January 31, 201114 yr Hmm... We had Ross Gload, Phillies got him. Phillies had Greg Dobbs, we got him. ... Was this basically an over-time trade?
January 31, 201114 yr I like this move. I think they should keep Baker off the roster, until he's ready to catch; Dobbs can be the lefty 1B/3B off the bench, who can occasionally play some corner outfield, if absolutely necessary. Also, if Dominguez can't make the team, it's possible that Dobbs makes the team, and there's a platoon situation at 3B with him and Helms. As far as I'm concerned, that sounds better to me than Emilio Bonifacio starting everyday.
January 31, 201114 yr i just looked at dobbs' splits... why is this good? he ain't getting on the roster.
January 31, 201114 yr i just looked at dobbs' splits... why is this good? he ain't getting on the roster. Initially I agree because we have to carry Hayes for defensive purposes. But I suspect when Baker is cleared to throw/catch, the Marlins will want a non-catcher lefty to bat off the bench. You have to imagine they want the bench to be this: Baker Helms Bonifacio Veteran Lefty/Dobbs/Lubanski/whoever Defensive Replacement Outfielder/Cousins/Wise/whoever Dobbs could be that guy. He has sucked for 2 years, but he was really awesome 07-08 and you never know. I have no problems with minor league deals. There is no risk. Only thing I'm worried about is having a 2B as the starting Center Fielder and a guy who should be going to AAA starting at 3B, with the added bonus of unnecessarily starting his arbitration clock.
January 31, 201114 yr Author I have a feeling that he can match Wes Helms in offense and defense, but not professionalism.
February 1, 201114 yr I have a feeling that he can match Wes Helms in offense and defense, but not professionalism. True dat! And yea, I like the Dobbs signing as its a low risk high reward minors deal on an experienced major league lefty pinch hitter. He might be past his best days but if he catches on again, he's ours!
February 1, 201114 yr i just looked at dobbs' splits... why is this good? he ain't getting on the roster. yes, and who goes off the 40-man if Dobbs goes on? does 6-46 make you want to give up on a younger guy on the 40-man? I think they will have Baker (already on 40-man) fill that role. If, when he's healthy enough to catch, Hayes goes down and another lefty hitter (Cousins) comes up.
February 1, 201114 yr i just looked at dobbs' splits... why is this good? he ain't getting on the roster. yes, and who goes off the 40-man if Dobbs goes on? does 6-46 make you want to give up on a younger guy on the 40-man? I think they will have Baker (already on 40-man) fill that role. If, when he's healthy enough to catch, Hayes goes down and another lefty hitter (Cousins) comes up. Not to be argumentative, but the following guys are currently on the 40 man roster and really offer little at this time. Chris Hatcher (converted to pitcher) Adalberto Mendez (AAAA type) Brad Davis (3rd catcher at best) And the next 7 (in no order of ranking), I all like in their own special way, but probably not losing much with a DFA if somehow we make 3+ roster moves Steve Cishek Arquimedes Caminero Bryan Petersen Omar Poveda Sandy Rosario Evan Reed Dustin Richardson Point is, we have plenty of space on the 40 man if the organization promotes Dominguez, adds Dobbs, and let's say adds another veteran OF and keeps Cousins in AAA for the time being. We can lose some of this (if they'd even be claimed) if it improves the MLB club right now.
February 1, 201114 yr i just looked at dobbs' splits... why is this good? he ain't getting on the roster. yes, and who goes off the 40-man if Dobbs goes on? does 6-46 make you want to give up on a younger guy on the 40-man? I think they will have Baker (already on 40-man) fill that role. If, when he's healthy enough to catch, Hayes goes down and another lefty hitter (Cousins) comes up. Not to be argumentative, but the following guys are currently on the 40 man roster and really offer little at this time..... Point is, we have plenty of space on the 40 man if the organization promotes Dominguez, adds Dobbs, and let's say adds another veteran OF and keeps Cousins in AAA for the time being. We can lose some of this (if they'd even be claimed) if it improves the MLB club right now. What's with this gone-soft crap? I miss good ole Lou and his n00b-crushing edginess.
