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A.J. Burnett to the Pirates

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The Pirates and New York Yankees have agreed to a trade that would send right-handerA.J. Burnett to Pittsburgh and are awaiting approval from the commissioner's office Friday, sources said.

The Pirates will send right-handed reliever Diego Moreno and outfielder Exicardo Cayones to New York in return, sources said. Moreno, a 25-year-old from Venezuela, has split the past two seasons between the Class A and Double-A minor league teams. Cayones, who is 20, spent 2011 in Class A.

The approval of the commissioner's office is needed because of the money involved. The Pirates will pay $13 million of the $31.1 million remaining on Burnett's contract, sources said (Burnett is on a year-round contract and already has been paid $1.9 million in 2012).

As a Yankee the past three seasons, Burnett is 34-35 with a 4.79 ERA. He is 121-111 with a 4.10 ERA in 13 seasons with the Yankees, Blue Jays and Marlins.

As soon as the Burnett deal is done, the Yankees will begin the aggressive pursuit of a veteran designated hitter, sources said.

Sources said there is a good deal of sentiment within the Yankees organization to go afterRaul Ibanez -- who wants to play for the team -- to be their designated hitter against right-handers, partly because they believe he can give them some days of outfield play.

Although Johnny Damon and Hideki Matsui are also available, they are generally regarded as unplayable defensively, sources said.

- ESPN.com

 

He never did seem have a great deal of success with the Yankees. Not like he did earlier in his career with us and with Toronto.

He never did seem have a great deal of success with the Yankees. Not like he did earlier in his career with us and with Toronto.

 

 

Y'know there's an easier statement you can make...

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If the Pirates were known for making good decisions they might have actually made the playoffs once in the last 20 years.

If the Pirates were known for making good decisions they might have actually made the playoffs once in the last 20 years.

 

 

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He actually blocked a trade to the angels, knowing that he would probably end up with the pirates.....who does THAT?

Oh I see, it must be a severe phobia. Like the soccer player who wouldn't get on a plane to fly across the Atlantic. He actually screamed his way out the plane once. Anyways I think AJ will do well with the pirates.

Oh I see, it must be a severe phobia. Like the soccer player who wouldn't get on a plane to fly across the Atlantic. He actually screamed his way out the plane once. Anyways I think AJ will do well with the pirates.

 

He just might be their ace ... lol.

Well, him or Charlie Morton.

I think Bedard is their ace. he was an alright pitcher in the AL. the switch to the worst division in the NL should probably make him look like a great pitcher.

Bedard will probably fracture his gluteus maximus the first day of Spring Training.

He never did seem have a great deal of success with the Yankees. Not like he did earlier in his career with us and with Toronto.

 

 

He was a game under .500 with us, was said to be uncoachable and bad club house influence, had TJS, and was told to clean out his locker with about a week left in the season. When he was pitching you could tell if he was going to have a good game or not by watching his actions. If he started shaking off alot of the signs from his catcher, it was going to be a bad game. In those games he would be looking at the radar more than his coaches and catcher. He never really lived up to his true potential here because of his attitude. I think the basic "firing" of him here led to some maturity in Toronto.

 

I look forward to playing against him. And I would hope Trader Jack is in our dugout watching when he pitches.

I think it's a good trade for the bucs ... he's still a hard thrower with a lot of potential that could thrive in Pittsburgh and for 5-6 million a year, even as a 4th starter is not bad at all for them.

He never did seem have a great deal of success with the Yankees. Not like he did earlier in his career with us and with Toronto.

 

 

He was a game under .500 with us, was said to be uncoachable and bad club house influence, had TJS, and was told to clean out his locker with about a week left in the season. When he was pitching you could tell if he was going to have a good game or not by watching his actions. If he started shaking off alot of the signs from his catcher, it was going to be a bad game. In those games he would be looking at the radar more than his coaches and catcher. He never really lived up to his true potential here because of his attitude. I think the basic "firing" of him here led to some maturity in Toronto.

 

I look forward to playing against him. And I would hope Trader Jack is in our dugout watching when he pitches.

 

He had a 3.73 ERA in ~854 innings pitched with us, which is pretty solid.

Perhaps that was his true potential as he's never really been better elsewhere. He's an inconsistent pitcher because of his control issues and he's prone to the long ball.

 

Good to know you were scouting his body language, though...

I think it's a good trade for the bucs ... he's still a hard thrower with a lot of potential that could thrive in Pittsburgh and for 5-6 million a year, even as a 4th starter is not bad at all for them.

 

 

Not really. He'll probably put up some better #'s now that he's going from the AL East/Yankee Stadium to the NL Central/PNC Park, but he is what he is, basically.

 

You no longer have "a lot of potential" at the age of 35.

He never did seem have a great deal of success with the Yankees. Not like he did earlier in his career with us and with Toronto.

