We suck.

The middle part of the bullpen is horrendous. We need at least one more good arm there. This is a game we shouldn't have lost. I have a feeling Wood is going to be sent down after this game.

This is getting old. We had a 5-0 lead and still lose.

 

I feel like this team is where we were in 2003, just muddling along until we changed managers and added some top rookies who helped to stabilize the team.

The middle part of the bullpen is horrendous. We need at least one more good arm there. This is a game we shouldn't have lost. I have a feeling Wood is going to be sent down after this game.

 

 

I'm still waiting for a good explanation as to why Tank was warming up in the 7th inning and yet Fredi stuck with Wood when the Mets 1 lefty bat in the lineup was leading off the inning.

not only should wood be sent down but i do not criticizew fredi's moves if i dont agree with them at first and the second i saw tim wood on the mound for the 7th i knew what was coming.

 

this is an absolute f***ing joke.....its slow death with this team becuase they leave just enough time left in the game to make every inning turn your stomach. I personally would have goone with sosa for the 7th and we probably would have gotten out with a lead.

 

thought ronnies ball was gone off the bat but we should have been in that situation in the first place.

#Marlins prospect Mike Stanton will join team in Philadelphia on Tuesday.

 

Get the popcorn ready

Bullpen sucks, and leaving Wood out there for 2 innings was stupid... I hate when Fredi tries to ride crappy pitchers for 2 innings like that

When ronny's ball in the 7th didnt find a hole and we only scored 1 run it was so obvious that the mets were gonna come back.

 

not only should wood be sent down but i do not criticize fredi's moves if i dont agree with them at first and the second i saw tim wood on the mound for the 7th i knew what was coming.

 

this is an absolute f***ing joke.....its slow death with this team becuase they leave just enough time left in the game to make every inning turn your stomach. I personally would have gone with sosa for the 7th and we probably would have gotten out with a lead.

 

thought ronny's ball was gone off the bat but we should not have been in that situation in the first place.

 

now in danger of falling 6.5 games out and have to go into an off day having blown 2 of the 3 games.

This is getting old. We had a 5-0 lead and still lose.

 

I feel like this team is where we were in 2003, just muddling along until we changed managers and added some top rookies who helped to stabilize the team.

 

 

This team can't count on 2003 to happen over and over again. At some point this organization has to start really trying to win games from the start of the season. It was awesome that the 2003 team came back from ten under .500 to win it, but for some reason it seems like it lured this team's FO into believing that the obvious mistakes they made in constructing this roster can always be righted by working out a deadline deal, or a couple miracle developments that fix themselves without much Fo intervention.

This is getting old. We had a 5-0 lead and still lose.

 

I feel like this team is where we were in 2003, just muddling along until we changed managers and added some top rookies who helped to stabilize the team.

 

One week into June, 2 games below .500 ... Major changes are needed or we are gonna keep going one up / one below .500 all year... Better bullpen, bring up Stanton, and get rid of Fredi and Presley (I do not want our "hitting coach" tampering with Stanton)

I agree completely. However, it's clear that the organization has no desire to spend extra $$$ on getting a reliever with a proven track record, which is one of our biggest weaknesses. At least we can probably solve our hitting problem internally with Stanton and if necessary Morrison later on.

 

I'm guessing with Stanton coming up Maybin's gone?

There's one stat we must lead the league in, and that's number of innings in which a middle reliever has walked the lead off man. Surefire Maalox relief which hardly ever works. I have zero faith that any of our middle relief can get through an inning, after walking the leadoff man, without giving up at least one hit thereafter, so usually these innings just mushroom and destroy leads. Our starters need to go 7 or we're basically dead.

 

I love Stanton, here in Jax and have seen him at work, have several of his promotional Stanton 41 Jacksonville Sun jerseys. Really looking forward to seeing a Stanton, Ross, Coghlan outfield. But Mike doesn't do middle relief, and sad to say our lack of it, as I feared, is well into destroying our season. Shocked at how quickly the Hopper soured, I have zero faith that Loria will spend the $$$ to fix the pen. Still haunted they let Rhodes walk a few years ago over 2M. Oh well. we'll see what can Beinfast can do with playdough.

I agree that we need to be more proactive from the beginning of the season to field a team that can compete from start to finish. I am hoping we see that next year as we start looking ahead to opening the new stadium in 2012.

 

I think RVH has the chance to become a very good 7th inning guy. If he does perform well, I still think we're another bullpen arm short. We'll need to acquire someone else without a doubt.

This is getting old. We had a 5-0 lead and still lose.

 

I feel like this team is where we were in 2003, just muddling along until we changed managers and added some top rookies who helped to stabilize the team.

