he could have used "it's" too.

Don't take away his accomplishment.

So it looks like we all agree that Spike is wrong. Yay! Next debate, this case is closed.

Except no one said that. Actually, they have all told you you are wrong.

 

Interesting how your brain works.

Except no one said that. Actually, they have all told you you are wrong.

 

Interesting how your brain works.

 

So, how do you read these posts?

 

 

You're right in saying that speed plays a part in actual .BABIP though so you're right about that.

 

There's no speed factor in the actual formula is what I'm saying. It's just something that you logically apply when evaluating a player and predicting his future. It's also why career .babip's matter when evaluating actual talent level.

 

Without a doubt, a player that is faster than another player will on average have the ability to sustain a higher BABIP than the slower player. So yes, speed plays a role in BABIP.

 

Correct, BABIP is simply the percentage a ball in play results in a hit, nothing to do with speed. But, a speedy player will capitalize on balls put in play more than others, correct?

 

Interesting that your brain thinks those posts don't agree with me and completely disagree with you. EricOwens literally said exactly what I said, because it's absolutely 100% right, and it's just logic or common sense. Myself, Erick, EricOwens, Piazza (once he figured it out) and it seems even Penguino all agree here. Please, someone correct me if I'm mistaken.

Count me in Wild Card's corner on this (very-narrow) point, as well.

 

In that case, Wild Card is completely right and everyone can continue picking at everything he says. He's usually just annoying and argumentative, but in this case, absolutely makes sense.

Why is this even a discussion? Of course speed factors in to BABIP. Always has. It's always been a known fact. This is nothing new. Billy Hamilton is going to beat out more infield hits and bunt for more hits than David Ortiz. How hard is that to understand?

Why is this even a discussion? Of course speed factors in to BABIP. Always has. It's always been a known fact. This is nothing new. Billy Hamilton is going to beat out more infield hits and bunt for more hits than David Ortiz. How hard is that to understand?

 

 

 

Spike, have you had enough or should we all keep going?

he could have used "it's" too.

 

At the beginning of a sentence I prefer not to use a conjugation. Atleast when I'm using proper Grammar. My own quirk, I know.

So, how do you read these posts?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Interesting that your brain thinks those posts don't agree with me and completely disagree with you. EricOwens literally said exactly what I said, because it's absolutely 100% right, and it's just logic or common sense. Myself, Erick, EricOwens, Piazza (once he figured it out) and it seems even Penguino all agree here. Please, someone correct me if I'm mistaken.

 

What the fuck do you mean once I figured it out? Fuck you- that implies I had no idea what was going on.

 

I'm still right, as Erick mentioned- it's a logical move to say speed affects BABIP but in no way does the formula account for it.

 

Figured it out-----psssshhh. You are still fucking lost at sea.

Why is this even a discussion? Of course speed factors in to BABIP. Always has. It's always been a known fact. This is nothing new. Billy Hamilton is going to beat out more infield hits and bunt for more hits than David Ortiz. How hard is that to understand?

 

But- and this is just a yes or no.... Is there a part of the BABIP formula that says "speed"? You're not locked jnto a yes or no , but you get the point.

 

Or does the formula only account for the outcome?

 

Speed is irrelevant- the formula simply uses it's result.

 

Literally, speed is irrelevant when computing BABIP.

At the beginning of a sentence I prefer not to use a conjugation. Atleast when I'm using proper Grammar. My own quirk, I know.

 

**contraction

 

You and "proper grammar" are like oil and water.

But- and this is just a yes or no.... Is there a part of the BABIP formula that says "speed"? You're not locked jnto a yes or no , but you get the point.

 

Or does the formula only account for the outcome?

 

Speed is irrelevant- the formula simply uses it's result.

 

Literally, speed is irrelevant when computing BABIP.

 

I don't think that a single person in this thread is suggesting that there is a "speed" variable in BABIP.

But- and this is just a yes or no.... Is there a part of the BABIP formula that says "speed"? You're not locked jnto a yes or no , but you get the point.

 

Or does the formula only account for the outcome?

 

Speed is irrelevant- the formula simply uses it's result.

 

Literally, speed is irrelevant when computing BABIP.

 

No. There isn't. 40 homers vs 40 infield hits would equal the same BABIP. But since homers are harder to come by than slow rolling grounders or bunt hits, speed gives an edge when it comes to that stat. Or any BA based stat. A slight edge but it's there.

Actually, 40 homers = 0.000 BABIP. Home runs don't count as balls in play.

 

Now, 40 triples = 40 infield hits in terms of BABIP, yes.

No. There isn't. 40 homers vs 40 infield hits would equal the same BABIP. But since homers are harder to come by, speed gives an edge when it comes to that stat.

 

Actually, homers don't count toward BABIP, so 40 HR = .000 BABIP

My bad. Fine, XBHs that aren't HRs.

That isn't true. Home runs aren't balls in play.

I think he got it now. :lol

Actually, 40 homers = 0.000 BABIP. Home runs don't count as balls in play.

 

Now, 40 triples = 40 infield hits in terms of BABIP, yes.

 

Hey guys do homers count as balls in play in BABIP?

Hey guys do homers count as balls in play in BABIP?

 

Callate lo pinche boca

Hey guys do homers count as balls in play in BABIP?

 

I believe they do under Rule 7.13.

Rule 7.14 - any home run hit over 425 feet no longer counts.