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"The Mariners asked Florida about outfielder Jeremy Hermida, a major league source said, but it doesn't appear the talks advanced very far. Hermida would provide a left-handed power threat at low cost (roughly $1.125 million between now and the end of the regular season), but his trade value isn't what it once was. Hermida's slugging percentage has declined since 2007, and the Marlins are now starting Brett Carroll regularly against left-handers."

 

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/mlb/marlins/rumors.html

Well there is at least some interest from someone, so we know he can probably be dealt. I wonder what we were asking for in return. Either way, I bet he's dealt this year.

Left handed power threat.................haaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

Trading him for bullpen help would be great, I just don't think there is anyone stupid enough to trade a good back end reliever for him

All of the Hermida fans....where are they now? Hermida will end up as a #4 major league OFer.

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Left handed power threat.................haaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

Trading him for bullpen help would be great, I just don't think there is anyone stupid enough to trade a good back end reliever for him

 

 

 

You do understand that the signing of guys like Ayala and Donolly (sp?) with guys like Lindstrom, Calero, etc... due to come back very soon, indicates that we aren't trading for any bullpen help, correct??

 

What these kind of trade offers indicate that we are either trading to help build our minor league pitching depth or to add a good veteran bat off the bench. There really aren't any starting players on the Mariners that seem the Marlins would need, so it does seem this would be purely for minor league depth.

All of the Hermida fans....where are they now? Hermida will end up as a #4 major league OFer.

 

 

right here.

 

He's still got an .800 ops against rhp. He's still valuable tothis team in a platoon role.

 

He's also 25.

All of the Hermida fans....where are they now? Hermida will end up as a #4 major league OFer.

 

 

except, if anything, this would show the exact opposite since another team is willing to trade for him and see what he can do.

 

Hermida is an excellent buy low candidate for any team right now with Maybin doing well in AAA and our patience obviously growing thin with him.

 

Since the start of June he's back to his excellent BB/K after a poor may (0.75 since june 1, 0.62 on the season), he's stuck out just 16% of the time since June 1, showing that he's still seeing the ball fine.

 

So he's either just not squaring the ball up or he's getting "unlucky." I don't know where to find montly splits on ld rate but he still has a good LD rate on the season (19%) so seems he's still squaring the ball up. And I don't really remember myself if he's been hitting the ball hard enough or not. You hate to use the word "unlucky" but I don't know what other word to use.

 

His lack of power is still very concerning though.

All of the Hermida fans....where are they now? Hermida will end up as a #4 major league OFer.

 

 

right here.

 

He's still got an .800 ops against rhp. He's still valuable tothis team in a platoon role.

 

He's also 25.

 

 

Sorry, I'm not buying it. People used to say he's ONLY 23. Now, he's 25. He's not good at defense and can't drive in runs for a corner OFer. Fantasic, he walks alot. It doesn't make up for his massive amount of K's or his inability to drive in runs.

 

I think scouts know a little more than some of these Hermida lovers which is why he's only worth a middle reliever.

All of the Hermida fans....where are they now? Hermida will end up as a #4 major league OFer.

 

 

right here.

 

He's still got an .800 ops against rhp. He's still valuable tothis team in a platoon role.

 

He's also 25.

 

 

Futhermore, the Marlins don't pay people 1.5 million to be in a platoon role with AVERAGE numbers at best. We have enough talent in the minors to find someone to put up his numbers.

All of the Hermida fans....where are they now? Hermida will end up as a #4 major league OFer.

 

 

except, if anything, this would show the exact opposite since another team is willing to trade for him and see what he can do.

 

Hermida is an excellent buy low candidate for any team right now with Maybin doing well in AAA and our patience obviously growing thin with him.

 

Since the start of June he's back to his excellent BB/K after a poor may (0.75 since june 1, 0.62 on the season), he's stuck out just 16% of the time since June 1, showing that he's still seeing the ball fine.

 

So he's either just not squaring the ball up or he's getting "unlucky." I don't know where to find montly splits on ld rate but he still has a good LD rate on the season (19%) so seems he's still squaring the ball up. And I don't really remember myself if he's been hitting the ball hard enough or not. You hate to use the word "unlucky" but I don't know what other word to use.

 

His lack of power is still very concerning though.

 

 

Dude are you serious?

 

He hit .227 in June. That's horrible.

Sorry, I'm not buying it. People used to say he's ONLY 23. Now, he's [ONLY] 25...

 

 

So true. lolol

 

Hermida isn't a bad ballplayer but he is underperforming his contract and unless things change dramatically he'll never do so in 2010. For many teams that is the not the issue it is here and another team may have the luxury of either platooning him and/or breaking down his plate approach and do some on the job training with the guy while the Marlins in a playoff hunt, don't have that time. Since the FO likes getting pitching back in every trade, or that's their avowed goal, Hermida will probably fetch a front line pitching prospect who come September can contribute, and then be ready in 2010.

