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Marlins, Omar Infante Agree To Extension

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Mediocre offense? Such a harsh word. I think you're stuck in June. Surely he isn't a phenomenal batter but he's average in my books.

 

 

So what you're saying is that calling him average is harsh, but he's mediocre in your books?

 

:headscratch

 

 

Mediocre is usually used to describe something sub-par. Naturally you'll probably pull up the dictionary in response, which will have two definitions and you'll state your case.

 

In which case I will say that the word mediocre more often than not has a negative connotation to it. People never use the word mediocre to literally describe something in the average, but rather something under the average.

 

Other people being ignorant is not a good defense for one's self :)

This ensures that Bonifacio will be our starting centerfielder.

 

 

Bonifacio obviously deserves to have a big role next year, and there's no way that any of the other CF options deserve a spot over him. If we see Coghlan or Peterson trotted out opening day while Bonifacio sits the bench in a supersub role, I'll be mad.

I'm more for trading Gaby, Cogs, and Baker to bring in another speedster with a high OBP to play CF, moving Logan to 1B, and having Boni in LF.

 

This is assuming that the team has given up on Coghlan... does he need a great spring to win back the job?

This is similar to the Buck deal in that it’s too much money for a below average hitter but it’s not a lot of money so it’s not that big of a deal.. combined though that’s $10M for two below average hitters for their position in your lineup. I prefer Infante in the utility role.

Mediocre offense? Such a harsh word. I think you're stuck in June. Surely he isn't a phenomenal batter but he's average in my books.

 

 

So what you're saying is that calling him average is harsh, but he's mediocre in your books?

 

:headscratch

 

 

Mediocre is usually used to describe something sub-par. Naturally you'll probably pull up the dictionary in response, which will have two definitions and you'll state your case.

 

In which case I will say that the word mediocre more often than not has a negative connotation to it. People never use the word mediocre to literally describe something in the average, but rather something under the average.

 

Mediocre is average with a negative connotation. Average when you should be better, average because you settled for average rather than achieving. So-so and middling are used the same way. The mediocrity is in the Marlins settling for a hitter like Omar to fill one of the starting spots.

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This is similar to the Buck deal in that it’s too much money for a below average hitter but it’s not a lot of money so it’s not that big of a deal.. combined though that’s $10M for two below average hitters for their position in your lineup. I prefer Infante in the utility role.

 

But Infante is an average to above-average 2B overall.

 

And, this is not a league where you need to OPS .760 to be an average 2B, anymore.

The league average OPS+ for 2B over the past several seasons is 99 and he's at 90 right now. In determining his "overall" value I assume you're using defensive metrics that are not reliable.

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The league average OPS+ for 2B over the past several seasons is 99 and he's at 90 right now. In determining his "overall" value I assume you're using defensive metrics that are not reliable.

 

BR says he's +16 runs. Fangraphs says he's +8 runs. Most people's eyes seem to think he's an excellent fielder. He's above-average with the glove whether or not the metrics are perfect.

And he had a 111 OPS+ last year, and 100 in limited ABs the year before that. So, he's probably right around average with the bat, and above-average with the glove. Not sure why there is any disagreement about this.

BR’s Rdrs says he's a -1 run.. and supposedly Rdrs is better than Rtot which is the one that says he's +16 runs... the sabermetrics defensive stats are all over the place.

 

Any GM that pays big bucks based on Rtot or Rdrs or UZR is retarded.

BR’s Rdrs says he's a -1 run.. and supposedly Rdrs is better than Rtot which is the one that says he's +16 runs... the sabermetrics defensive stats are all over the place.

 

Any GM that pays big bucks based on Rtot or Rdrs or UZR is retarded.

 

 

How do you evaluate defense then? By observation? If it's by observation, Infante's pretty awesome.

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