November 7, 201312 yr How about Brandon Phillips? Relatively affordable at 11 million and 12 million in 2015. Slide Dietrich over to 3rd. He's on a very disturbing decline, I would pass What if Cincy pays some of the tab?
November 7, 201312 yr i can just see the fish spending money on phillips to watch him continue to regress and then just use that to say, "oh well, look! we spent money on someone and it didn't work out again!" i don't want any part of phillips at this point judging by the precipitous decline in his numbers over the past few seasons.
November 7, 201312 yr Author Middlebrooks, Phillips and Trumbo. Get all three. What would we do with Middlebrooks AND Trumbo? That would be a little redundant. And idk why so many people here are high on Phillips. Honestly I'd rather have Dietrich for cheap.
November 7, 201312 yr How about Brandon Phillips? Relatively affordable at 11 million and 12 million in 2015. Slide Dietrich over to 3rd. I have a feeling that next year Dietrich's numbers will eclipse Phillips'. In fact I'd be willing to bet on it. He's gotta start at 2b in order for that to happen Unlike Bender, I don't think that's an unreasonable assertion thought. Phillips career OPS is .749 and he's on the wrong side of 30. I would say if given appropriate starts DD has a solid shot to outperform him offensively. Defensively, not even close of course. Phillips had 103 RBI and is a gold glover. Enough said. Dont see why the Reds want to trade him either. Granted Votto's other numbers were astronomical compared to his but Phillips drive in 30 more runs than Votto. Probably becuase Votto was getting walked so much. Pretty amazing how he had 103 RBI with a .706 OPS. Votto had 193 plate appearances with RISP and drew 51 walks. Ridiculous amount. Explains Phillips' RBI total.
November 7, 201312 yr How about Brandon Phillips? Relatively affordable at 11 million and 12 million in 2015. Slide Dietrich over to 3rd. I have a feeling that next year Dietrich's numbers will eclipse Phillips'. In fact I'd be willing to bet on it. He's gotta start at 2b in order for that to happen Unlike Bender, I don't think that's an unreasonable assertion thought. Phillips career OPS is .749 and he's on the wrong side of 30. I would say if given appropriate starts DD has a solid shot to outperform him offensively. Defensively, not even close of course. Phillips had 103 RBI and is a gold glover. Enough said. Dont see why the Reds want to trade him either. Granted Votto's other numbers were astronomical compared to his but Phillips drive in 30 more runs than Votto. Probably becuase Votto was getting walked so much. Pretty amazing how he had 103 RBI with a .706 OPS.
November 7, 201312 yr How about Brandon Phillips? Relatively affordable at 11 million and 12 million in 2015. Slide Dietrich over to 3rd. He's on a very disturbing decline, I would pass What if Cincy pays some of the tab? It really depends on how much and what we would have to give up.
November 7, 201312 yr RBIs are a terrible stat to judge a players value on. a pretty terrible stat in every other instance as well
November 9, 201312 yr Middlebrooks, Phillips and Trumbo. Get all three. What would we do with Middlebrooks AND Trumbo? That would be a little redundant. And idk why so many people here are high on Phillips. Honestly I'd rather have Dietrich for cheap. Middlebrooks at 3B, Trumbo at 1B.
November 9, 201312 yr Author Middlebrooks, Phillips and Trumbo. Get all three. What would we do with Middlebrooks AND Trumbo? That would be a little redundant. And idk why so many people here are high on Phillips. Honestly I'd rather have Dietrich for cheap. Middlebrooks at 3B, Trumbo at 1B. Again, still kind of redundant. Trading for Trumbo or Middlebrooks to add to the lineup with LoMo makes sense IMO. To remove LoMo and add both of them seems like making moves just to make moves. LoMo has about as much upside as both of those players except he's left handed. Might as well try and hang on to him and add one more guy at third. I actually think Middlebrooks will make more sense, he's a natural Third Baseman and will probably require less to pick up. He's also younger and under control longer. The downside is he's probably just not as good a hitter as Trumbo, but he's got a bunch of potential. Either way I'd probably be excited with either of those names...
