marlins4life16 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 How about some love for the bullpen? I was surprised to learn they lead the ENTIRE league in ERA and by a pretty good margin. They have really won some games for us due to some pretty bad starting pitching (besides JJ of course). What a great turnaround considering how awful our bullpen was last year. http://espn.go.com/m...ching/split/128 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Also #1 in WHIP and OPS against. Pretty dang impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I said it in the game thread, but Mike Dunn was worth the Uggla trade alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheU Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Im very happy with how good the 'pen has been this year... especially after how bad its been the past few years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dim Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 http://forums.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/92834-this-is-the-worst-bullpen-in-marlins-history/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 What a year can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I said it in the game thread, but Mike Dunn was worth the Uggla trade alone. I like Dunn, but this is absolutely not true, over the course of a full season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Only 1 guy with a WHIP above 1.24, and that's only because they left Choate in vs. some righties in mop-up duty. And Mike Dunn is friekin awesome, although he'd make me nervous as heck with a couple of men on base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I said it in the game thread, but Mike Dunn was worth the Uggla trade alone. I like Dunn, but this is absolutely not true, over the course of a full season. Maybe, maybe not. But I'm loving what I'm seeing so far. I know Infante will come around too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico1270 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 RK TEAM Inning Pitched per Game 1 Colorado 3.84 2 Kansas City 3.78 3 NY Yankees 3.76 4 NY Mets 3.60 5 Toronto 3.53 6 San Diego 3.48 7 San Francisco 3.44 8 Pittsburgh 3.43 9 Florida 3.40 10 LA Angels 3.40 11 Cincinnati 3.40 12 Arizona 3.36 13 Baltimore 3.33 14 Philadelphia 3.28 15 Washington 3.24 16 Milwaukee 3.11 17 Boston 3.07 18 St. Louis 3.04 19 LA Dodgers 3.02 20 Chicago Cubs 2.94 21 Chicago Sox 2.92 22 Houston 2.92 23 Seattle 2.91 24 Detroit 2.81 25 Minnesota 2.79 26 Oakland 2.78 27 Atlanta 2.76 28 Cleveland 2.73 29 Tampa Bay 2.50 30 Texas 2.35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I said it in the game thread, but Mike Dunn was worth the Uggla trade alone. I like Dunn, but this is absolutely not true, over the course of a full season. Maybe, maybe not. But I'm loving what I'm seeing so far. I know Infante will come around too. I mean, Mike Dunn is not putting up 3-4 WARs anytime soon, so yeah. But he's sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dim Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I think gizmo's point was more that our bullpen was awful last year, and our offense will be just fine even without Uggla. So, the trade off of the offense that Uggla gave us was well worth getting the improved bullpen Dunn is giving us in return. /makingashortexplanationlong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I said it in the game thread, but Mike Dunn was worth the Uggla trade alone. I like Dunn, but this is absolutely not true, over the course of a full season. Maybe, maybe not. But I'm loving what I'm seeing so far. I know Infante will come around too. Nothing against Dunn, it's just that it's almost impossible for a 50-65 inning (70, tops) reliever to be as valuable as Uggla's consistent production over the years. However, a very good Mike Dunn + a better hitting Infante / the difference in defense at 2B between Uggla and Infante can certainly make the deal seem fair, in terms of overall value. Either way, as I and a couple of others said at the time of the trade, Dunn was the most significant piece of the deal. I, personally, wanted someone with more upside than Infante, who might just be a nice one year rental, when it's all said and done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 RK TEAM Inning Pitched per Game 1 Colorado 3.84 2 Kansas City 3.78 3 NY Yankees 3.76 4 NY Mets 3.60 5 Toronto 3.53 6 San Diego 3.48 7 San Francisco 3.44 8 Pittsburgh 3.43 9 Florida 3.40 10 LA Angels 3.40 11 Cincinnati 3.40 12 Arizona 3.36 13 Baltimore 3.33 14 Philadelphia 3.28 15 Washington 3.24 16 Milwaukee 3.11 17 Boston 3.07 18 St. Louis 3.04 19 LA Dodgers 3.02 20 Chicago Cubs 2.94 21 Chicago Sox 2.92 22 Houston 2.92 23 Seattle 2.91 24 Detroit 2.81 25 Minnesota 2.79 26 Oakland 2.78 27 Atlanta 