February 1, 201114 yr i just looked at dobbs' splits... why is this good? he ain't getting on the roster. Initially I agree because we have to carry Hayes for defensive purposes. But I suspect when Baker is cleared to throw/catch, the Marlins will want a non-catcher lefty to bat off the bench. You have to imagine they want the bench to be this: Baker Helms Bonifacio Veteran Lefty/Dobbs/Lubanski/whoever Defensive Replacement Outfielder/Cousins/Wise/whoever Dobbs could be that guy. He has sucked for 2 years, but he was really awesome 07-08 and you never know. I have no problems with minor league deals. There is no risk. Only thing I'm worried about is having a 2B as the starting Center Fielder and a guy who should be going to AAA starting at 3B, with the added bonus of unnecessarily starting his arbitration clock. If Hayes and/or Davis show in ST that they have improved with their bat, then I guess it would depend on what the team wants as a back up catcher as to who MIGHT be offered in trade if other positions aren't working out in ST. Do they want to continue with this defense first frame of mind, or do they want a lefty as the back up. Kinda hard to read their thinking right now. But the signing is good because it leaves a Plan B and a Plan C if things aren't going so smoothly during ST. And it looks more and more like a Plan C might just be a fairly big trade coming with a week or so to go before Opening Day if it is apparent it is needed. Of course all this is null and void if Cogs is working out in CF and Matt is working out at 3B in ST.
February 1, 201114 yr I like this move. I think they should keep Baker off the roster, until he's ready to catch; Dobbs can be the lefty 1B/3B off the bench, who can occasionally play some corner outfield, if absolutely necessary. Also, if Dominguez can't make the team, it's possible that Dobbs makes the team, and there's a platoon situation at 3B with him and Helms. As far as I'm concerned, that sounds better to me than Emilio Bonifacio starting everyday. I don't think you can have Dobbs at 3B on a regular or semi-regular basis. He's a horrible out there.
February 1, 201114 yr If there's problems at 3B, I think the Marlins will be glad to have Dobbs. That way, there will be a fight for the position (hopefully).
February 2, 201114 yr I like this move. I think they should keep Baker off the roster, until he's ready to catch; Dobbs can be the lefty 1B/3B off the bench, who can occasionally play some corner outfield, if absolutely necessary. Also, if Dominguez can't make the team, it's possible that Dobbs makes the team, and there's a platoon situation at 3B with him and Helms. As far as I'm concerned, that sounds better to me than Emilio Bonifacio starting everyday. I don't think you can have Dobbs at 3B on a regular or semi-regular basis. He's a horrible out there. In limited opportunities he's a -4.7/150 inning by UZR. That's not horrible. It's not good, but it's better than either Helms or Bonifacio.
February 2, 201114 yr I like this move. I think they should keep Baker off the roster, until he's ready to catch; Dobbs can be the lefty 1B/3B off the bench, who can occasionally play some corner outfield, if absolutely necessary. Also, if Dominguez can't make the team, it's possible that Dobbs makes the team, and there's a platoon situation at 3B with him and Helms. As far as I'm concerned, that sounds better to me than Emilio Bonifacio starting everyday. I don't think you can have Dobbs at 3B on a regular or semi-regular basis. He's a horrible out there. In limited opportunities he's a -4.7/150 inning by UZR. That's not horrible. It's not good, but it's better than either Helms or Bonifacio. Yeah, this. After Dominguez, I think a Dobbs/Helms platoon is the best alternative, at this point.
February 2, 201114 yr It'll be nice when we can put 8 veterans or high-upside + reasonably ready kids out there every day, instead of the Bonifacio/Helms of the world at 1 or 2 positions.
February 2, 201114 yr I like this move. I think they should keep Baker off the roster, until he's ready to catch; Dobbs can be the lefty 1B/3B off the bench, who can occasionally play some corner outfield, if absolutely necessary. Also, if Dominguez can't make the team, it's possible that Dobbs makes the team, and there's a platoon situation at 3B with him and Helms. As far as I'm concerned, that sounds better to me than Emilio Bonifacio starting everyday. I don't think you can have Dobbs at 3B on a regular or semi-regular basis. He's a horrible out there. In limited opportunities he's a -4.7/150 inning by UZR. That's not horrible. It's not good, but it's better than either Helms or Bonifacio. Baseball-reference has him a -11 or -21 depending on of their stats you use. That's "good" enough to compete for league worst 3B.
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