November 18, 201312 yr Author From Jim Bowden: The move: Trade right-hander Jacob Turner and reliever A.J. Ramos to theLos Angeles Angels in exchange for first baseman/outfielder Mark Trumbo. Why: Trumbo would give the Marlins someone other than Giancarlo Stantonwho can produce 30-plus homers. The Angels are in dire need of upgrading their pitching staff with young, affordable arms, and Turner and Ramos would improve the rotation and bullpen, respectively. I would hate to lose Ramos, and Turner is good and all, but... I would definitely make that deal. Ramos had a fine rookie year, but he is replaceable and Turner is certainly replaceable with the arms we have coming. Works for both franchises.
November 18, 201312 yr I don't think Turner is worth that much right now. Maybe Alvarez and his irrelevant no hitter might actually get them to bite. I wouldn't trade Eovaldi though.
November 18, 201312 yr I would keep Turner, we'd be trading at a low point and I think he will improve.
November 18, 201312 yr I think I'd do that, yeah. Gotta hope Flynn is good to go for next year to replace Turner, but I think so. Could maybe see this lineup opening day: LF Yelich / Hech SS / Morrison 1B / Stanton RF / Trumbo 3B / Ozuna CF / Dietrich 2B / Fernandez P / Mathis C Yep. Fernandez > Mathis. I don't want Hech batting 2nd, but it helps the lineup more, IMO, with Ozuna batting in the middle rather than up top. Rotation: Fernandez, Eovaldi, Alvarez, Rotating Door between Flynn, Hand, Koehler. I guess? IDK. I'll analyze this later.
November 18, 201312 yr Author Well, Bowden being a guy looking from the outside in at the Marlins... If the thinks it's a deal that could get done, maybe Turner is worth more than some assume. Also, that's not just for Turner. Ramos is arguably worth as much as Turner. He has what, five or six years of club control left? That's a good deal for both sides.
November 18, 201312 yr Rotation: Fernandez, Eovaldi, Alvarez, Rotating Door between Flynn, Hand, Koehler. Koehler probably would stick for the 4th slot and then that 5th spot would rotate until Heaney is ready mid-season.
November 18, 201312 yr Author I think I'd do that, yeah. Gotta hope Flynn is good to go for next year to replace Turner, but I think so. Could maybe see this lineup opening day: LF Yelich / Hech SS / Morrison 1B / Stanton RF / Trumbo 3B / Ozuna CF / Dietrich 2B / Fernandez P / Mathis C Yep. Fernandez > Mathis. I don't want Hech batting 2nd, but it helps the lineup more, IMO, with Ozuna batting in the middle rather than up top. Rotation: Fernandez, Eovaldi, Alvarez, Rotating Door between Flynn, Hand, Koehler. I guess? IDK. I'll analyze this later. I'd be cool with that lineup, as long as another catcher is starting. Could be any other starting catcher in MLB and I'm cool, lol.
November 18, 201312 yr I'd be cool with that lineup, as long as another catcher is starting. Could be any other starting catcher in MLB and I'm cool, lol. John Buck?
November 18, 201312 yr Author I'd be cool with that lineup, as long as another catcher is starting. Could be any other starting catcher in MLB and I'm cool, lol. John Buck?Totally fine with that. Night and day. You never know what you got til it's gone.
November 18, 201312 yr Author Let's just say Mathis for now. I doubt it'll be Brantly. At this point, since most of the realistic names we have thrown around have already signed, I'm hoping for Dioner Navarro. He's the most realistic budget wise, a ton of upside, and Mathis will still get on the field 50-70 times.
November 18, 201312 yr Author No thanks on Navarro. He had the highest OPS of any catcher in the big leagues (with 250+ PA) not named Joe Mauer. What would be the downside? Mathis could get enough AB's to keep Navarro healthy, and he will be cheap.
November 18, 201312 yr Ugh, trading Turner and Ramos for Trumbo is a dumb idea. He's not worth that kind of package. I would rather trade them lower-level guys (3 or so), since they have a very light farm system these days. It might be doable.
November 18, 201312 yr Author Ugh, trading Turner and Ramos for Trumbo is a dumb idea. He's not worth that kind of package. I would rather trade them lower-level guys (3 or so), since they have a very light farm system these days. It might be doable. I think the whole idea of them trading Trumbo is to get Major League READY pitching. I think Turner/Ramos is a fair package, honestly. A top bullpen arm cheap for years, 3-to-5 starter in Turner also cheap for years. We have enough arms coming up to replace both and insert a 30 homer, 100 RBI bat into the lineup. I'm all for it.
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