June 9, 200917 yr I love how you guys want to dump Hermida. Second highest OBP on the team. We need him. Maybe he isn't going to develop into a longterm option as his prospect status and 2007 season hinted at, but he's the best we got right now. He's not going to not-slug forever either. When bringing up Hermida's stats I love how you left out he has the 2nd lowest SLG and the 2nd lowest OPS on the team. We need to add as a fielder, what he costs us. The play sunday was not unusual, slow to the ball, rarely making the tough catch. I am willing to give Carroll the chance to hit on a regular basis to see what he can do, especially because I consider his defense worth more in terms of runs saved than the irregular clutch hit by Hermida.
June 9, 200917 yr I agree with you guys that BC probably isnt going to unseat Hermida, all I said is that he should be given an opportnuity to do so. But I think we can all agree that it is time for Loria to get off his cheap ass and allow our FO to trade for a good OF bat at some time in the near future. Even with the struggles we are only 4 games out of the wildcard. Other then the Phillies and Dodgers the rest of the NL is very weak and I dont think one team will run away with the wild card. Do you guys think if we are within 3-4 games in late July, we will trade for a good bat? and who is out there on teams you dont think will be contending that we could possibly acquire?
June 9, 200917 yr I agree with you guys that BC probably isnt going to unseat Hermida, all I said is that he should be given an opportnuity to do so. But I think we can all agree that it is time for Loria to get off his cheap ass and allow our FO to trade for a good OF bat at some time in the near future. Even with the struggles we are only 4 games out of the wildcard. Other then the Phillies and Dodgers the rest of the NL is very weak and I dont think one team will run away with the wild card. Do you guys think if we are within 3-4 games in late July, we will trade for a good bat? and who is out there on teams you dont think will be contending that we could possibly acquire? I've said before that I think all they're waiting for is to get the bond financing in place and the final sign-off by the county before they start spending to upgrade at a number of positions (assuming we can stay in contention of course). And not meant as sarcasm, if you/we know the team is only four games out of the wildcard you can bet the ranch that the front office and ownership is keenly aware as well. I have a hunch that the topic of discussion this summer may very well be comparing the 2009 Marlins to the 1997 team, one that was (mistakenly) referred to as having bought their way into the playoffs.
June 9, 200917 yr I love how you guys want to dump Hermida. Second highest OBP on the team. We need him. Maybe he isn't going to develop into a longterm option as his prospect status and 2007 season hinted at, but he's the best we got right now. He's not going to not-slug forever either. When bringing up Hermida's stats I love how you left out he has the 2nd lowest SLG and the 2nd lowest OPS on the team. OBP weighs more.I love how you still don't realize actual run production is basically OBP*2 + SLUG, even though we've gone over this countless times. He's out performing everyone except Hanley, Uggla, Cantu, and Baker. He's an important part of the team, even if he's having amazing slugging problems at the moment.
June 9, 200917 yr I wouldn't be adverse to giving Carroll a shot... so long as it means Coghlan moves to 3B, Ross to CF, Hermida to LF and BC to RF. Roll with that lineup for a while and see what happens.
June 9, 200917 yr I agree with you guys that BC probably isnt going to unseat Hermida, all I said is that he should be given an opportnuity to do so. But I think we can all agree that it is time for Loria to get off his cheap ass and allow our FO to trade for a good OF bat at some time in the near future. Even with the struggles we are only 4 games out of the wildcard. Other then the Phillies and Dodgers the rest of the NL is very weak and I dont think one team will run away with the wild card. Do you guys think if we are within 3-4 games in late July, we will trade for a good bat? and who is out there on teams you dont think will be contending that we could possibly acquire? I've said before that I think all they're waiting for is to get the bond financing in place and the final sign-off by the county before they start spending to upgrade at a number of positions (assuming we can stay in contention of course). And not meant as sarcasm, if you/we know the team is only four games out of the wildcard you can bet the ranch that the front office and ownership is keenly aware as well. I have a hunch that the topic of discussion this summer may very well be comparing the 2009 Marlins to the 1997 team, one that was (mistakenly) referred to as having bought their way into the playoffs. I feel it could be the exact opposite. As soon as the financing is secure, and assuming we stay a non-contender through the all star break, I see the selling of Uggla, Cantu, Ross/Hermida, Amezaga, Gload, Paulino, and maybe some from Nolasco, Anibal, Calero, and Pinto. This gets us prospects (where we desperately need another young SP like Volstad/West/Miller, a young 3B as we have nothing at the MLB level and Dominguez is struggling, and further RP depth), clears payroll to 'theoretically' devote to future contending years, and would give us greater incentive to give Johnson and Volstad 5 year deals following this season. Signing Johnson longterm has to be organizational priority # 1 right now. If they are a contender, I don't see them adding anything major. I'm thinking a Mark Teahen level OF or 3B at most. Which I guess is still substantial (he is a $3 million range player), but I don't see them going Holliday, etc., to really go for it.
