The Big Hurt

This is an obvious observation... statistics wise, he is going to have a far worse year... With far less protection and less men on base he will have less hits, HRs, and RBIs. However, with so many bad pitches, he will probably have more walks.... His hits, RBIs, and HRs stats will all surely suffer... This is the reason that some fans, speculating that management had no intention of signing Migue long term, wanted to trade him now with value maxed out.

If they would just keep the Mermaids up in sec 449 the whole game....dancing... i think that would ameliorate the tension... lol also, this guy must be a smart guy using words like "ameliorate".... he must have just graduated from UM recently....lol..... Congrats Tank!!!!!!!

''In that photo he kinda looks like a midget version of Barry Bonds'' LOL, :lol FUNNY!!!! :lol :lol :lol

Reading the line... "Sigining them long term appears unlikely"... makes me think then what is the point of keeping them around. Trust me, no one wants to see those two here more than me... I love those guys. But from a FO perspective, if you they know that they will not be signed long term.... They have to trade them sooner or later..... Right now their value is at their highest... Willis is not going to have another 20 win season... and Migue is a high as can be with his age and ability. I mean, I really dont want to see these two go... Im still depressed about the whole situation... I am just surprised that they have not traded them yet.... Even though I am not advocating this in any way... I wouldnt be surprised if they do trade them during this offseason... And I dont buy into "Management has said it's very likely Willis and Cabrera will return in 2006"... Why?... Just ask Delgado... Damn you FO! um sorry to crash your emo parade but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if Willis staysy healthy for his career and pitches another 15 full seasons he's going to have 13 with 15 or more wins and he'll win 20 games at least 3-4 more times, and the thing is is that he's capable to win 20 games every year for the next 15 years so don't make ignorant comments like that. and with cabrera, the kid is only getting better. he's up in hitting ranks with albert pujols, joe d, teddy ballgame so you should really educate yourself furthermore. You claim to be Boog... but you are obviously not him.... OF COURSE... i know that Willis and Cabrera are going to have great careers.... and I am certain that he will have many more 20 game seasons... but if you knew anything about baseball... you would know that for his remainder here in South Florida.... chances are that he will not win 20 games again because of the team around him.... He is simply not going to get the run support and defense he needs to win 20 games...and if you think that is going to happen when a team is going to strugle to win 60 games next year, then you got another thing coming.. About Migue.... All i am saying that AS A MARLIN..... this is going to be one of his best seasons as a marlin.....first, he is loosing a lot of protection... he will also be walked ALOT.... and he is not going to get the same RBI opportunities that he did last year.... All I am saying.... that as MARLINS... their stock is as high as they will probably be.... they are young, cheap, and very talented with great 2005 seasons behind them.... i am not saying that they are not great players or that they will not have better seasons.... The way things are going around here, I just will not be surprised if they are traded in the offseason.... even though I would hate it.... Think about what people meant in their post... before you type your arrogant "lack of baseball knowledge" comments...

Reading the line... "Sigining them long term appears unlikely"... makes me think then what is the point of keeping them around. Trust me, no one wants to see those two here more than me... I love those guys. But from a FO perspective, if you they know that they will not be signed long term.... They have to trade them sooner or later..... Right now their value is at their highest... Willis is not going to have another 20 win season... and Migue is a high as can be with his age and ability. I mean, I really dont want to see these two go... Im still depressed about the whole situation... I am just surprised that they have not traded them yet.... Even though I am not advocating this in any way... I wouldnt be surprised if they do trade them during this offseason... And I dont buy into "Management has said it's very likely Willis and Cabrera will return in 2006"... Why?... Just ask Delgado... Damn you FO!

Two Reasons why I am going to the games... 1) I love the sport, regardless if its an all-star or a minor league team playing... 2) This might be the last times I see a MLB game down here.... I HAVE to go and enjoy it while it lasts... Is like if someone you know is dying, and you just want to spend as much time with them as possible... sad but true...

IF we trade Pierre... I want Felix Pie in return... No Exceptions....

My Choice is Tony Pena.... But I REALLY like Girardi's personality, demeanor, and attitude...

Tony Pena.... if not... Girardi

TRADE HIM!!! He is done... He has been super cold for the past season and a half... Scouts have said that he has lost 5mph off his swing... thats huge for a MLB hitter... it is evident that even his doubles that in the past were off the wall, are now just gappers.... Sorry to say this, this is probably another case of steroids.... (just look at Bret Boone) Giambi was a WHOLE different story... Giamby had to go through injuries, diseases, and the steroid admittance media monster.... After all that, I'm surprised he is even in the bigs at this point... Im happy for Giamby...

1..... White Sox... (Frank Thomas is my IDOL) 2..... Oakland (Steinbach and Bash Brothers) 3..... Reds (Chris Sabo and Eric Davis were the sh*t...)

I don't know. On one hand, you could say that he got the 2003 Royals to be a great story, on the other hand, you could say that he allowed the 2004 Royals to be either underachievers or in line with their talent, meaning that either 2003 was a fluke or that Pena just let the guys slack off. However, he's the ani-McKeon in every sense of the word, so if the Marlins are going to take a mulligan on this season and play for a do-over next year, putting Pena in there may be a real "put up or shut up" to the players. Intriguing choice, but not my #1. Listen... you want to know the reason Pena could not do anything with the Royals in '04... Let see... 1) Carlos Beltran only played in 69 games in '04 and hit 15HRs, 51 RBIs, and a .278 avg... 2) Mike Sweeney only played a 106 games.... 3) Look at their average everyday line up... 1B Ken Harvey 2B Tony Graffanino 3B Joe Randa SS Angel Berroa LF Dee Brown CF David DeJesus RF Abraham Nunez DH Mike Sweeney SP Darrell May SP Brian Anderson SP Jimmy Gobble SP Zack Greinke SP Mike Wood CL Jeremy Affedlt -Only SP that had less than an ERA of 5 was Greinke.... not to mention that the player that played the most games was Angel Berroa with 134 games played. The rest of the players averaged 100 games. The reason that Tony Pena quit at the end of the season, was because he knew that the team had absolutely no talent and the team was going no where after trading Beltran.... Pena is an excellent coach.... he showed it in '03 winning AL Manager of the Year... Try coaching at KC and see if you can do any better...

