I really don't think it was as obvious that the ball was foul as Rich & Tommy make it sound. Sure, the ball landed in the dirt well after it passed third, but as Rich & Tommy pointed out, it's where the ball is when it passes third base, and it was actually pretty much at the wrong side of third at that point, though it was curving in rather strangely.

 

I don't see how blaming the umpire changes the fact that our closer blew another save throwing too many change-ups, just like he did earlier in the year.

 

Yeah, you're right, it was more fair than they made it sound.

 

By the way, if that's Fredi, the conversation with the umpire is this:

 

Fredi: "Are you sure that was a foul ball?"

Umpire: "Yes."

Fredi: "Alright, bud. Still on for lunch tomorrow?"

Umpire: "Yeah."

Fredi: "Alright, see you then, friend! *calmy walks back to dugout*"

Blame Leo for blowing it all you want, but he was f'n Houdini in getting out of it tied. I like how the rest of the D picked him up the last few batters.

 

 

That's what hurts the most: we got lucky in the 9th and the Phillies played horribly compared to the last two games. They gave us three. We were very very lucky to get out of that inning with a tie. After those mistakes by the Phillies, winning this game would've been satisfactory.

Blame Leo for blowing it all you want, but he was f'n Houdini in getting out of it tied. I like how the rest of the D picked him up the last few batters.

 

 

 

The rest of the D did nothing. Gaby Sanchez made a routine play, Leo made the play himself to pick off Werth, and Hayes made a routine throw to 2B on a pitchout (credit to Edwin, there).

 

This team defense better get fixed. Everyone constantly blames the pitching and bullpen all the time, but it's impossible to pitch when a pitcher constantly has to get 4-5 outs. It's horrible.

 

I can't even blame Leo Nunez. The defense made him throw about 20 more pitches last night in a non-save situation (the Uggla error), and tonight he gets the f***ing save, if our superstar SS makes a ROUTINE play.

I really don't think it was as obvious that the ball was foul as Rich & Tommy make it sound. Sure, the ball landed in the dirt well after it passed third, but as Rich & Tommy pointed out, it's where the ball is when it passes third base, and it was actually pretty much at the wrong side of third at that point, though it was curving in rather strangely.

 

I don't see how blaming the umpire changes the fact that our closer blew another save throwing too many change-ups, just like he did earlier in the year.

 

A ball that hit's the dirt fair twice before it reaches 3rd and fell 6 inches fair afterwards is never going to be foul over the bag. The physics just doesn't add up.

 

 

Also, not the error, not throwing a tonshit for pitches yesterday, but not having a killer instinct is what did Leo in.

And the worst thing about it all? Nobody's even gonna care.

 

Commissioner Selig, MLB executives, Players/Umpires Union, NONE of them will do anything about it. Just like the blown call to ruin the Perfect Game, they can't change the outcome of a game over a blown call. But what really sticks in my craw? They'll continue to ignore situations like these, and continue to drag their feet in expanding instant replay.

 

Things like these will never cease to happen until they expand instant replay. I bet ESPN will barely show it on TV because it's the Marlins, too.

 

The Marlins got robbed and it's gonna get swept under the rug, too.

 

MLB Network has devoted a ton of time to it tonight. Reynolds and Millar just deconstructed the whole thing as if it were the Zapruder film.

Which is why MLBN is the sh*t.

Straight from the rule book:

 

A FAIR BALL is a batted ball that settles on fair ground between home and first

base, or between home and third base, or that is on or over fair territory when bounding to

the outfield past first or third base, or that touches first, second or third base, or that first falls

on fair territory on or beyond first base or third base, or that, while on or over fair territory

touches the person of an umpire or player, or that, while over fair territory, passes out of the

playing field in flight.

 

Not that any of us need a lesson, but in the spirit of being thorough I think it's nice to post.

Well, at least Edwin made me laugh.

 

"I'm not angry, I'm just frustrated..."