June 9, 200917 yr I love how you guys want to dump Hermida. Second highest OBP on the team. We need him. Maybe he isn't going to develop into a longterm option as his prospect status and 2007 season hinted at, but he's the best we got right now. He's not going to not-slug forever either. When bringing up Hermida's stats I love how you left out he has the 2nd lowest SLG and the 2nd lowest OPS on the team. OBP weighs more.I love how you still don't realize actual run production is basically OBP*2 + SLUG, even though we've gone over this countless times. He's out performing everyone except Hanley, Uggla, Cantu, and Baker. He's an important part of the team, even if he's having amazing slugging problems at the moment. This is the formula you need to use: (.50 ? 1B) + (.72 ? 2B) + (1.04 ? 3B) + (1.44 ? HR) + (.34 ? (HP+TBB−IBB)) + (.25 ? IBB)+ (.18 ? SB) + (−.32 ? CS) + (−.090 ? (AB − H − K)) + (−.098 x K)+ (−.37 ? GIDP) + (.37 x SF) + (.04 ? SH)
June 9, 200917 yr I love how you guys want to dump Hermida. Second highest OBP on the team. We need him. Maybe he isn't going to develop into a longterm option as his prospect status and 2007 season hinted at, but he's the best we got right now. He's not going to not-slug forever either. When bringing up Hermida's stats I love how you left out he has the 2nd lowest SLG and the 2nd lowest OPS on the team. OBP weighs more.I love how you still don't realize actual run production is basically OBP*2 + SLUG, even though we've gone over this countless times. He's out performing everyone except Hanley, Uggla, Cantu, and Baker. He's an important part of the team, even if he's having amazing slugging problems at the moment. This is the formula you need to use: (.50 ? 1B) + (.72 ? 2B) + (1.04 ? 3B) + (1.44 ? HR) + (.34 ? (HP+TBB−IBB)) + (.25 ? IBB)+ (.18 ? SB) + (−.32 ? CS) + (−.090 ? (AB − H − K)) + (−.098 x K)+ (−.37 ? GIDP) + (.37 x SF) + (.04 ? SH)
June 9, 200917 yr And regardless, the fact of the matter is clearly Hermida is not performing where anyone wants him to, or expects. This does not take away from his excellent OBP though, and we have no one to replace him at this time. Upgrading the team positionally comes from first getting rid of Bonifacio and inserting Coghlan (or calling up Gaby) at 3B(1B/cantu shift), and second by hoping Carroll/Maybin pan out into .750+ OPS options, or, the team acquiring another OF for the third spot. THEN, comes replacing Cody or Hermida. Carroll is not going to replace Cody or Hermida anytime soon, despite getting a few hits last night. Comments suggesting that are insane. Great for Carroll to finally move forward, but all that should do is eat away at EB's starts by shifting Coghlan to the infield.
June 9, 200917 yr why do ppl want coghlan over bonifcio coghlan is onl hitting .225 Because Coghlan has an OBP of .352 and Boni has an OBP of .287. Coghlan is the one actually doing what a leadoff hitter is supposed to do.
June 9, 200917 yr yes i agree i would like to see carroll in right and hermida in left with coghlan moving to 3rd. Boni needs to go to AAA and get his game right.
June 9, 200917 yr yes i agree i would like to see carroll in right and hermida in left with coghlan moving to 3rd. Boni needs to go to AAA and get his game right. Boni needs to replace Amezaga the day he (Fredo) gets traded. As far as starting in the big leagues...he's got no "game."
June 9, 200917 yr Author Yeah, sure. I won't disagree with that. Is there anyone who honestly believes that Hermida isn't more skilled than Carroll? Excluding people who wear tin foil hats and other such people who have shown a repeated limited baseball intelligence? Carroll should play over Bonifacio. Sure. He'll probably out OPS him at this point. You do have to hand it to Carroll, he's killed since 2007 in the minors, but he's shown even less than Hermida at the major league level. Does anyone think Carroll will ever come close to Hermida's .870 OPS in 07? If he plays every day, defenses real hard and puts up a .700 OPS he's miles ahead of Bonifacio. But to say he should start over Hermida is dumb. You know who Brett Carroll is, and I don't know why I didn't think of this earlier. Brett Carroll is Chris Aguila! What is wrong with you? Everything you spew is incorrect information. A) I never stated Brett Carroll was better than Hermida. Nor did I say he would outproduce him. Hermida had his chance and he's a 25% K batter. Give Carroll a chance now. B) Hermida has bombed this season. His ability to hit in the clutch, his slugging, ability to knock in runs have all been disappointments. These are facts. Think what you will about his OBP but Hermida would be traded for a "B" rated prospect right now. C)Carroll vs. Aguila is a horrible analogy. When did Aguila play great defense?
