dawg31

Yes, they make good money, they live in nice homes, but it isnt an easy life the way you think. they have what, one day off a month? and sometimes that is a travel day. They are on the road constantly, they put in long hours, the stress level has got to be incredible, and they have no life of their own from febr 15-end of sept. no family reunions, no weddings, no funerals (unless parent etc). Not to mention the time and financial struggle put in during their minor league days, working for slave wages. I dont think you hear them complaining. They gave it all to be here, and they will get it together, cuz they are professionals!!!!!!

I am not so sure that you wont see Penny or Pavano, or both traded. These two guys are going to get some serious money And want a long term deal, if the fo feels like they cant sign these two, whats the point, even with Penny for 1 yr, once again you are renting a player, they will trade them cuz their trade value is high. Both would love to stay as they love south florida, but both want a multi year deal.

By the way, his last start he threw almost nothing but fastballs.

I think maybe the mets fans are really exited about coming to pps, because the Marlins are slumping, they have been given a ray of hope! Cant beat us when we are playing at the top of our game. Its ok, let them have their fun, we dont have to talk smack, we just beat em when it counts!!!!!!1

Not to mention that the offense has scored 1 run in his last 34 innings pitched!! Think maybe that puts a little extra pressure on the pitcher? He probably goes out thinking if I give up 1 run, we cant win. His run support is just about the lowest in the nl.

Part of the problem with Penny's last start had alot to do with the game he pitched before that. He was 2-3 pitches away from being fully warm when they had the 3 1/2 hour rain delay. I was shocked that they let him pitch, usually, in a rain delay, if the pitcher has sat for an hour, they wont let him go in. Penny throws full throttle when warming up, then to sit that long and warm up again? Anyway, he sd his last start his arm felt really tight and he couldnt get things working. But sd besides this spider bite, he feels really good.

I talked to Brad last night and he was feeling better, the meds they gave him were like $1250.00 for 10 pills!!! Anyway, he sd he "GOT THE CORE OUT HIMSELF" and it hurt like hell, he is seeing the doctor this morning so we should know more soon.

If Loria says no, it means no, are you kidding me? No never means no in mlb!!!

hopefully he will be ok and these new meds will work, they did move his next start to sunday. Maybe after the all star break, everyone will be rested and this will all turn around. Boy, when it rains it pours huh?

Penny has two spider bites on his leg and has been on antibiotics for 4 days, the doctor looked at it yesterday and sent him to get an even stronger one. Said if it doesnt get better by wednesday, they will put him in the hospital. Apparently his leg is really swollen and very painful. Our woes continue........

I know this has been discussed for several days, my question was, did anyone hear this on sports center last night? Do you really think because Loria sd it wasnt going to happen that it wont? Trust me, they. and any other team would trade their grandmother if it was for the right price.

I got a call last night that a friend heard on sports center that the Marlins are working or considering a trade of Penny and Gonzo for Normar. I talked to Penny about it and he had heard it too, maybe since things arent going so well, they are going to trade some of the guys like Penny and Pavano, I wouldnt be surprised if both those guys are gone. Tade value is high and we arent doing what we need to be doing. Penny said he really would like to stay in Florida, he really loves it, but you go where you gotta go. Anyone else heard anything like this?

Jonnylons, I guess youre not quite as smart as you think you are. A) I am not new here. Seems most people But you knew that. B) Your stats arent showing earned run average, and the whole picture, seems most people BUT you knew that too, !!!! So maybe you best be quiet????

Penny has not had a BAD outing all year, its pretty sad when a pitcher gives up 3 runs and its called a bad outing. That is a solid start and should be enough to win a game. His era has been very low all year, he had two games where he didnt have his best stuff, still fought through it and recvd no run support from the offense. He has been in the top 5 in era leaders all season. Please, where do you get that he hasnt pitched that well until the last start. I guess he needs to be perfect every time out to please some people.

