November 14, 201213 yr Author According to Heyman, a source told him that the Marlins are financially "under water".
November 14, 201213 yr According to Heyman, a source told him that the Marlins are financially "under water". Damn
November 14, 201213 yr According to Heyman, a source told him that the Marlins are financially "under water". Wow. How did they manage that?
November 14, 201213 yr According to Heyman, a source told him that the Marlins are financially "under water". That bodes well for a Stanton contract. He might only get 10/190 now instead of 10/200.
November 14, 201213 yr In an offseason where my team is about to trade the 2012 Cy Young awared winner and one of most likeable players in the game, I can only read this and feel bad for you.
November 14, 201213 yr According to Heyman, a source told him that the Marlins are financially "under water". Damn Well if it's true then it's their own f*cking fault. There was no need to go spending like drunken sailors last season. Matter of fact it makes all of this look even more foolish. If they'd spent a little smarter and used some of the thinking that helped them be a competitive team on a budget perhaps we wouldn't be going through this mess. The damage this guy does is astounding.
November 14, 201213 yr Who the f*** in their right mind is gonna wanna come here? Jose Reyes thought he was gonna be living in Miami long-term and now he's stuck in Canada. He's not "stuck" anywhere. Almost nobody in MLB makes any long-term assumption about where they will play, turnover is the norm. They live where they want to live the other 6 months of each year. If Reyes wants to live in Miami in the off-season, he can. Any ballplayer can afford to live anywhere he wants in the off-season. Why would anyone not want to come here? You get paid X dollars to perform. Period. Just like any other franchise. You want to move here and live here? Fine, you can do that. You get to play half of your games in the newest and one of the finest stadiums in all of baseball. Or, you could sign a contract with the Cubs or Red Sox and play in one of the two crappiest stadiums in all of baseball, each about 100 years old, rats and all. The whole idea that no FA would want to come here is totally ridiculous. Unless you're like CJ Wilson, who wanted to play near his childhood home and gave up money to do so. Mostly, it's a matter of money and the Marlins will have plenty to spend in the next couple of years.
November 14, 201213 yr How did they get so far in debt? They didn't take on that much in salary last year. Jose made 10 Mil, Buerhle the same, Bell only made 6 Mil. JJ get a 6 Mil raise but they ditched Hanley and offset that salary. Either Loria spent money thinking he would make a certain attendance number and didn't OR he saw the huge raises coming this year and panicked.
November 14, 201213 yr Who the f*** in their right mind is gonna wanna come here? Jose Reyes thought he was gonna be living in Miami long-term and now he's stuck in Canada. He's not "stuck" anywhere. Almost nobody in MLB makes any long-term assumption about where they will play, turnover is the norm. They live where they want to live the other 6 months of each year. If Reyes wants to live in Miami in the off-season, he can. Any ballplayer can afford to live anywhere he wants in the off-season. Why would anyone not want to come here? You get paid X dollars to perform. Period. Just like any other franchise. You want to move here and live here? Fine, you can do that. You get to play half of your games in the newest and one of the finest stadiums in all of baseball. Or, you could sign a contract with the Cubs or Red Sox and play in one of the two crappiest stadiums in all of baseball, each about 100 years old, rats and all. The whole idea that no FA would want to come here is totally ridiculous. Unless you're like CJ Wilson, who wanted to play near his childhood home and gave up money to do so. Mostly, it's a matter of money and the Marlins will have plenty to spend in the next couple of years. I'm sure a big FA will sign again but it will be 1) for a huge amount of money and 2) a full NTC.
November 14, 201213 yr Trader Jack as bench coach. I don't know if you're serious but I really have been thinking about this lately. It'd be perfect for Red in his first campaign as a big league skipper to have one of his mentors there alongside. I am serious. For exactly the reason you stated. Plus, having a hard-ass in the dugout can't hurt.
November 14, 201213 yr According to Heyman, a source told him that the Marlins are financially "under water". A source? What is that supposed to mean? They lost a few mill last year because they made a mistake? We already know that.
November 14, 201213 yr Who the f*** in their right mind is gonna wanna come here? Jose Reyes thought he was gonna be living in Miami long-term and now he's stuck in Canada. He's not "stuck" anywhere. Almost nobody in MLB makes any long-term assumption about where they will play, turnover is the norm. They live where they want to live the other 6 months of each year. If Reyes wants to live in Miami in the off-season, he can. Any ballplayer can afford to live anywhere he wants in the off-season. Why would anyone not want to come here? You get paid X dollars to perform. Period. Just like any other franchise. You want to move here and live here? Fine, you can do that. You get to play half of your games in the newest and one of the finest stadiums in all of baseball. Or, you could sign a contract with the Cubs or Red Sox and play in one of the two crappiest stadiums in all of baseball, each about 100 years old, rats and all. The whole idea that no FA would want to come here is totally ridiculous. Unless you're like CJ Wilson, who wanted to play near his childhood home and gave up money to do so. Mostly, it's a matter of money and the Marlins will have plenty to spend in the next couple of years. The team is notorious for trading away it's best players even when they win. I sure as hell wouldn't wanna sign somewhere where I likely won't be around for long, as well as most of my teammates. I also wouldn't wanna play in front of a crowd of 3 people for every home game. If I can get a similar amount somewhere else, I'd go somewhere else.