I'm looking for someone to explain to me why everyone wants Tony Pena as a manager. Is he young? Yes. Let's examine what he's done. In 2002 he went 49-77 after taking over the team. In 2003 the team went 83-79, shocking just about everyone in the world. Last year, they went 58-104, and this year, before he resigned, they were 8-25. What does this mean? It means that either 2003 was a complete fluke, or he managed well in 2003 and for some reason couldn't after that. Either way, those are not desirable qualities. If you are so dead set on having a young Latin manager, then bring in Fredi Gonzalez. He knows some of the players and always seemed to fit in in Florida, not to mention he's had to have picked something up from Bobby these last three years. But ideally, in my opinion, Ken Macha is the man this team needs, and you need to look no farther back than this season with the A's. But we will anyway. After Art Howe left Macha rode the A's to a 96-66 record, a first place finish. The leading batting average on this team? Eric Chavez, .282. Miguel Tejada, .278, was next. Their full lines: .282/29/101, .278/27/106. No one had more than 10 stolen bases. Their pitching was a different story, of course. Keith Foulke had 43 saves and a 2.08 ERA and their top four starters had ERAs of 2.70, 3.13, 3.30, and 4.34, with records of 16-7, 14-12, 15-9, and 12-10, respectively. In 2004 the team went 91-71, finishing second but not making the playoffs. Would you believe me when I tell you that on a team that won 91 games, the two leading hitters were Erubiel Durazo and Mark Kotsay? No one hit more than 29 homers or drove in more than 88 runs, but they did have 5 players with 20 or more homers and another two that had 15. Their pitching was mediocre: 4.43, 4.48, 4.71, 3.99, and 3.53, with records of 17-8, 11-11, 11-12, 11-7, and 12-6. Mark Mulder started only 27 games. And then there was this year. Their "disappointing season," as claimed after the closer by ESPN.com, finished at 88-74. The team opened with a 17-32 record and went 71-42 for the last 5 months. Five starters finished with 10 wins. Their records were 12-12, 14-12, 14-13, 10-9, and 10-5, with ERAs of 3.53, 3.73, 3.86, 4.17, and 2.53. Rich Harden (10-5, 2.53) only started 19 games due to injury. Their closer was a rookie who saved 23 games. Their catcher hit NO home runs in 601 ABs, batting .271. Their best hitter, Eric Chavez, hit .269 with a .329 OBP (after a .397 one in 04) with 27 homers and 101 RBI. Nick Swisher hit 21 homers, but he hit .236 along with it. But Macha made it work. Despite the injuries to their top hitter from the previous season, Erubiel Durazo, multiple injuries to their star young shortstop Bobby Crosby, and injuries to arguably their best pitcher in Rich Harden, Macha made it work. Imagine what he could have done with a team where four regulars batted over .300, a leadoff hitter had 57 steals, two hitters had 33 homers and 115 and 116 RBI, and had injuries to a shortstop who hit .264 whose replacement actually ended up with the fourth most home runs on the team, a catcher who hit .283 (but actually had 6 home runs), and all this DESPITE a big name player hitting .236 with 8 home runs. Not to mention a reliever with 40 saves and an ERA under 2 until the last game, a starter with 22 wins and a Cy Young candidate, two other pitchers with 3.38 and 3.44 ERAs, a rookie starter with a 4.03 ERA, and all THAT despite injuries to the opening day closer and set up man, AND a number three starter who pitched in 17 games with an ERA of 6.64. Look at any of the three of those A's teams and tell me the Marlins team of 2005 wasn't better on paper. Macha year after year took players who were not big name stars and turned them into a 90-win ballclub. There's no reason he couldn't do the same here. He's 55 years old, so he's not "old," and he isn't of the same school as McKeon. He'll cost a little over a million...big deal. He'll cost a few thousand more than Pena would. So I ask you...why not Macha? Listen... you want to know the reason Pena could not do anything with the Royals in '04... Let see... 1) Carlos Beltran only played in 69 games in '04 and hit 15HRs, 51 RBIs, and a .278 avg... 2) Mike Sweeney only played a 106 games.... 3) Look at their average everyday line up... 1B Ken Harvey 2B Tony Graffanino 3B Joe Randa SS Angel Berroa LF Dee Brown CF David DeJesus RF Abraham Nunez DH Mike Sweeney SP Darrell May SP Brian Anderson SP Jimmy Gobble SP Zack Greinke SP Mike Wood CL Jeremy Affedlt -Only SP that had less than an ERA of 5 was Greinke.... not to mention that the player that played the most games was Angel Berroa with 134 games played. The rest of the players averaged 100 games. The reason that Tony Pena quit at the end of the season, was because he knew that the team had absolutely no talent and the team was going no where after trading Beltran.... Pena is an excellent coach.... he showed it in '03 winning AL Manager of the Year... Try coaching at KC and see if you can do any better... I state the rest of my case the posting of TONY PENA - New Marlins Skipper...

Give me Pena!

If only it would be the official award.... But nice to see the respect...