Penny has pitched better than his win loss record shows, even Mckeon stated that, he has no control over the lack of runs that the office scores. I think Carl and Brad should go. Brads era and other stats are better. He has shown all star qualities this year and I feel he should be rewarded for this year and what was done in the world series. In my opinion, he has made the most improvement in all areas this year. He has changed just about everything that anyone complained about, and I feel he is an all star. Carl is very deserving also. He has been awesome.

Could it be that we arent trading for a bat because of the cost involved to keep our pitching staff together??? Its not going to be cheap. Pavs is a free agent, Penny will be at the end of next year which means they will probably try to work a deal with him before then. Its true, we need a bat and we need a spark plug, like pudge. Sorry but I really miss him, I think that has definately hurt us.

I for one miss Pudge, yes Red has done a great job, but he isnt the everyday catcher that Pudge is. I also think that Pudge was an anchor for this team. Not to mention we could sure use his bat. As far as the money thing, its a business, put yourself in his place, he felt like he deserved that kind of money, and he got it. Would you turn it down?? Now that school is out the family can join him, so they had to suffer thru a few months, alot of people do that with regular jobs. I think he felt disrespected. Anyway, I miss him.

I say Penny because of his past record, because he was such a big part of our world series championship, because he has worked so hard to improve and most of all because he deserves it. I also think Pavs has been very good, and I would like to see them both go. You know they are pretty good buddies.

Penny isnt a fa this year, however, they are going to have to sign him to multi year deal this year (to avoid arbitration) or trade him. You could say that this might as well be his fa year. If they dont sign him to a multi year deal, then they wont be able to the following year and will use him for trade bait, especially since he is having such an awesome year. I think they should go ahead and do it, (if they can afford to) and show good faith and loyalty to a player. I think Penny would much rather stay in fla. He loves it there. Fishes all the time. Loves to pitch at pps.

Brad is making more than that this year, If he keeps pitching the way he has been, this will be the same as his free agency year, especially if we are not in contention, they will want to trade while he his hot!!! Brad loves Florida, he fishes everyday, I know he would like to stay there if at all possible.

Hey thanks you guys, I have been reading alot of good things you have been posting about Penny. You are seeing now what I have been telling you he was capable of, it just took some time, I think he has it figured out now. The game in Houston, he could have gone alot further if the ump had been calling the corners. The reason he had such a high pitch count was because he had so many 3-2, 3-1 counts, again because of the umpire. The ump was consistently bad, he called it that way for both sides. I really am hoping to see him in the All Star game this year. He played in the Futures All Star game the year he was traded to Florida.

Just a little fyi, Penny and Jack have a mutual respect for each other. The only time Brad got really upset was during the playoffs when he was pulled from the rotation and then, only because everyone else was told before he was. I tend to agree with that being the wrong way to go about it. As for getting mad and throwing a game. that is nonsense. I dont know any athlete who would do that. I heard that Jack told Brad he had alot of respect for him for speaking his mind when alot of guys wont, to keep from rocking the boat. It must be nice to be perfect and sit in judgement of people that you dont really know. He cant be too bad when some of his best buddies on the team are Pavano, Conine and Lowell.

Favorite, my man Penny. Least favorite. dont have one.

Maybe Cabs should have made the play, maybe Red should have been more agressive, maybe Penny shouldnt have walked anyone, we could go on and on. What it boils down to is WE ARE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OPPORTUNITIES TO SCORE RUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!Jack said we had 15 chances to make something happen and didnt. No one person should take the blame for this loss. Cabs shouldnt feel bad about one stickin play. Please, we cant score so if defense isnt perfect, pitchers arent perfect, we lose. I truly think the hitting will come around. Pitchers are always ahead of the batters at the start of the season, I think with the talent we have, it will all work out!!!!!!

Didnt Penny pitch a day game or two in spring and do really well? I am pretty sure he did. Also, get off the fat thing, he isnt fat, he is in the best shape he has ever been in. He had lost 15 lbs before spring training ever started and has lost more since. The guy is just huge, look at his neck, his hands etc. I just got back last week from florida. I was there for the home series, we had easter dinner at Penny's with his parents, grandmother, Pavano, Choi and his sister and a few other people. It was awesome.