 

That made no sense, thus making it pretty funny.

I really don't think it was as obvious that the ball was foul as Rich & Tommy make it sound. Sure, the ball landed in the dirt well after it passed third, but as Rich & Tommy pointed out, it's where the ball is when it passes third base, and it was actually pretty much at the wrong side of third at that point, though it was curving in rather strangely.

 

I don't see how blaming the umpire changes the fact that our closer blew another save throwing too many change-ups, just like he did earlier in the year.

 

A ball that hit's the dirt fair twice before it reaches 3rd and fell 6 inches fair afterwards is never going to be foul over the bag. The physics just doesn't add up.

 

 

Also, not the error, not throwing a tonshit for pitches yesterday, but not having a killer instinct is what did Leo in.

 

I know you're being facetious, but the big hits that caused the blown save tonight were all on the change-up, and if leo had more killer instinct he'd be blowing people away with the fastball and using the change-up to supplement, not using the change-up almost as his primary pitch. Throwing too many pitches last night didn't cause him to make that poor decision.

 

And my entire point in bringing up the BS is that if it wouldn't have happened, we don't even have a bottom of the 9th and there is no foul call.

Just promoed Rich will be on MLB Network next.

MLB Network will be talking to Rich Waltz after the break. :lol

 

So much for nobody caring. :mischief

I really don't think it was as obvious that the ball was foul as Rich & Tommy make it sound. Sure, the ball landed in the dirt well after it passed third, but as Rich & Tommy pointed out, it's where the ball is when it passes third base, and it was actually pretty much at the wrong side of third at that point, though it was curving in rather strangely.

 

I don't see how blaming the umpire changes the fact that our closer blew another save throwing too many change-ups, just like he did earlier in the year.

 

A ball that hit's the dirt fair twice before it reaches 3rd and fell 6 inches fair afterwards is never going to be foul over the bag. The physics just doesn't add up.

 

 

Also, not the error, not throwing a tonshit for pitches yesterday, but not having a killer instinct is what did Leo in.

 

I know you're being facetious, but the big hits that caused the blown save tonight were all on the change-up, and if leo had more killer instinct he'd be blowing people away with the fastball and using the change-up to supplement, not using the change-up almost as his primary pitch. Throwing too many pitches last night didn't cause him to make that poor decision.

 

 

His changeup is his best pitch. That has nothing to do with killer instinct, or whatever BS people use. I guess Carlos Marmol has no killer instinct either despite the amount of K's he has because he throws his slider more than his mid-90's fastball.

 

Not everyone is Mariano Rivera, blowing cutters past people on every pitch.

Rich Waltz is about to be interviewed on the phone by MLB Network right after the commercial.

To show how awesome MLBN is, they're bringing Rich on right now after the break.

Rich Waltz is going to be on MLB Network to discuss the Marlins getting robbed by an incompetent umpire.

 

 

 

Tell the world about the injustice the Marlins just faced!

To show how awesome MLBN is, they're bringing Rich on right now after the break.

 

 

Jinxed!

Rich Waltz is going to be on MLB Network to discuss the Marlins getting robbed by an incompetent umpire.

 

News of the century!

I wish Gainesville had MLB Network...

 

Any Gainesvillians have a solution?

I really don't think it was as obvious that the ball was foul as Rich & Tommy make it sound. Sure, the ball landed in the dirt well after it passed third, but as Rich & Tommy pointed out, it's where the ball is when it passes third base, and it was actually pretty much at the wrong side of third at that point, though it was curving in rather strangely.

 

I don't see how blaming the umpire changes the fact that our closer blew another save throwing too many change-ups, just like he did earlier in the year.

 

A ball that hit's the dirt fair twice before it reaches 3rd and fell 6 inches fair afterwards is never going to be foul over the bag. The physics just doesn't add up.

