1 years2 Million dollar contract with a 2nd year team option so if he plays solid like he can we bring him back again but if he dosen't then off he goes But thats just me What would you guys do? He'd be the biggest moron in the world to sign for $2M. Yea but do we really have the money to afford anything more at most maybe 5 Mil? If he really wants to play here he would sign for anything over $1M But most likley he's gonna sign with the team that gives him big bucs No, in Arbi. He'll make $5M this year.
December 15, 200817 yr I'd take him for 1 years2 Million dollar contract with a 2nd year team option so if he plays solid like he can we bring him back again but if he dosen't then off he goes But thats just me What would you guys do? He'd be the biggest moron in the world to sign for $2M. Yea but do we really have the money to afford anything more at most maybe 5 Mil? If he really wants to play here he would sign for anything over $1M But most likley he's gonna sign with the team that gives him big bucs No, in Arbi. He'll make $5M this year. Rab, your patience is impressive.
December 15, 200817 yr I'd take him for 1 years2 Million dollar contract with a 2nd year team option so if he plays solid like he can we bring him back again but if he dosen't then off he goes But thats just me What would you guys do? He'd be the biggest moron in the world to sign for $2M. Yea but do we really have the money to afford anything more at most maybe 5 Mil? If he really wants to play here he would sign for anything over $1M But most likley he's gonna sign with the team that gives him big bucs No, in Arbi. He'll make $5M this year. Rab, your patience is impressive. He's young and eager to learn. His mind is still moldable.
December 15, 200817 yr Yea but do we really have the money to afford anything more at most maybe 5 Mil? If he really wants to play here he would sign for anything over $1M But most likley he's gonna sign with the team that gives him big bucs No, in Arbi. He'll make $5M this year. Rab, your patience is impressive. He's young and eager to learn. His mind is still moldable. Yeah, and it's nice to see someone take that angle. It's a shame that some of the best debaters and knowledgeable minds across this forum have significant trouble in those areas, and I'm sure it rubs off on people.
December 15, 200817 yr Anything more is very bad payroll management because we would be paying a premium price for Uggla right now coming off his peak year Remember when 2006 was his peak year? :mischief
December 15, 200817 yr Rab, your patience is impressive. He's young and eager to learn. His mind is still moldable. And i thank you for understanding that and yea everyone says i have a bright future if i deside to get off my ass once in a while
December 15, 200817 yr And i thank you for understanding that and yea everyone says i have a bright future if i deside to get off my ass once in a while COME ON! Try to use some grammar, kid.
December 15, 200817 yr And i thank you for understanding that and yea everyone says i have a bright future if i deside to get off my ass once in a while Oh, bright future you shall have.
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