### Privately, several Marlins players have been very vocal --- with friends, teammates and others ---  expressing displeasure with several factors: a belief, as two expressed, that the team still prioritizes saving money over winning (they cite the Marlins leaving Marcell Ozuna in the minors for nearly six weeks); disenchantment with Dan Jennings’ in-game decisions (lots of complaining about this); and trading veterans for Single A prospects (though that's understandable considering the Marlins' record).

 

One player said it’s time for Jeffrey Loria to sell; another loudly blasted management, using obscenities within earshot of reporters (and yes, management is aware of this). One former player threatened to sound a horn every time someone from Marlins management walked into the clubhouse. The irony is that Loria believed this would be one of the Marlins’ best clubhouses ever. But losing can sour a group.

 

### One might think that Jennings would be relieved after being told he wouldn’t remain as manager, considering it wasn’t his idea and considering the 40-58 record under his direction. But that doesn’t appear to be the case. He has spoken in recent weeks about how much he loves managing, how several opposing managers --- including the Cubs’ Joe Maddon and the Mets’ Terry Collins --- “shared some things to help me because they understand I’m a rookie.”

 

### One problem for Jennings in a potential return to GM: He has Loria’s ear less than he used to. According to a Marlins person, Loria is now listening to director of pro scouting Jeff McAvoy and assistant GM Mike Berger among others.

 

 

Best circus act in town

 

 

Some pretty opinionated players. 

 

 

Ringling Bros

 

 

The Ozuna situation is starting to piss me off. Not because I think the Fish did anything wrong, but just the myopic view everyone has on it. Every team does something similar. The Cubs kept Bryant down in the beginning of the season for reasons akin to saving money/club control. Of course, pundits were commenting on that too, but it was forgotten as soon as Bryant came up. It is just because it is the Marlins that the torch remains lit.

 

And you know, this isn't going to change once Loria sells, whenever that will be. At least not initially. We still got people, fans and some commentators alike, we bring up the 1998 firesale to demonstrate how poorly run this team is, despite that being two owners ago!

 

 

Anybody who gripes about the Marcell Ozuna stuff can go fuck himself, though. I'm sick of hearing people complain about that shit. It was 100% the right thing to do.

 

 

Ozuna was demoted because he was playing like shit, at that point it made sense to keep him down. If he didn't play like shit, they wouldn't have demoted him in the first place

 

 

The Ozuna situation is starting to piss me off. Not because I think the Fish did anything wrong, but just the myopic view everyone has on it. Every team does something similar. The Cubs kept Bryant down in the beginning of the season for reasons akin to saving money/club control. Of course, pundits were commenting on that too, but it was forgotten as soon as Bryant came up. It is just because it is the Marlins that the torch remains lit.

 

And you know, this isn't going to change once Loria sells, whenever that will be. At least not initially. We still got people, fans and some commentators alike, we bring up the 1998 firesale to demonstrate how poorly run this team is, despite that being two owners ago!

 

An extra year of control >>>>>> not paying a player in arbitration.

 

The sending down a player to avoid super 2 status is bush league (though Ozuna was playing like shit, then again, its not like the players around him are lighting the world on fire)

 

 

DJ doesn't want to manage.  That's an outright lie

 

 

Has Dusty Baker's name really been thrown around?

 

 

Has Dusty Baker's name really been thrown around?

 

No. Only by @Das Texan

 

 

No. Only by @Das Texan

 

I'm only reporting what my sources have told me.

 

 

An extra year of control >>>>>> not paying a player in arbitration.

 

The sending down a player to avoid super 2 status is bush league (though Ozuna was playing like shit, then again, its not like the players around him are lighting the world on fire)

 

It is still about the club using the system and holding an advantage over the player. And it was about working the rules of the collective bargaining agreement to maximize a player's long-term affordability (Cubs get an extra year of control where they can keep Bryant's price relatively low, Marlins (not) utilize Super 2 status). It wasn't like the Marlins sent Ozuna down because that means he wouldn't get his stats up which would lead to an arbitrator demanding more money for him. They worked within the rules of the game to both allow a struggling player time to get right and give them more flexibility on how to "deal" with his salary in the future.

 

Every team does things like that to keep their younger players affordable for themselves.

