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ARod Wagner

I'll go with Castillo, Lo Duca, Lowell, Cabrera and a SP

Gonzo's OBP is too woeful to have anyone apart from the pitcher bat behind him. I think he should stay as the 8th hitter.

He can still be productive in the fifth year...atleast it's not guaranteed.

Stark just said the Marlins are the BEST team in the LEAGUE on SportsCenter! WOW 667414[/snapback] Just when I think he couldn't possibly say anything dumber He goes and says something like this.... AND TOTALLY REDEEMS HIMSELF

PhishPhan, Why are you even on this board? You're the most pessimistic poster here, by far. Give us a damn break... we've got the best team on paper in the NL East with Delgado. 667382[/snapback] I guess he gets to live out his high school rebel fantasies on this board 24/7...

Loria = Best Owner the Marlins has ever had 667432[/snapback] hehe unfortunately that doesn't give him enough props... This move and the signing of Pudge has shown him to be very serious about putting forth a competitive team year in and year out. Go Fvck yousrelf Huizenga, Henry There are no excuses, Everyone should be going to Fish games...this organization has done all it can.

Hornsby

They lost their two best bullpen arms so it won't be as good as it was this year, but it's still a pretty decent pen. It won't be the reason they don't do well.

Rotoworld mention the Yankees, Sox, and Astros as teams they would look to dump salary on. 665733[/snapback] That 'exploitation' is hardly comparable to that of the Sox and Yankees using their enormous spending habits to nab players from other teams. The Yankees and the Sox CAN say no, if they aren't well-run enough to say no then that is their fault. Small market teams CAN'T compete with high market teams on a consistent basis. They can't win out a bidding war against a high market team. It's not even comparable. Baseball needs a salary cap, period. Without these crazy spend habits 1) The probability for overpaying for players drops substantially because you aren't bidding against teams that can overpay. 2) The competitive balance in baseball is much improved

Call me when the MArlins break the 75 million dollar payroll barrier. 665340[/snapback] Im not talking about how much you spend, I dont care how much teams spend, it makes the quality of play better if there are more good teams. Im contending that it is hypocrisy if you small budget teams whine about the big boys, but when you need help to make your own big splash...who do you go to? The big boys? 665343[/snapback] What are you talking about? Why exactly are the Marlins begging for help from the Yanks or Sox to sign Delgado?

I just want Encarnacion off the team. Call it hate if you like, but I don't think he's a productive player. All-world all-tool talent and 4.3 forty means nothing if you have the plate discipline of Randall Simon and the contact hitting abilities of Rob Deer. He's below-average at right, even worse as pinch-hitter (and you just know he'd be the first or second man off the bench). We are better suited with Aguila as our 4th outfielder, and another hitter (a cheap lefty Greg Colbrunn character would do) 'pressing' Conine. 665559[/snapback] He only has this one season on his contract, he is overpriced but if ridding him means attaching some good prospect it just might not be worth it.

Ever heard Eruption? 665218[/snapback] Yes and many others, most of which sound the same. As far as pure guitar playing talent, he's a top 5 guy. Unfortunately his band's music wasn't nearly as diverse as most of the more acclaimed bands.

Just hear me out on this one: Stokes' value is at it's peak because he's an on the fence prospect who I think will be very good, but will be blocked if we sign Delgado (unless we try him as a left-fielder). Cabrera's not going anywhere, nor is Lowell or Lo Duca, and Hermida is the only untouchable in our organization, so you'd have to figure that in 2006, our team will feature Delgado, Cabrera, Lowell and Hermida...that blocks Stokes at just about any position...and it blocks Willingham too. Now, if we're in it at the deadline...Stokes and Willingham will have value, value that could get us just about any player available if we package them together...I mean, would you rather rid yourslef of Encarnacion and give up Stokes, or would you rather hold on to Encarnacion as motivation for Conine and a defensive replacement for any outfield position in close game, and make a run at Ben Sheets at the deadline? I think it's a no-brainer... 665043[/snapback] Unfortunately that isn't how it works. Aside from the fact that there is nothing short of Cabrera that would land Sheets, the team in the race is the one that is at the mercy of others. If the Marlins wanted to land a top notch starter they wouldn't be the only ones at the deadline that would want to, there is no leverage there.

Put Enc in right and Miguel in left. Encarnacion is a better defensive RF than Conine, he has a great arm. His offense shouldn't trail that of Conine's this year if at all. Conine will get his share of atbats and could possibly come close to being worth his contract. He could fill in for Delgado, Cabrera and Encarnacion.

There are good reasons on both sides The money issue shouldn't be the sole reason for trading Encarnacion. He only has one year, sure he's overpaid but is it really worth attaching a top prospect to save ourselves of one year over-valued contract? But then again Stokes' value is decreasing year in and year out, he might never be an MLB caliber player nevermind a star. We might be best trading him now. If we could snatch a decent prospect, hopefully a pitching prospect that has some chance of joining the MLB ranks within a year or so then I'd do it in a heartbeat.