June 9, 200917 yr I love that you say Hermida should be benched for Carroll because he K's 25% of the time, even though Carroll has k'd 28% in the majors and K'd 22% in the minors (Hermida was 18%). See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil right?
June 9, 200917 yr Author I've seen a lot of Carroll in the bigs, and he can't even come close to making contact with decent breaking balls on the MLB level. Yes, but Hermida can not hit fastballs. Have you watched?
June 9, 200917 yr Author I love that you say Hermida should be benched for Carroll because he K's 25% of the time, even though Carroll has k'd 28% in the majors and K'd 22% in the minors (Hermida was 18%). See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil right? Carroll has K's 8 times in 37 ABs. He is probably a Top 10 defensive player in the NL in the OF. Yes, he is that good. Hermida has no skills in the Top 10 of anything.
June 9, 200917 yr I love that you say Hermida should be benched for Carroll because he K's 25% of the time, even though Carroll has k'd 28% in the majors and K'd 22% in the minors (Hermida was 18%). See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil right? Carroll has K's 8 times in 37 ABs. He is probably a Top 10 defensive player in the NL in the OF. Yes, he is that good. Hermida has no skills in the Top 10 of anything. He is 12th in walks though. Not hypothetically either, but actually 12th in walks.
June 9, 200917 yr The difference in Carroll's and Hermida's defense is worth probably about .100 OPS points and maybe a bit more than that.
June 9, 200917 yr Yeah, sure. I won't disagree with that. Is there anyone who honestly believes that Hermida isn't more skilled than Carroll? Excluding people who wear tin foil hats and other such people who have shown a repeated limited baseball intelligence? Carroll should play over Bonifacio. Sure. He'll probably out OPS him at this point. You do have to hand it to Carroll, he's killed since 2007 in the minors, but he's shown even less than Hermida at the major league level. Does anyone think Carroll will ever come close to Hermida's .870 OPS in 07? If he plays every day, defenses real hard and puts up a .700 OPS he's miles ahead of Bonifacio. But to say he should start over Hermida is dumb. You know who Brett Carroll is, and I don't know why I didn't think of this earlier. Brett Carroll is Chris Aguila! What is wrong with you? Everything you spew is incorrect information. A) I never stated Brett Carroll was better than Hermida. Nor did I say he would outproduce him. Hermida had his chance and he's a 25% K batter. Give Carroll a chance now. B) Hermida has bombed this season. His ability to hit in the clutch, his slugging, ability to knock in runs have all been disappointments. These are facts. Think what you will about his OBP but Hermida would be traded for a "B" rated prospect right now. C)Carroll vs. Aguila is a horrible analogy. When did Aguila play great defense? lolololololololollolol .267/.400/.467 with RISP .302/.394/.477 with men on, in general .310/.420/.500 in High Leverage Situations
June 9, 200917 yr Yeah, sure. I won't disagree with that. Is there anyone who honestly believes that Hermida isn't more skilled than Carroll? Excluding people who wear tin foil hats and other such people who have shown a repeated limited baseball intelligence? Carroll should play over Bonifacio. Sure. He'll probably out OPS him at this point. You do have to hand it to Carroll, he's killed since 2007 in the minors, but he's shown even less than Hermida at the major league level. Does anyone think Carroll will ever come close to Hermida's .870 OPS in 07? If he plays every day, defenses real hard and puts up a .700 OPS he's miles ahead of Bonifacio. But to say he should start over Hermida is dumb. You know who Brett Carroll is, and I don't know why I didn't think of this earlier. Brett Carroll is Chris Aguila! What is wrong with you? Everything you spew is incorrect information. A) I never stated Brett Carroll was better than Hermida. Nor did I say he would outproduce him. Hermida had his chance and he's a 25% K batter. Give Carroll a chance now. B) Hermida has bombed this season. His ability to hit in the clutch, his slugging, ability to knock in runs have all been disappointments. These are facts. Think what you will about his OBP but Hermida would be traded for a "B" rated prospect right now. C)Carroll vs. Aguila is a horrible analogy. When did Aguila play great defense? I remember Aguila playing some fine defense. But it wasn't as good as Carroll.