2.76 28 Cleveland 2.73 29 Tampa Bay 2.50 30 Texas 2.35 Thank God for Josh Johnson because we'd easily be tops on this list, were it not for his early excellence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 RK TEAM Inning Pitched per Game 1 Colorado 3.84 2 Kansas City 3.78 3 NY Yankees 3.76 4 NY Mets 3.60 5 Toronto 3.53 6 San Diego 3.48 7 San Francisco 3.44 8 Pittsburgh 3.43 9 Florida 3.40 10 LA Angels 3.40 11 Cincinnati 3.40 12 Arizona 3.36 13 Baltimore 3.33 14 Philadelphia 3.28 15 Washington 3.24 16 Milwaukee 3.11 17 Boston 3.07 18 St. Louis 3.04 19 LA Dodgers 3.02 20 Chicago Cubs 2.94 21 Chicago Sox 2.92 22 Houston 2.92 23 Seattle 2.91 24 Detroit 2.81 25 Minnesota 2.79 26 Oakland 2.78 27 Atlanta 2.76 28 Cleveland 2.73 29 Tampa Bay 2.50 30 Texas 2.35 What's funny is that the #1 and #30 teams on that list each have one of the 3 best records in baseball (at least until they both lose tonight). And Philly is smack in the middle. And the 3 "worst teams" would all make the playoffs if the season ended today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I think gizmo's point was more that our bullpen was awful last year, and our offense will be just fine even without Uggla. So, the trade off of the offense that Uggla gave us was well worth getting the improved bullpen Dunn is giving us in return. /makingashortexplanationlong Yeah this too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I said it in the game thread, but Mike Dunn was worth the Uggla trade alone. I like Dunn, but this is absolutely not true, over the course of a full season. Maybe, maybe not. But I'm loving what I'm seeing so far. I know Infante will come around too. Nothing against Dunn, it's just that it's almost impossible for a 50-65 inning (70, tops) reliever to be as valuable as Uggla's consistent production over the years. However, a very good Mike Dunn + a better hitting Infante / the difference in defense at 2B between Uggla and Infante can certainly make the deal seem fair, in terms of overall value. Either way, as I and a couple of others said at the time of the trade, Dunn was the most significant piece of the deal. I, personally, wanted someone with more upside than Infante, who might just be a nice one year rental, when it's all said and done. TITCR. But, no semicolons; should I be worried? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Can we just get a chat room? Or a hotel room? But mainly a chat room, yeah, a chat room. #AOLlulz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I said it in the game thread, but Mike Dunn was worth the Uggla trade alone. I like Dunn, but this is absolutely not true, over the course of a full season. Maybe, maybe not. But I'm loving what I'm seeing so far. I know Infante will come around too. Nothing against Dunn, it's just that it's almost impossible for a 50-65 inning (70, tops) reliever to be as valuable as Uggla's consistent production over the years. However, a very good Mike Dunn + a better hitting Infante / the difference in defense at 2B between Uggla and Infante can certainly make the deal seem fair, in terms of overall value. Either way, as I and a couple of others said at the time of the trade, Dunn was the most significant piece of the deal. I, personally, wanted someone with more upside than Infante, who might just be a nice one year rental, when it's all said and done. TITCR. But, no semicolons; should I be worried? Always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Can we just get a chat room? Or a hotel room? But mainly a chat room, yeah, a chat room. #AOLlulz A/S/L? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Can we just get a chat room? Or a hotel room? But mainly a chat room, yeah, a chat room. #AOLlulz A/S/L? 8.5/34DD/pre Am I doing it right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entendu Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Our BP is nasty :# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Beinfest Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 What's really nice to see is that our BP has 4 wins, top in the league too. Now, I know W-L is usually insignificant for a relief pitcher, but as a BP it says that they're holding on to games well when our offense rallies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Can we just get a chat room? Or a hotel room? But mainly a chat room, yeah, a chat room. #AOLlulz A/S/L? 8.5/34DD/pre Am I doing it right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undakai Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Can we just get a chat room? Or a hotel room? But mainly a chat room, yeah, a chat room. #AOLlulz A/S/L? 8.5/34DD/pre Am I doing it right? I only got the "s" (and...very nice ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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