 

 

Also, not the error, not throwing a tonshit for pitches yesterday, but not having a killer instinct is what did Leo in.

 

I know you're being facetious, but the big hits that caused the blown save tonight were all on the change-up, and if leo had more killer instinct he'd be blowing people away with the fastball and using the change-up to supplement, not using the change-up almost as his primary pitch. Throwing too many pitches last night didn't cause him to make that poor decision.

 

 

His changeup is his best pitch. That has nothing to do with killer instinct, or whatever BS people use. I guess Carlos Marmol has no killer instinct either despite the amount of K's he has because he throws his slider more than his mid-90's fastball.

 

Not everyone is Mariano Rivera, blowing cutters past people on every pitch.

This is basically what I think. Not only is it his best pitch, it's one of the best changeups in the league. Issue is his control, especially when he gets tired like today, after yesterday's fiasco with the D. Oh, and today's fiasco with the D.

 

Though, I'm surprised Sirspud didn't challenge my physics talk.

And the worst thing about it all? Nobody's even gonna care.

Things like these will never cease to happen until they expand instant replay. I bet ESPN will barely show it on TV because it's the Marlins, too.

The Marlins got robbed and it's gonna get swept under the rug, too.

 

 

I know it's true. ESPN thinks we're just a running joke of an organization. I'm sick of it, I'm really really sick of it.

 

Well, we did go to an arbitration hearing with Cody Ross for 250k :$

Can't Wait til MLB has Robots become Umpires.

That'll be the day...

MLB Network will be talking to Rich Waltz after the break. :lol

 

So much for nobody caring. :mischief

 

 

Sounds like they're laughing at Rich and Tommy

I wish Gainesville had MLB Network...

 

Any Gainesvillians have a solution?

 

 

I'm in Gainesville with MLB Network. You can get it with Cox.

on the subject of MLB Network. If you have Comcast, how do you go about getting it? Does it come tied to a package or can you order it invidually? If you can order it individually, what's the monthly price?

I really don't think it was as obvious that the ball was foul as Rich & Tommy make it sound. Sure, the ball landed in the dirt well after it passed third, but as Rich & Tommy pointed out, it's where the ball is when it passes third base, and it was actually pretty much at the wrong side of third at that point, though it was curving in rather strangely.

 

I don't see how blaming the umpire changes the fact that our closer blew another save throwing too many change-ups, just like he did earlier in the year.

 

A ball that hit's the dirt fair twice before it reaches 3rd and fell 6 inches fair afterwards is never going to be foul over the bag. The physics just doesn't add up.

 

 

Also, not the error, not throwing a tonshit for pitches yesterday, but not having a killer instinct is what did Leo in.

 

I know you're being facetious, but the big hits that caused the blown save tonight were all on the change-up, and if leo had more killer instinct he'd be blowing people away with the fastball and using the change-up to supplement, not using the change-up almost as his primary pitch. Throwing too many pitches last night didn't cause him to make that poor decision.

 

 

His changeup is his best pitch. That has nothing to do with killer instinct, or whatever BS people use. I guess Carlos Marmol has no killer instinct either despite the amount of K's he has because he throws his slider more than his mid-90's fastball.

 

Not everyone is Mariano Rivera, blowing cutters past hitters on every pitch.

 

I've watched Carlos Marmol pitch a lot, and his slider is in an entirely different league than Leo's change-up. It may be the hardest pitch in the league to hit. Leo's change-up gets taken advantage of when it gets thrown too much, it ceases to be his best pitch when it isn't well-played off the fastball, while the only thing holding Marmol back is that he can't always find the strike zone.

Also I love the continuous improvement of young Giancarlo Cruz.

If this is the end of his adjustment and struggling period the MLB better look out next season!

Solid start by Volstad and we had the game won but again errors and bad luck held us down.

Now we really have to take 7 out of 9 from Atlanta the rest of the season and need to sweep them after taking at least 2 out of 3 from St. Louis.