He was a game under .500 with us, was said to be uncoachable and bad club house influence, had TJS, and was told to clean out his locker with about a week left in the season. When he was pitching you could tell if he was going to have a good game or not by watching his actions. If he started shaking off alot of the signs from his catcher, it was going to be a bad game. In those games he would be looking at the radar more than his coaches and catcher. He never really lived up to his true potential here because of his attitude. I think the basic "firing" of him here led to some maturity in Toronto. I look forward to playing against him. And I would hope Trader Jack is in our dugout watching when he pitches. He had a 3.73 ERA in ~854 innings pitched with us, which is pretty solid. Perhaps that was his true potential as he's never really been better elsewhere. He's an inconsistent pitcher because of his control issues and he's prone to the long ball. Good to know you were scouting his body language, though...

Once again....Not entirely my thoughts. Just what was being said about him at the time by announcers and the coaching staff. And by those with enough common sense to see past stats and actually watch the games and more than just a glance now and then to watch a long ball and think that high profile guys/fan favs look just fine because their legs go all the way down to the ground.

He never did seem have a great deal of success with the Yankees. Not like he did earlier in his career with us and with Toronto.

He was a game under .500 with us, was said to be uncoachable and bad club house influence, had TJS, and was told to clean out his locker with about a week left in the season. When he was pitching you could tell if he was going to have a good game or not by watching his actions. If he started shaking off alot of the signs from his catcher, it was going to be a bad game. In those games he would be looking at the radar more than his coaches and catcher. He never really lived up to his true potential here because of his attitude. I think the basic "firing" of him here led to some maturity in Toronto. I look forward to playing against him. And I would hope Trader Jack is in our dugout watching when he pitches. He had a 3.73 ERA in ~854 innings pitched with us, which is pretty solid. Perhaps that was his true potential as he's never really been better elsewhere. He's an inconsistent pitcher because of his control issues and he's prone to the long ball. Good to know you were scouting his body language, though...

Once again....Not entirely my thoughts. Just what was being said about him at the time by announcers and the coaching staff. And by those with enough common sense to see past stats and actually watch the games and more than just a glance now and then to watch a long ball and think that high profile guys/fan favs look just fine because their legs go all the way down to the ground.

 

Ok, uh, whatever.

 

A.J. Burnett was never really a fan favorite, but I guess that's just what you call someone when it doesn't suit your argument.

 

My point is that you can't really say he didn't live up to his potential here. He basically pitched the same, if not better, here than he's pitched at his other stops. He's had years to improve and has proved that his potential was basically what he did here. His career has been that of a middle of the rotation arm who has inconsistencies with control and is prone to the long ball.

 

Raw stuff doesn't necessarily = this guy has to have more potential. He didn't underachieve here; he just is who he is. I think that's safe to say considering he's now 35 and hasn't really gotten better since his departure.

He never did seem have a great deal of success with the Yankees. Not like he did earlier in his career with us and with Toronto.

He was a game under .500 with us, was said to be uncoachable and bad club house influence, had TJS, and was told to clean out his locker with about a week left in the season. When he was pitching you could tell if he was going to have a good game or not by watching his actions. If he started shaking off alot of the signs from his catcher, it was going to be a bad game. In those games he would be looking at the radar more than his coaches and catcher. He never really lived up to his true potential here because of his attitude. I think the basic "firing" of him here led to some maturity in Toronto. I look forward to playing against him. And I would hope Trader Jack is in our dugout watching when he pitches. He had a 3.73 ERA in ~854 innings pitched with us, which is pretty solid. Perhaps that was his true potential as he's never really been better elsewhere. He's an inconsistent pitcher because of his control issues and he's prone to the long ball. Good to know you were scouting his body language, though...

Once again....Not entirely my thoughts. Just what was being said about him at the time by announcers and the coaching staff. And by those with enough common sense to see past stats and actually watch the games and more than just a glance now and then to watch a long ball and think that high profile guys/fan favs look just fine because their legs go all the way down to the ground.

 

Ok, uh, whatever.

 

A.J. Burnett was never really a fan favorite, but I guess that's just what you call someone when it doesn't suit your argument.

 

My point is that you can't really say he didn't live up to his potential here. He basically pitched the same, if not better, here than he's pitched at his other stops. He's had years to improve and has proved that his potential was basically what he did here. His career has been that of a middle of the rotation arm who has inconsistencies with control and is prone to the long ball.

 

Raw stuff doesn't necessarily = this guy has to have more potential. He didn't underachieve here; he just is who he is. I think that's safe to say considering he's now 35 and hasn't really gotten better since his departure.

AJ was a fan favorite here, he was also the ace of the staff. Beckett was one who was a disappointment up until 2003. It was so frustrating having miss games because of a blister. There was probably bragging rights with the radar gun readings because Penny and Beckett were accused of the same thing. I also doubt that he was uncoachable considering Arnsberg radically changed his delivery, and AJ followed him to Toronto.

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