June 9, 200917 yr Yeah, sure. I won't disagree with that. Is there anyone who honestly believes that Hermida isn't more skilled than Carroll? Excluding people who wear tin foil hats and other such people who have shown a repeated limited baseball intelligence? Carroll should play over Bonifacio. Sure. He'll probably out OPS him at this point. You do have to hand it to Carroll, he's killed since 2007 in the minors, but he's shown even less than Hermida at the major league level. Does anyone think Carroll will ever come close to Hermida's .870 OPS in 07? If he plays every day, defenses real hard and puts up a .700 OPS he's miles ahead of Bonifacio. But to say he should start over Hermida is dumb. You know who Brett Carroll is, and I don't know why I didn't think of this earlier. Brett Carroll is Chris Aguila! What is wrong with you? Everything you spew is incorrect information. A) I never stated Brett Carroll was better than Hermida. Nor did I say he would outproduce him. Hermida had his chance and he's a 25% K batter. Give Carroll a chance now. B) Hermida has bombed this season. His ability to hit in the clutch, his slugging, ability to knock in runs have all been disappointments. These are facts. Think what you will about his OBP but Hermida would be traded for a "B" rated prospect right now. C)Carroll vs. Aguila is a horrible analogy. When did Aguila play great defense? lolololololololollolol .267/.400/.467 with RISP .302/.394/.477 with men on, in general .310/.420/.500 in High Leverage Situations But but but...His RBI is too low!
June 9, 200917 yr Yeah, sure. I won't disagree with that. Is there anyone who honestly believes that Hermida isn't more skilled than Carroll? Excluding people who wear tin foil hats and other such people who have shown a repeated limited baseball intelligence? Carroll should play over Bonifacio. Sure. He'll probably out OPS him at this point. You do have to hand it to Carroll, he's killed since 2007 in the minors, but he's shown even less than Hermida at the major league level. Does anyone think Carroll will ever come close to Hermida's .870 OPS in 07? If he plays every day, defenses real hard and puts up a .700 OPS he's miles ahead of Bonifacio. But to say he should start over Hermida is dumb. You know who Brett Carroll is, and I don't know why I didn't think of this earlier. Brett Carroll is Chris Aguila! What is wrong with you? Everything you spew is incorrect information. A) I never stated Brett Carroll was better than Hermida. Nor did I say he would outproduce him. Hermida had his chance and he's a 25% K batter. Give Carroll a chance now. B) Hermida has bombed this season. His ability to hit in the clutch, his slugging, ability to knock in runs have all been disappointments. These are facts. Think what you will about his OBP but Hermida would be traded for a "B" rated prospect right now. C)Carroll vs. Aguila is a horrible analogy. When did Aguila play great defense? I remember Aguila playing some fine defense. But it wasn't as good as Carroll. Yeah, Aguila was a fine defensive player, in 2006 he was +6 in RF in only 135.1 innings. He of course didn't have half the arm that Carroll had.
June 9, 200917 yr Yeah, sure. I won't disagree with that. Is there anyone who honestly believes that Hermida isn't more skilled than Carroll? Excluding people who wear tin foil hats and other such people who have shown a repeated limited baseball intelligence? Carroll should play over Bonifacio. Sure. He'll probably out OPS him at this point. You do have to hand it to Carroll, he's killed since 2007 in the minors, but he's shown even less than Hermida at the major league level. Does anyone think Carroll will ever come close to Hermida's .870 OPS in 07? If he plays every day, defenses real hard and puts up a .700 OPS he's miles ahead of Bonifacio. But to say he should start over Hermida is dumb. You know who Brett Carroll is, and I don't know why I didn't think of this earlier. Brett Carroll is Chris Aguila! What is wrong with you? Everything you spew is incorrect information. A) I never stated Brett Carroll was better than Hermida. Nor did I say he would outproduce him. Hermida had his chance and he's a 25% K batter. Give Carroll a chance now. B) Hermida has bombed this season. His ability to hit in the clutch, his slugging, ability to knock in runs have all been disappointments. These are facts. Think what you will about his OBP but Hermida would be traded for a "B" rated prospect right now. C)Carroll vs. Aguila is a horrible analogy. When did Aguila play great defense? lolololololololollolol .267/.400/.467 with RISP .302/.394/.477 with men on, in general .310/.420/.500 in High Leverage Situations But but but...His RBI is too low! He's not clutch enough to will guys on base for him
June 9, 200917 yr Author The love affair for Hermida continues....yawn. Let's watch another 0-4, 2 K game.
June 9, 200917 yr The love affair for Hermida continues....yawn. Let's watch another 0-4, 2 K game. Wait, what happened to your facts?
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