November 14, 201213 yr According to Heyman, a source told him that the Marlins are financially "under water". ooohhh nooooo! Loria might have to sell the team now! OH NOOOOOO
November 14, 201213 yr How did they get so far in debt? They didn't take on that much in salary last year. Jose made 10 Mil, Buerhle [sic] the same Ah, Mutts fans, ain't they great? Can't even get basic facts straight. Buehrle only made 6 mill last year, not 10. You wanna talk about debt? Let's talk about Fred Wilpon. And his buddy Bernie Madoff. The Mutts lost 70 mill last year. They settled with the Madoff trustee in the matter of the 162 million they received in fictitious profits over 6 years from Madoff by giving up claims to other fictitious profits in other of their own Madoff accounts. http://espn.go.com/n...tee-162-million Loria can't hold even the tiniest candle to Wilpon when it comes to being a fraudulent scumbag. Here's an idea. Don't lecture anyone about losses, debt or being a scumbag until the Mutts get a new owner.
November 14, 201213 yr ... and most anyone with a brain. Apparently not to include yourself. Whatever, Mr. Loria.
November 14, 201213 yr Blue Jays fan here, I figure I could give you guys some info on the main guys you are getting. Yunel Escobar is a good SS, and could very well make you forget about Jose Reyes (Not likely considering it's Reyes). Has a decent bat, good speed and an excellent fielder. The whole "cancer" thing is a bit overblown. He was fine here except for the eye black, which in itself wasn't a big deal as it was made out to be. You guys will like Yunel, as long as he stays quiet. Henderson Alvarez, honestly I liked the guy. He could turn out to be a very good #2 in the future, which many believe is his potential. As much as I like the guy, I only see him as a #3. Doesn't throw the fastest balls in the league, but around 94-95, is pretty good. Since he's coming from Toronto, his arm could be an issue, as all our young pitchers end up having TJ surgury Adeiny Hechavarria, you guys will love him. Hate that he's going, but we had to give up something significant. Is an excellent fielder, and has great speed. You guys will love the kid. Near the end of the season he started to get on base more frequently for us. If he continues to work on his batting, he will turn into a great player. Jeff Mathis, good backup for us, and really helped JPA. Had good numbers for a backup catcher this past season. Should do good if he has a chance to be a starter for you guys. (I'm not sure if you guys have another catcher??) The prospects are all very good. and with some more work, could be servicable MLB players. The one to watch out for is the outfielder Jake Marsinek (sp?). He should become the best of the 3. Overall, it's never good to trade 3 stars in one deal, because you won't get as much as you would if you dealt them individually. But you guys didn't get NOTHING in return. So hopefully this helps you guys out a bit
November 14, 201213 yr I feel like Roddy Piper did in "They Live". Who has their trusty alien viewing ray-bans? LoMo should've been this for Halloween. I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... And I'm all out of bubblegum. http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp_K8prLfso
November 14, 201213 yr Anyone who thinks giving an average 3.5-4.0 ERA pitcher 20M a year for another 3 years just because he's 'consistent' and gets 200 innings like Buehrle is a good idea... come on. Same thing with Reyes and Bell. My main problem is that all those awful contracts were given to begin with and no repercussions or consequences took place. FO is still in one piece while everyone but them has suffered for their decisions. Players getting flown around like it's a video game, community getting duped, fans buying stuff and now disheartened. That's what bothers me the most. This is what we should've done to begin with but everyone in the marlins FO was too busy smelling their own farts they created an awful overpaid team that still had holes. And as much as I like the moves from a baseball standpoint (and hate it from every other stand point), now it's going to be very hard to sign certain players without giving them no trade clauses or at a good price. No one is going to want to come to Miami now and give us a discount or be more inclined to sign here, much of the opposite.
November 14, 201213 yr And there's no way we trade Nolasco without eating salary or taking back a bad contract, albeit less bad. No one will say, "here Marlins, take an ok whatever prospect for that enticing 11M SP you got there that got you a 4.5ERA in a pitchers park in the NL. Can't wait to see what he does for us."
November 14, 201213 yr According to Heyman, a source told him that the Marlins are financially "under water". Makes perfect sense, they are sport fish afterall.
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