I'm happy the peppers made it here.. they are in some good company. time for them to bow out stairing in the face of greatness 664049[/snapback] in due time :shifty

This is the rolling stones list of Top 100 guitarists.. bolded are ones still remaining.. italicized are ones that have been voted off. 1 Jimi Hendrix 2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band 3 B.B. King 4 Eric Clapton 5 Robert Johnson 6 Chuck Berry 7 Stevie Ray Vaughan 6th 8 Ry Cooder 9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin 10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones 11Kirk Hammett of Metallica 12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana 13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead 14 Jeff Beck 15 Carlos Santana 16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones 17 Jack White of the White Stripes 18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers 8th 19 Richard Thompson 20 James Burton 21 George Harrison 22 Mike Bloomfield 23 Warren Haynes 24 The Edge of U2 25 Freddy King 26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave 9th 27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits 28 Stephen Stills 29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges 30 Buddy Guy 31 Dick Dale 32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service 33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth 35 John Fahey 36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's 37 Bo Diddley 38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac 39 Brian May of Queen 40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival 41 Clarence White of the Byrds 42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson 43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic 44 Scotty Moore 45 Frank Zappa 46 Les Paul 47 T-Bone Walker 48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith 10th 49 John McLaughlin 50 Pete Townshend 51 Paul Kossoff of Free 52 Lou Reed 53 Mickey Baker 54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane 55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple 56 Tom Verlaine of Television 57 Roy Buchanan 58 Dickey Betts 59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead 61 Ike Turner 62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band 63 Danny Gatton 64 Mick Ronson 65 Hubert Sumlin 66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour 67 Link Wray 68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape 69 Steve Howe of Yes 70 Eddie Van Halen 71 Lightnin' Hopkins 72 Joni Mitchell 73 Trey Anastasio of Phish 74 Johnny Winter 75 Adam Jones of Tool 76 Ali Farka Toure 77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat 78 Robbie Robertson of the Band 79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997) 80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids 81 Derek Trucks 82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd 83 Neil Young 84 Eddie Cochran 85 Randy Rhoads 86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath 87 Joan Jett 88 Dave Davies of the Kinks 89 D. Boon of the Minutemen 90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper 91 Robby Krieger of the Doors 92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5 94 Bert Jansch 95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine 96 Angus Young of AC/DC 97 Robert Randolph 98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer 99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag 100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden Not listed: Slash 7th 664097[/snapback] Cobain was a much better guitarist than alot of people thought him to be and if you listened to bootlegs you can easily see that, Kim Thayil was very awesome as well. Hehe, I like that Eddie Van Halen was 70th though...god Van Halen was horrible.

Gherig as well

Pudge

Where do these comments fall in the list of Baker's dumbest quotes ever?

25 players that should be hall of famers if they retired today (players that are still active) By position: C. Mike Piazza, Ivan Rodriguez 1B. Jeff Bagwell, Rafael Palmeiro, Frank Thomas, Jim THome 2B. Roberto Alomar, Craig Biggio SS. Derek Jeter, Barry Larkin, Alex Rodriguez, Omar Vizquel LF. Barry BOnds, Manny Ramirez CF. Ken Griffey Jr., Jim Edmonds RF. Gary Sheffield, Sammy Sosa SP. Kevin Brown, Roger Clemens, Tom Glavine, Randy Johnson, Greg Maddux, Pedro Martinez, John Smoltz RP. Mariano Rivera, Trevor Hoffman EDIT: removed Mussina, added Smoltz, Larkin and Hoffman 662255[/snapback] Some of those players will be HOFers but now know like Bagwell, Thomas, and Thome. I'd take out Vizquel, Larkin, Brown, Smoltz, and Hoffman...Edmonds is a bit borderline but will more than likely make it so long as he stays healthy and has a few good seasons.

He'll be well over 200 career wins by the time he retires and is practically a legend for his performance in the 2004 postseason. I think he's a shoo-in. 662723[/snapback] Well s***... I guess Livan is a first-ballot seeing as he was the NLCS and WS MVP in 1997... Schilling has less than 200 wins, no Cy Youngs, no ERA titles He wasn't near the pitcher that Koufax or Pedro were doing their prime, pitchers that well get in because of their dominance during a short stint. Schilling has been dominant of late, but not on their level.

Got to go with the Yanks...perhaps the only team that actually cares about how they are dressed on the field...facial hair included...

After the WS victory Schilling said something to the effect that they wouldn't have won had they swung the deal for A-Rod... A-Rod got busted but atleast he gave 100 percent on the play so to speak. Schilling is known for having a huge mouth and this is a guy that is a long shot to make it to the HOF