November 14, 201213 yr Even if Loria did want Greinke, Bourn, and Hamilton there is no way they would want to sign here.
November 14, 201213 yr Lol watch its going to be a repeat this year in the winter meetings. Hamilton and Grienke! lets go! It'd make no sense to trade Reyes away and then sign more big deals like that right away. If the plan was to spend the money right away, I assume they would've kept Reyes.
November 14, 201213 yr Lol watch its going to be a repeat this year in the winter meetings. Hamilton and Grienke! lets go! It'd make no sense to trade Reyes away and then sign more big deals like that right away. If the plan was to spend the money right away, I assume they would've kept Reyes. Exactly. If they were looking to shed salary, but also try to compete and make a splash, they would have kept Reyes at the very least.
November 14, 201213 yr I just found out. Well, RIP Miami Marlins. What a fail season, fail off-season, and well a fail blockbuster trade. I mean it had to happen right? We always find a way to dump our players.. Too bad Stanton won't be here for long.
November 14, 201213 yr Too bad Stanton won't be here for long. He's under team control for several more years and I still think he signs a long term deal anyway.
November 14, 201213 yr Too bad Stanton won't be here for long. He's under team control for several more years and I still think he signs a long term deal anyway. Long term? It's possible. I don't expect him to play his prime years here though.. He'll be gone soon and join the Cabrera's and the Hanley's. I still can't believe we let Cabrera go.. I wonder what happened to Andrew Miller..?
November 14, 201213 yr I'm pretty fine getting rid of Johnson, Buck, and Buehrle. I would have kept Reyes. The biggest problem is that I don't think that the talent they got back in return is that great. It's going to be hard for them to seed a winning team over the next couple of seasons. They had to have known this was coming by last July. Why the hell didn't they try harder to trade Josh Johnson then to Texas? They probably could have gotten a better return.
November 14, 201213 yr Author Too bad Stanton won't be here for long. He's under team control for several more years and I still think he signs a long term deal anyway. Long term? It's possible. I don't expect him to play his prime years here though.. He'll be gone soon and join the Cabrera's and the Hanley's. I still can't believe we let Cabrera go.. I wonder what happened to Andrew Miller..? He's with the Red Sox
November 14, 201213 yr I need to say something. I worked for the Expos until the bitter end and I always found Jeff Loria to be honest. I can NOT say the same about his stepson. The problem has always been it has been Loria's WIFE's money which is why David has the power he has. Loria did not kill the Expos - that had been done by Claude Brochu Samson not Loria was the genius that took the Expos off English radio in 2000 and putting Dave Van Horne on the internet only. I think there is a very good chance John Henry gets the Marlins back. The stadium is built now and JWH is still a Boca guy. The sad part is this circus in Miami dooms any chance for the Rays to get a new park in Tampa. What 'could' happen? The Marlins become the only MLB team in Florida ( and statewide TV ) and the Rays could very well wind up in Montreal as the climate here as changed about stadiums. But Samson is the bad guy - not Loria.
November 14, 201213 yr Rays Fan Here and i joined just to say how very sorry i am for you all as a Fan base you guys are stronger then Cubs Fans i think What a Spat in the Face by your ownerships.
November 14, 201213 yr With all the holes this team has it would have been nice to have a "super" utility-man like Bonifacio to confidently plug in at almost any position. It's a joke that because Boni is arbitration eligible he had to be included in the deal. Ok, so they traded Johnson, Reyes, and Beurhle in a massive salary dump.... why push the dagger even further by throwing in one of the more exciting (and still affordable) players that remained on the team???? Jeeez.....Frustrating in many ways.
November 14, 201213 yr Rays Fan Here and i joined just to say how very sorry i am for you all as a Fan base you guys are stronger then Cubs Fans i think What a Spat in the Face by your ownerships.
