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How about some love for the bullpen? I was surprised to learn they lead the ENTIRE league in ERA and by a pretty good margin. They have really won some games for us due to some pretty bad starting pitching (besides JJ of course). What a great turnaround considering how awful our bullpen was last year.

 

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I said it in the game thread, but Mike Dunn was worth the Uggla trade alone.

 

 

 

I like Dunn, but this is absolutely not true, over the course of a full season.

 

Maybe, maybe not. But I'm loving what I'm seeing so far. I know Infante will come around too.

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RK TEAM Inning Pitched per Game

1 Colorado 3.84

2 Kansas City 3.78

3 NY Yankees 3.76

4 NY Mets 3.60

5 Toronto 3.53

6 San Diego 3.48

7 San Francisco 3.44

8 Pittsburgh 3.43

9 Florida 3.40

10 LA Angels 3.40

11 Cincinnati 3.40

12 Arizona 3.36

13 Baltimore 3.33

14 Philadelphia 3.28

15 Washington 3.24

16 Milwaukee 3.11

17 Boston 3.07

18 St. Louis 3.04

19 LA Dodgers 3.02

20 Chicago Cubs 2.94

21 Chicago Sox 2.92

22 Houston 2.92

23 Seattle 2.91

24 Detroit 2.81

25 Minnesota 2.79

26 Oakland 2.78

27 Atlanta 2.76

28 Cleveland 2.73

29 Tampa Bay 2.50

30 Texas 2.35

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I said it in the game thread, but Mike Dunn was worth the Uggla trade alone.

 

 

 

I like Dunn, but this is absolutely not true, over the course of a full season.

 

Maybe, maybe not. But I'm loving what I'm seeing so far. I know Infante will come around too.

 

I mean, Mike Dunn is not putting up 3-4 WARs anytime soon, so yeah. But he's sick.

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I think gizmo's point was more that our bullpen was awful last year, and our offense will be just fine even without Uggla. So, the trade off of the offense that Uggla gave us was well worth getting the improved bullpen Dunn is giving us in return.

 

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I said it in the game thread, but Mike Dunn was worth the Uggla trade alone.

 

 

 

I like Dunn, but this is absolutely not true, over the course of a full season.

 

Maybe, maybe not. But I'm loving what I'm seeing so far. I know Infante will come around too.

 

 

Nothing against Dunn, it's just that it's almost impossible for a 50-65 inning (70, tops) reliever to be as valuable as Uggla's consistent production over the years.

However, a very good Mike Dunn + a better hitting Infante / the difference in defense at 2B between Uggla and Infante can certainly make the deal seem fair, in terms of overall value.

 

Either way, as I and a couple of others said at the time of the trade, Dunn was the most significant piece of the deal. I, personally, wanted someone with more upside than Infante, who might just be a nice one year rental, when it's all said and done.

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RK TEAM Inning Pitched per Game

1 Colorado 3.84

2 Kansas City 3.78

3 NY Yankees 3.76

4 NY Mets 3.60

5 Toronto 3.53

6 San Diego 3.48

7 San Francisco 3.44

8 Pittsburgh 3.43

9 Florida 3.40

10 LA Angels 3.40

11 Cincinnati 3.40

12 Arizona 3.36

13 Baltimore 3.33

14 Philadelphia 3.28

15 Washington 3.24

16 Milwaukee 3.11

17 Boston 3.07

18 St. Louis 3.04

19 LA Dodgers 3.02

20 Chicago Cubs 2.94

21 Chicago Sox 2.92

22 Houston 2.92

23 Seattle 2.91

24 Detroit 2.81

25 Minnesota 2.79

26 Oakland 2.78

27 Atlanta 2.76

28 Cleveland 2.73

29 Tampa Bay 2.50

30 Texas 2.35

 

 

Thank God for Josh Johnson because we'd easily be tops on this list, were it not for his early excellence.

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RK TEAM Inning Pitched per Game

1 Colorado 3.84

2 Kansas City 3.78

3 NY Yankees 3.76

4 NY Mets 3.60

5 Toronto 3.53

6 San Diego 3.48

7 San Francisco 3.44

8 Pittsburgh 3.43

9 Florida 3.40

10 LA Angels 3.40

11 Cincinnati 3.40

12 Arizona 3.36

13 Baltimore 3.33

14 Philadelphia 3.28

15 Washington 3.24

16 Milwaukee 3.11

17 Boston 3.07

18 St. Louis 3.04

19 LA Dodgers 3.02

20 Chicago Cubs 2.94

21 Chicago Sox 2.92

22 Houston 2.92

23 Seattle 2.91

24 Detroit 2.81

25 Minnesota 2.79

26 Oakland 2.78

27 Atlanta 2.76

28 Cleveland 2.73

29 Tampa Bay 2.50

30 Texas 2.35

 

 

What's funny is that the #1 and #30 teams on that list each have one of the 3 best records in baseball (at least until they both lose tonight). And Philly is smack in the middle. And the 3 "worst teams" would all make the playoffs if the season ended today.

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I think gizmo's point was more that our bullpen was awful last year, and our offense will be just fine even without Uggla. So, the trade off of the offense that Uggla gave us was well worth getting the improved bullpen Dunn is giving us in return.

 

/makingashortexplanationlong

 

 

Yeah this too.

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I said it in the game thread, but Mike Dunn was worth the Uggla trade alone.

 

 

 

I like Dunn, but this is absolutely not true, over the course of a full season.

 

Maybe, maybe not. But I'm loving what I'm seeing so far. I know Infante will come around too.

 

 

Nothing against Dunn, it's just that it's almost impossible for a 50-65 inning (70, tops) reliever to be as valuable as Uggla's consistent production over the years.

However, a very good Mike Dunn + a better hitting Infante / the difference in defense at 2B between Uggla and Infante can certainly make the deal seem fair, in terms of overall value.

 

Either way, as I and a couple of others said at the time of the trade, Dunn was the most significant piece of the deal. I, personally, wanted someone with more upside than Infante, who might just be a nice one year rental, when it's all said and done.

 

TITCR. But, no semicolons; should I be worried?

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I said it in the game thread, but Mike Dunn was worth the Uggla trade alone.

 

 

 

I like Dunn, but this is absolutely not true, over the course of a full season.

 

Maybe, maybe not. But I'm loving what I'm seeing so far. I know Infante will come around too.

 

 

Nothing against Dunn, it's just that it's almost impossible for a 50-65 inning (70, tops) reliever to be as valuable as Uggla's consistent production over the years.

However, a very good Mike Dunn + a better hitting Infante / the difference in defense at 2B between Uggla and Infante can certainly make the deal seem fair, in terms of overall value.

 

Either way, as I and a couple of others said at the time of the trade, Dunn was the most significant piece of the deal. I, personally, wanted someone with more upside than Infante, who might just be a nice one year rental, when it's all said and done.

 

TITCR. But, no semicolons; should I be worried?

 

 

Always.

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