November 14, 201213 yr “When I was there, you could see the passion that Jeffrey Loria has; he does want to win,� said the former Marlins reliever Randy Choate, who was traded with Ramirez to the Los Angeles Dodgers in July. He added: “But it’s just unexplainable. I don’t think any of those guys would have signed there if they thought they’d get traded one year later. Obviously, they don’t give any no-trade clauses, and now you see why.�
November 14, 201213 yr reading frisaro's article about the potential trade makes me sick. we got rid of jose reyes to bring in yunel escobar and adeiny hechavarria. what a f***ing joke.
November 14, 201213 yr Who cares? Except for Stanton, I have no problem with the 2013 Marlins looking nothing like the 2012 Marlins.
November 14, 201213 yr 2013 Fish lineup at this time C : Branlty / Mathis 1B : LoMo 2B : Solano 3B : Hechavarria SS : Escobar LF : Ruggiano CF : Marisnick? / Yellich? RF : Stanton Rotation 1. Nolasco 2. Turner 3. Eovaldi 4. Alvarez 5. Nicolino? Fernandez?
November 14, 201213 yr The uproar that this is causing around the baseball world gives me hope that Selig will step in and do something. I don't want to get my hopes up though.
November 14, 201213 yr 2013 Fish lineup at this time C : Branlty / Mathis 1B : LoMo 2B : Solano 3B : Hechavarria SS : Escobar LF : Ruggiano CF : Marisnick? / Yellich? RF : Stanton Rotation 1. Nolasco 2. Turner 3. Eovaldi 4. Alvarez 5. Nicolino? Fernandez? Pretty sure we'll see Gorkys in CF opening day
November 14, 201213 yr 2013 Fish lineup at this time C : Branlty / Mathis 1B : LoMo 2B : Solano 3B : Hechavarria SS : Escobar LF : Ruggiano CF : Marisnick? / Yellich? RF : Stanton Rotation 1. Nolasco 2. Turner 3. Eovaldi 4. Alvarez 5. Nicolino? Fernandez? Pretty sure we'll see Gorkys in CF opening day Nolasco is surely next to go.
November 14, 201213 yr Anyone get a feeling the delay is the marlins leaking it to the media and gauging the reaction? I wouldn't becsurprised to see the deal fall apart and pieces traded elsewhere.
November 14, 201213 yr I don't even know why people are upset. It's not like the Marlins haven't done sh*t like this before. Sure, they conned you with the big money moves last season, but Loria has by and large been a cheapskate. He didn't get the fans he expected this season, so his next move is to cut his losses and run for the hills. Or he's just going to spend the next fifty years pocketing revenue sharing money and keeping the Marlins as bottom feeders. Who knows at this point. It's just awesome to look at the roster for next season. We're on pace to start Jacob Turner Opening Day, with a lineup consisting of... C: Brantley/Mathis 1B: Carlos Lee 2B: Solano SS: Escobar 3B: Kouuuuuuuuuuuuzmanoff LF: Morrison CF: Ruggiano RF: Stanton That lineup, outside of Stanton and Ruggiano (suddenly he's an important piece to our future. OMG!), is about as lulz worthy as you can get. I'd love to see a Home Run Derby between that Marlins lineup (minus Stanton) and the Houston Astros.
November 14, 201213 yr Anyone get a feeling the delay is the marlins leaking it to the media and gauging the reaction? I wouldn't becsurprised to see the deal fall apart and pieces traded elsewhere. jon heyman just said the owners meetings got spiced up from the potential trade.
November 14, 201213 yr Why are we upset? So because they've f'd us over before, it's cool that they F us again!? Someone sell Dim their season tickets. Here's your chance.
November 14, 201213 yr Anyone get a feeling the delay is the marlins leaking it to the media and gauging the reaction? I wouldn't becsurprised to see the deal fall apart and pieces traded elsewhere. If you leak something, it would be in regards to a smaller deal (say JJ to Texas alone). Even if that kind of deal falls apart, the fan base is willing to crawl back. You don't come back from this kind of deal, even if it doesn't go through. No player on the team would ever be able to trust the Marlins front office again. It's going to be extremely hard to sign any free agents for the next couple of years unless they are bottom of the market free agents who are simply in need of a job. Basically, it's 2006 all over again with a lineup more similar to our 98 squad (again, minus Stanton). I just feel terrible for Giancarlo. He's stuck for four years on this squad until he's allowed to escape to play for the Dodgers. Sure, he'll make a sh*t ton of money in arbitration, and he gets to live in MIAMI, but it's gonna be sad watching him be to the Marlins what Barry Sanders was to the Lions.