 

 

I agree, sir, this is getting old, but this feels more like 2005 to me. A team that could never win more then 3-4 games in a row that had good starting pitching and an offense that was just under performing. McKeon was moving JP all over the lineup to get him going, Lowell never got going and while that team had good defense and a better bullpen... my point remains that 2005 was a year when the Marlins NEVER got hot. Their only sweep of the season came in the very last series against a Braves team that had already won the division.

 

Yes, we're not out of it and if we went on a tear of winning 6 games in a row... we'd be right in the thick of things, but what if it just doesn't happen like in 2005? That team was flat, it needed a spark and so does this one. I hope Stanton provides the spark because it needs something bad.

Looking ahead, I think we need to now go 4-2 in Philly/Tampa which will be extremely difficult

I agree that we need to be more proactive from the beginning of the season to field a team that can compete from start to finish. I am hoping we see that next year as we start looking ahead to opening the new stadium in 2012.

I think RVH has the chance to become a very good 7th inning guy. If he does perform well, I still think we're another bullpen arm short. We'll need to acquire someone else without a doubt.

 

 

This. By mid-season '11 we should have most of the pieces for the 2012 season in place, and what we need we go out and get on fre agent market just prior to 2012 starting I hope Loria realizes that just having a new stadium is not gonna bring ppl in, there needs to be a team in place with hardly any flaws (not like this year where we all knew the pen would suck) that knows how to win (unselfish at-bats, moving runners to get a run) and has the killer instinct to put teams away..

fredi once again proves he is a horrible bullpen manager. He was the only one who didn't know that wood was going to blow up that 7th.

i Had to work night shift last night so i missed the game. By reading this, it sounds like Wood was the Main culprit in the loss but the recap i was reading was throwing it all on Hensley. Anybody care to clarify for me.

This game is right up there with the worst I have ever witnessed in terms of management.

fredi once again proves he is a horrible bullpen manager. He was the only one who didn't know that wood was going to blow up that 7th.

 

We have tomorrow off, why ride a piece of crap for two innings... it's not like we needed to conserve arms today

i Had to work night shift last night so i missed the game. By reading this, it sounds like Wood was the Main culprit in the loss but the recap i was reading was throwing it all on Hensley. Anybody care to clarify for me.

 

Wood gave up 5 runs in 1.2 Hensley gave up 1 run in the 8th.

This is getting old. We had a 5-0 lead and still lose.

 

I feel like this team is where we were in 2003, just muddling along until we changed managers and added some top rookies who helped to stabilize the team.

 

 

I agree, sir, this is getting old, but this feels more like 2005 to me. A team that could never win more then 3-4 games in a row that had good starting pitching and an offense that was just under performing. McKeon was moving JP all over the lineup to get him going, Lowell never got going and while that team had good defense and a better bullpen... my point remains that 2005 was a year when the Marlins NEVER got hot. Their only sweep of the season came in the very last series against a Braves team that had already won the division.

 

Yes, we're not out of it and if we went on a tear of winning 6 games in a row... we'd be right in the thick of things, but what if it just doesn't happen like in 2005? That team was flat, it needed a spark and so does this one. I hope Stanton provides the spark because it needs something bad.

 

Of course you remember what Loria's answer was to 2005 don't you ?

 

Lowest payroll ever. I have this gut feeling that the only thing exciting in 2012 will be the new stadium.

Looking ahead, I think we need to now go 4-2 in Philly/Tampa which will be extremely difficult

 

 

I can see 1-5 at best. Just look at the matchups. Maybe the Rays will still be struggling as they have of late, but its just our luck that they get their 2nd wind and beat the snot out of us.....for the 4th year in a row no less.

This. By mid-season '11 we should have most of the pieces for the 2012 season in place, and what we need we go out and get on fre agent market just prior to 2012 starting I hope Loria realizes that just having a new stadium is not gonna bring ppl in, there needs to be a team in place with hardly any flaws (not like this year where we all knew the pen would suck) that knows how to win (unselfish at-bats, moving runners to get a run) and has the killer instinct to put teams away..

 

 

But he is counting on that it looks like. Not moving Uggla this past off-season showed us that. If he does a fire-sale before July 31st and we see Uggla, Ross and Cantu gone, even a new stadium will not bring people in (well maybe for a few weeks but it will wear off soon like it did in Washington). Going with all minimum wage guys or all cheap azz free agents won't do the trick. I think he missed his window with Uggla to maximize the return, and that just shows me this front office is not clued in on how to build this team for 2012.

i don't understand why fredi took ricky out when he did... i trust ricky a whole hell of a lot more to get out of that jam in the 5th than wood... not too mention the fact that ricky was cruising up to that point and we had 2 more innings to go until we could give the ball to a reliever we can trust. But instead fredi decided to hand this game over to our team's biggest weakness - the middle-relief corps.

 

I wish Badenhop would get back to throwing the way he was for the past couple years in the Long / Middle-Relief role. Call him back up and put him back in that role.... please don't try using him as the "7th, or 8th inning guy" again. kthx