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I bet you its Penny that will retaliate, he has the balls and its sort of an unspoken code of honor that no one comes in to our house and hits a player, especially not twice. If it happens, I bet the benches clear.

Thanks to all of you for your support and kind words, as far as Pavano, he has also done a tremendous job and is also a very nice guy!! Most of the guys on the team are. I think that is why there is such good chemistry. Johnnylons, I am not trying to create a bandwagon or anything else here, just a little respect for a great guy, who has had a great spring. He has struggled some in the past spring trainings, this year he didnt and he has been working on some pitches. As far as I am concerned, you arent exactly the kind of person I would care to have on my bandwagon anyway.

Hey, you arent alone in thinking that way, Jack even sd he thought Penny had been overlooked, Tommy Hutton sd basically the same thing today during the game. I know I sure think so. Thanks for the support.

I cant believe, my man pitches like a champion and nothing on this board? You guys really give him no respect at all, he came into spring training in great shape, very focused, has had the best spring ever and nothing. I give up!

So you guys still refuse to give him any credit. He didnt do anything to help get us to and win the world series??? I say if he hadnt come through, we wouldnt have won!!

Hey guys, I know none of you are as big a Brad Penny fan as I am, but I think this year you are going to see what I have been trying to tell you. I bet you now that he makes the all star team. He had an awesome outing today and is in the best shape he has ever been in.

The DUKE!!!!! Big Bad Brad Penny!!!!!

I keep trying to tell you guys that Penny isnt the jerk you keep saying he is, He really is cool guy. He really enjoys people, but they all have to be a little guarded at times. Stop with the beer belly comments, he doesnt drink that much beer. While he was home, he was very strict with his diet. Wouldnt even let his mom fix all his favorites, I hope someday you guys get a chance to know even a little of him. Maybe if you approach him with "you are a jerk attitude" he can pick up on that. As far as the comment about him never signing, thats totally untrue. I have been with him many times and watched him sign for long periods of time. I have seen him give little guys a glove, many balls, etc. There is one 11 year old girl who has his jersey, a glove, cleats, and many balls and signed pictures. Brad gave them all to her. Just because he doesnt sign your ball doesnt mean he never does. Did you see what he did before the game? How many he signed?? They cant sign everything everyone wants, its impossible.

I dont think this offer has been made to Brad, I dont know about Carl. Brad left last night to head back to Florida and I just put a call in to him to see if this is true, Will let you know.

Hey, does anyone have any idea where I can order Penny world series bobblehead? I am trying to help Penny's mom find at least three. She had ordered them from mlb after the series and they emailed her that they are out. She was getting one for Brad, his brother and her and his dad. I would appreciate any info you guys might have.

Penny starts game 1 per my source. Mckeon believes in him.

I think you are wrong, I think you will see Penny pitch in Chicago.

Here we go again, Penny has a couple of bad outings and he is trash. When he is good, everyone loves him. Fickle fans. Brad won 14 games and should have won more. How many games did he pitch awesome and get a no decision? Atlanta, against Wood? One unearned run beat him. We scored 0. There are others. Jack said he was going with his top two in games one and two. Obviously he sees beyond what the casual fan sees. Please let go of the Brad wont listen to the coaches crap. I was in San Fran and Mckeon and Penny were in the lobby having a great time. They get along really well. Yes they did butt heads in the beginning but that ended some time ago. Brad did not have command of his pitches last night. I dont think he was trying to just blow the ball by everyone. He threw his curve and changeup and neither were working. Remeber, Bonds never had a good post season till last year. Sosa hasnt been to awesome in post season play in the past either.

Why is it whenever Penny has a bad game, all of a sudden you guys can read his mind and make stupid comments like he didnt care? I saw a look of disappointment and frustration on his face. A pitcher only has so many pitches and if one or two of them arent working, you cant do anything about it. I talk to him everyday and no one wanted to win worse than he did. He knows he let the team and the fans down and he feels really bad. Not to mention he left himself down. When I talked to him after the game, he was really down. Somenone mentioned that they shouldnt pitch Beckett and Penny back to back, to similar with the fastball etc. Time one the first night and the opponent is ready the next night. I agree and have wondered why they continue to do this.

Brad was out there because he was supposed to be. In the bullpen he felt a little tightness, no pain. All pitchers have tightness from time to time. After a few pitches it works out. When he saw that it wasnt going away, he left the game. He is not stupid. He knows his arm is his livelyhood. Cant you guys ever give anyone the benefit of doubt?

I seriously doubt that Burnett will be a Marlin next year. Penny will probably be gone too. Who knows what the rotation will look like. As we all know, nothing ever stays the same.

from what my source told me, its a no. sorry

I was told that the deal for Drew has been on going for the last 3 weeks and that the Marlins just pulled the plug on the deal. Also, Diamondback Dave Delucchi (sp) just got a call during dinner that he was traded to New York.

Penny's is Voodoo Child.

Just a little tidbit, Boston is making alot of noise about Penny, and yesterday the word was the Mets are now very interested. Dont know if any deal will come down but I wouldnt be surprised if he isnt hear after July.

Or maybe its because they hadnt hit worth a #@$% the last two games and came out and exploded. I have seen many teams do that including the Marlins.

You couldnt be more wrong about Penny not caring. No one cares more than this guy. I talked to him after the game and he was very upset. He felt really bad for the team as he lost that early lead. He said they just hit everything he threw, good or bad. He did throw pitches other than the fast ball right down the middle. I guess since you dont know him personally, you see some gesture that makes you think he doesnt care, knowing him the way I do, I saw an upset Brad that wasnt able for whatever reason, to take command. As far as Mckeon and Penny, the relationship is fine. As for the comment that maybe he wants to be traded, thats why he pitched poorly, that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. First of all, he loves Florida. Second, if that were the case, pitching poorly is not the way to go about it. If he could have pitched a no hitter last night he would have. He is very aware of era, etc. For those of you that are ready to trade him or send him to the bullpen, consider this tidbit. If Aj is out 1 1/2 years, he comes back with only a half season, he probably will take a little time to get back in the groove after not pitching for so long, then he has one year left on his contract. I wouldnt be surprised if the Marlins "Dont" yes I said "DONT" tender his contract.

No one in baseball thinks Penny is damaged goods. It was a vicious rumor. I think he has proven it to be false. I spoke to a head scout in Arlington, there scouting Penny, who said they want him really bad but cant get the Marlins to do a trade. He told me the press started that rumor and that his organization knows there is no truth to it. He was with the REDS.

You have the right to be wrong. His era is 3.74. Where I come from, that is not over 4.

Ed, your point is what makes me crazy, you cant compare apples to oranges. Mulder and Zito have alot of run support. I know that the season before last Brad had the lowest run support in all of the national league. Maddox made a comment that I think makes alot of sense. Its not his job to win the game. Its his job to try and make each pitch count. Look at what happened to Mulder against the fish, are the fans yelling trade him or he is crap? I dont think so. I am not trying to bash anyone but I think there are alot of factors to consider. Fan support for one, the papers are pretty good at bashing the team. As far as mediocrity, I think Brad is above mediocre. Put him on a team scoring alot of runs and see what happens. How many no decisions does he have that he should have won? That record of 30 wins and 28 losses changes. Aj or Josh have a bad game and no one is screaming trade them. It just gets really old.