November 14, 201213 yr Author The reason for the delay is due to the players involved have yet to take and pass their physicals and the teams receiving medical reports. Also, Selig and MLB have yet to approve the deal.
November 14, 201213 yr Why are we upset? So because they've f'd us over before, it's cool that they F us again!? Someone sell Dim their season tickets. Here's your chance. Did I say it was ok? I just would've assumed Marlins fans would become numb to this kind of shenanigans by now similar to how Indians fans are. If you've been following one team for long enough, you learn how things go. We knew how Beinfest/Loria/Samson operated, and their doing nothing to change that image. Hell, the 2012 shopping spree was more surprising to me than the fire sale. Just imagine the sh*t storm we'd be in for if Loria actually succeeded in signing Pujols and CJ Wilson. Would've been insane trying to find trade partners to take on those contracts.
November 14, 201213 yr And I would give the Dolphins sh*t for putting out crappy teams but at least they keep trying long-term.... Other than changing Qbs every year....
November 14, 201213 yr Selig will do nothing, nor should he. No FA who signed here last year thought he would be traded after one year, neither did anyone in the FO think any of them would be traded when those contracts were signed. No school suffered because of the stadium. Need I remind anyone yet again that the stadium is paid for by dedicated tourist hotel bed taxes? Loria isn't going anywhere, he's a fan, he wants to win and will try anything to do so. Unlike any previous owner, Loria got the stadium done. How soon they forget. Loria committed to 190 mill in FAs last year. It was an unmitigated disaster. What would you have him do? Tinker around the edges for losing season after losing season? Loria's smart and knows how to admit failure and when to cut his losses. What they tried last year failed miserably, so he blew it up rather than tinker and make excuses for years. Simple as that. The start if it was dumping Hanley, then Bell, Guillan, this trade and perhaps Nolasco will be the end of it. Years ago, I checked roster longevity. Very few teams have even 5 guys who have been around for 5 years. Turnover is constant in MLB. It's just that the Marlins do it in bigger, splashier batches. So what? Stanton remains untouchable. The rest have to earn their spots. Starting over with a different group of guys and 50+ million in cash flexibility is far preferable to tinkering with a group of guys who have already demonstrated that they can't win. As I said, I love it.
November 14, 201213 yr Years ago, I checked roster longevity. Very few teams have even 5 guys who have been around for 5 years. Turnover is constant in MLB. Not this constant. I'd love to find out if there's been any team that's executed more trades over the last three years than the Marlins.
November 14, 201213 yr im reading all these articles and man are the top writers just ripping the marlins.
November 14, 201213 yr Selig will do nothing, nor should he. No FA who signed here last year thought he would be traded after one year, neither did anyone in the FO think any of them would be traded when those contracts were signed. No school suffered because of the stadium. Need I remind anyone yet again that the stadium is paid for by dedicated tourist hotel bed taxes? Loria isn't going anywhere, he's a fan, he wants to win and will try anything to do so. Unlike any previous owner, Loria got the stadium done. How soon they forget. Loria committed to 190 mill in FAs last year. It was an unmitigated disaster. What would you have him do? Tinker around the edges for losing season after losing season? Loria's smart and knows how to admit failure and when to cut his losses. What they tried last year failed miserably, so he blew it up rather than tinker and make excuses for years. Simple as that. The start if it was dumping Hanley, then Bell, Guillan, this trade and perhaps Nolasco will be the end of it. Years ago, I checked roster longevity. Very few teams have even 5 guys who have been around for 5 years. Turnover is constant in MLB. It's just that the Marlins do it in bigger, splashier batches. So what? Stanton remains untouchable. The rest have to earn their spots. Starting over with a different group of guys and 50+ million in cash flexibility is far preferable to tinkering with a group of guys who have already demonstrated that they can't win. As I said, I love it. No, this is a very dumb move. There was no reason to move Reyes and Mark B. No. Reason. JJ, Buck, and Boni...fine, but those two needed to stay. We got nothing in value. This team sucks, and Loria can f*** off. Will I still watch? Yea, but I live up in NC, so by watch, I usually look at boring Gameday. f***.
November 14, 201213 yr Too bad cespedes wasn't available this winter ..... No doubt would be there about playing in the majors ..... Also a shame i haven't made a fall league game this year to see the 2013 Marlins
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