See when judging Hermida, he always seems timid and looking to draw walks instead of becoming a slugger. When the count is at 3-2, he is just a .135 hitter this year. That's horrible knowing a pitcher must throw a strike.

 

Even for a 2-2 count, he is just a .116 hitter!!!!!

 

 

What does that show you? He doesn't want to hit. He wants to walk.

 

 

Even ESPN knows we have better options in the minors....

 

"My job isn't to make the lineup," Hermida said. "My job is to go out there and play when I'm in it and try to help this team win. I talked to him a little about it. It's tough when you struggle a little bit, and then have to sit a little bit. (I want to) do what's best for the team, and I'm all for that. It's not that I'm selfish or anything." Entering Tuesday's game, Hermida has just two hits in his last 30 at-bats. He'll need to shake out of his current slump in order to save off some of the Marlins' younger options later this season.

Left handed power threat.................haaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

Trading him for bullpen help would be great, I just don't think there is anyone stupid enough to trade a good back end reliever for him

 

 

bullpen help is the last thing we need right now. with the signings the last week and people returning from injuries our pen will be fine. we need a 3rd baseman and branyan is probably off limits so i'm not really interested in anything else on their major league team.

Doesn't sound at all like a move will be made for a 3rd baseman, sadly.

Doesn't sound at all like a move will be made for a 3rd baseman, sadly.

 

 

yeah, it doesn't help that bonifacio has been playing pretty well the last couple weeks. but he'll start sucking sooner or later, hopefully before the deadline so we can pickup someone.

Making these low financial risk, high potential reward moves now may actually lay the groundwork for bigger moves closer to the trading deadline. They're hoping to find another Fox or Borowski or Gardner they can ride for the summer and has been there before.

 

I think Ayala is a bigger risk than Donnelly but you never know how these things play out until they're out there night after night.

The Mariners are trying to get someone to play LF that won't cost them much in return. They are playing Ryan Langerhans and Wladimir Balentien in LF and they can't contend for a playoff spot that way. They have enough pitching and a great defense but they can't hit except Russell Branyan and Ichiro. I wouldn't give Hermida away but I've never been a fan of his. He's worthless against lefty pitching and he's a awful outfielder defensively.

i think if we could get anything out of this possible trade it should be a young catching prospect! maybe one a lil more closer to getting to the bigs than skipworth. Just in case skipworth never really steps it up

Doesn't sound at all like a move will be made for a 3rd baseman, sadly.

 

 

yeah, it doesn't help that bonifacio has been playing pretty well the last couple weeks. but he'll start sucking sooner or later, hopefully before the deadline so we can pickup someone.

Not really, Bonifacio despite the sporadic game here or there has still been fairly awful.

Doesn't sound at all like a move will be made for a 3rd baseman, sadly.

 

 

yeah, it doesn't help that bonifacio has been playing pretty well the last couple weeks. but he'll start sucking sooner or later, hopefully before the deadline so we can pickup someone.

Not really, Bonifacio despite the sporadic game here or there has still been fairly awful.

 

Hitting around .300 in his last twenty-one games - sporadic? Jeez...

I disagree with you guys that think the acquisitions of ayala and Donnely indicate that we arent looking for any more pen help. Obvisouly we are going to have to see the progress of the two but you can always use more back end pen help (especially when you dont have a clear cut closer)

All of the Hermida fans....where are they now? Hermida will end up as a #4 major league OFer.

 

 

except, if anything, this would show the exact opposite since another team is willing to trade for him and see what he can do.

 

Hermida is an excellent buy low candidate for any team right now with Maybin doing well in AAA and our patience obviously growing thin with him.

 

Since the start of June he's back to his excellent BB/K after a poor may (0.75 since june 1, 0.62 on the season), he's stuck out just 16% of the time since June 1, showing that he's still seeing the ball fine.

 

So he's either just not squaring the ball up or he's getting "unlucky." I don't know where to find montly splits on ld rate but he still has a good LD rate on the season (19%) so seems he's still squaring the ball up. And I don't really remember myself if he's been hitting the ball hard enough or not. You hate to use the word "unlucky" but I don't know what other word to use.

 

His lack of power is still very concerning though.

 

 

Dude are you serious?

 

He hit .227 in June. That's horrible.

 

And? I never said the results weren't poor, I said the process wasn't poor.

If they offer Brandon Morrow or David Ardasma then do it.

If they offer Brandon Morrow or David Ardasma then do it.

 

No way we get Morrow.

 

I'd love Clement. He is 25 now, now I wonder what it would take to get him.

The Mariners are trying to stay in their playoff race. Don't expect to get much from them, especially for Hermida who is expendable to us.

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