 

 

Latos already getting into it with the doyers:

 

After pitching only four innings Thursday in the Dodgers’ 10-7 loss to the San Diego Padres, Latos complained that his early removal from the game prevented him from developing a rhythm.

 

 

It is still about the club using the system and holding an advantage over the player. And it was about working the rules of the collective bargaining agreement to maximize a player's long-term affordability (Cubs get an extra year of control where they can keep Bryant's price relatively low, Marlins (not) utilize Super 2 status). It wasn't like the Marlins sent Ozuna down because that means he wouldn't get his stats up which would lead to an arbitrator demanding more money for him. They worked within the rules of the game to both allow a struggling player time to get right and give them more flexibility on how to "deal" with his salary in the future.

 

Every team does things like that to keep their younger players affordable for themselves.

 

Only the cheap organizations do it in regards to arbitration status cause then they can pay them peanuts an additional year.

 

 

Only the cheap organizations do it in regards to arbitration status cause then they can pay them peanuts an additional year.

 

If Ozuna would have signed the very fair contract offered to him before the season this wouldn't be an issue. Boras is a fucking germ (look at this harvey shit he's pulling). 

 

 

Latos already getting into it with the doyers:

 

After pitching only four innings Thursday in the Dodgers’ 10-7 loss to the San Diego Padres, Latos complained that his early removal from the game prevented him from developing a rhythm.

 

I heard about that, Dallas Latos sent out some photo from the toilet at Dodger Stadium.

 

How about, not give up 4 runs early in the game.

 

Latos is wearing out his welcome in the Dodger organization in record time.

 

Lets see:

 

Padres

 

Cubs (because the old Padres guys are there)

 

Reds

 

Marlins

 

Dodgers

 

He might want to clean up his act to keep getting a job that pays him a high salary in MLB.

 

 

If Ozuna would have signed the very fair contract offered to him before the season this wouldn't be an issue. Boras is a fucking germ (look at this harvey shit he's pulling). 

 

I'm with Boras on the Harvey sitation, and Boras is by far the best agent in the game its not even close.

 

There is a reason why his players get the biggest contracts year after year.

 

He cares for his players, puts in the time and research and resources for his clients to perform at the top of their games.

 

The numbers and history is on the side of Boras.

 

 

I'm with Boras on the Harvey sitation, and Boras is by far the best agent in the game its not even close.

 

There is a reason why his players get the biggest contracts year after year.

 

He cares for his players, puts in the time and research and resources for his clients to perform at the top of their games.

 

The numbers and history is on the side of Boras.

 

He cares about making himself money. The Ozuna move blew up in his face because Ozuna sucked and got sent down when he had a contract in hand to start the season that Boras told him to refuse. He could end up costing Jose millions as well

 

 

He cares about making himself money. The Ozuna move blew up in his face because Ozuna sucked and got sent down when he had a contract in hand to start the season that Boras told him to refuse

 

It is what it is.

 

Ozuna should stop being lazy and perform better, shit happens, cant blame Boras for Ozuna being a sorry piece of shit.

 

 

It is what it is.

 

Ozuna should stop being lazy and perform better, shit happens, cant blame Boras for Ozuna being a sorry piece of shit.

 

Agreed. They should both keep thier mouths shut is the thing.  Ozuna was terrible before he got sent down. Gallaspie outperformed him easily

 

 

Agreed. They should both keep thier mouths shut is the thing.  Ozuna was terrible before he got sent down. Gallaspie outperformed him easily

 

And Gillespie wasn't half bad either!

 

 

Agreed. They should both keep thier mouths shut is the thing.  Ozuna was terrible before he got sent down. Gallaspie outperformed him easily

 

Well its obvious they kept him down longer just to avoid the Super 2 thing, but yes, perform better and its not an issue.

 

 

Well its obvious they kept him down longer just to avoid the Super 2 thing, but yes, perform better and its not an issue.

 

I'm glad they did. Fuck Boras and fuck Ozuna (he's finally starting to hit at least) . Not letting Jose sign that contract was super super risky. 

 

 

I'm glad they did. Fuck Boras and fuck Ozuna (he's finally starting to hit at least) . Not letting Jose sign that contract was super super risky. 

 

Wondering if they try to offer him another one after the season. Meaning Fernandez.