November 14, 201213 yr I am absolutely hurt and the fact that not all of you are angered by this and still willing to follow this team to the grave disgusts me. This did this knowing some of you would be like, "Oh. There go the Marlins! lol." The fact that this team lied to us, lied to our city, lied to the players, is a b-move. I can't believe we would waste hours of our lives watching them with hope we believed to be real but it's just the front office feeding us fake hope... I cannot believe this. Even if this is the third time...... I haven't logged in forever but this was unbelievable......
November 14, 201213 yr There's no way you can defend this deal on purely baseball terms. I can understand, if you don't live in Miami, and you don't have the same connection with the city, then I can see how this could be just about baseball for you. But this is about a lot more than baseball. They should break that stadium into pieces, sell off the parts, and provide tax refunds for all the people that were forced to hand over some of their hard-earned money so these assclowns could buy a few more yachts. Yes, all of these guys are overpaid. But that's what you do when you spend on free agents. You overpay. You pay more than every single other team in the MLB is willing to pay for a player. Practically by definition, when you sign a free agent, you overpay. If you trade away every player who makes more than they're worth, you're going to have a hard time fielding a competitive team. That stadium was built on a promise that there would be some level of commitment to putting a competitive product on the field. They lied to us and stole our money, and to me that is unforgivable. I will continue to cheer on a few individuals, like Stanton and Lomo, but I hope this team crashes and burns next year. Empty seats and blowout losses. We deserve a measure of revenge.
November 14, 201213 yr Jays fans love this trade, btw. Since I'm now a Yankees fan, I hate the trade even more now!! Those wretched Jays!
November 14, 201213 yr No Ownership can be this..... Incompatant can it? Maybe the Heat owners would buy the Marlins and turn em into Owners.
November 14, 201213 yr No Ownership can be this..... Incompatant can it? Maybe the Heat owners would buy the Marlins and turn em into Owners. Huh? Do you mean owners as in, like, they own people? Like pwners?
November 14, 201213 yr Can the owner go to jail for this? Building a stadium with tax money and everything?....... Wow I'm taking this hard......
November 14, 201213 yr No Ownership can be this..... Incompatant can it? Maybe the Heat owners would buy the Marlins and turn em into Owners. Huh? Do you mean owners as in, like, they own people? Like pwners? Huh? Sorry i mistyped put in the wrong word i meant winners Sorry
November 14, 201213 yr I just don't see how Selig lets this slide.... especially after the marlins were called out for how much they spent on payroll.
November 14, 201213 yr Logan Morrison �@LoMoMarlins Ur not getting a rt for no reason RT @BaseballMonster I've bet you've said "What the f***?" more than once this evening. #marlins
November 14, 201213 yr Anyone who goes to a Marlin game next year is an idiot! Season ticket holders should demand refunds, and individual ticket buyers should do the same. This organziation has lied to us, has stollen from us, and has cheated everyone countless times; ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! They dont deserve us as fans, they dont care about winning, and all they really care about is their pockets. How can MLB allow a moron like Loria to be an owner. This is a slap in the face to the fans, the city of Miami, and MLB. Ive loved this team since inception, since Hough's first pitch, multiple fire sales, and two WCs, but Im tired. They really need to take a hard look at their brothers East of them, and see how you really should run a sports franchise! And to think, the City could have used the money Loria stole for his stadium, to renovate or build a new OB for the Canes, or SunLife and the Fins.
November 14, 201213 yr My problem with the trade is that the Marlins blow their wad in one shot! I like Nicolino (LHP) and Marisnick (CF), Henderson Alvarez can start every 5 days and has very good stuff but that is as far as I go. Escobar is a decent SS , Hechevarria may have more potential they may even end up being our DP combo next season, their biggest asset in my opinion is that they are Cuban.(Marlins again trying to attract the Cuban Community to buy tickets) I am certain if you look around we might have gotten more with less Here are some examples: Josh Johson to Texas for Mike Olt (would have resolved our 3rd base situation) Reyes to the Red Sox for Xander Bogaerts and Chris Carpenter(100 mph heater) would still have Buehrle Bonifacio and Buck to trade
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