WildMarlinMan2003 Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 is Nate Bump dating Beinfest's daughter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted June 16, 2004 Author Share Posted June 16, 2004 *knocks cup* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 I think this may have been McKeon's request. :confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishin2004 Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Makes no sense whatsoever. Have to give Phelps more than 1 chance back out of the pen. there just has to be a reason - injury, attitude, etc. seems too arbitrary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heckeroo Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 wow. why? i think beinfest knows something we don't, that's the only logical reason *holds out hope* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBMarlin Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 From Rotoworld: Marlins purchased the contract of RHP Josias Manzanillo from Triple-A Albuquerque. Manzanillo had a 5.25 ERA in 12 innings since being signed to a minor league deal last month. There's little reason for optimism that this is going to work out well. Jun. 16 - 5:07 p Marlins optioned LHP Tommy Phelps to Triple-A Albuquerque. It's pretty surprising that the Marlins have decided to keep Ben Howard, Toby Borland and Mike Neu over Phelps , who was pretty effective as a reliever before struggling in two of his four starts. He'll be back. Jun. 16 - 5:11 pm et I agree totally with Rotoworld's assessment of both these moves. Tejera for Bump would have made more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer_fran Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Makes no sense whatsoever. Have to give Phelps more than 1 chance back out of the pen. there just has to be a reason - injury, attitude, etc. seems too arbitrary. well, I don't think it's his attitude, I've heard he's one of the nicest guys in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accord Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Is this guy in MVP Baseball? I really don't wanna make another person. >__> Let's remember guys, IN JACK WE TRUST! No he's not, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libelula Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Is this guy in MVP Baseball? I really don't wanna make another person. >__> Let's remember guys, IN JACK WE TRUST! No he's not, lol. I found him on the Reds. Woo! On topic, this is a STUPID move. Phelps barely had a chance in the BP. Bump pitched his way to the minors, not Phelps. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 I think what hurt Phelps was that he walked the batter last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTrizzle Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 I honestly don't think Bump is that bad of a pitcher. He just has extremely s***ty luck and always comes in bad situations... One example would be that crappy infield hit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 I think Bump is put in the wrong situations. McKeon has not used our bullpen correctly. Overmanaging too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marlin Man Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 i dunno whats going on, but i'd have to believe there is something we dont know about i guess i've learned not to questiong beinfest....but......what the hell Admin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marlin Man Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 I think Bump is put in the wrong situations. McKeon has not used our bullpen correctly. Overmanaging too much. i dont think its that he isn't using them correctly...... i think its that he doesnt have any options so he is forced to misuse guys now, this is for the most part he should have left howard in there yesterday, that was overmanaging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 He should have left Howard in and let him last the 7th inning. Let Bump start the 8th. Brought in Armando to close the 9th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Bump cannot be put in a pressure situation. he has to start with a clean slate of his own. He brought in Borland (who got the loss) when he should have used Bump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 bump has walked a batter almost every other inning. his control as well as most of the pen's control has flat out sucked. that is why he sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Bump got the out. I think if he is only used to start an inning, it would be alot better. Let him get himself out of his own jams, not others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minus Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 WTF! Sent down Phelps over this SCRUB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Bump got the out. I think if he is only used to start an inning, it would be alot better. Let him get himself out of his own jams, not others. he is a reliever. relievers are supposed to get out of other people's jams also. thats the nature of the damn job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Bump got the out. I think if he is only used to start an inning, it would be alot better. Let him get himself out of his own jams, not others. he is a reliever. relievers are supposed to get out of other people's jams also. thats the nature of the damn job. Das, he can't handle it. I don't get why he starts innings with Borland who can't get the job done completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Surprising Phelps was sent down. He has been shelled over the past few weeks and the upcoming schedule isn't very favorable to him in that hasn't done well against batters he's never faced before. But if you're going to send down a lefty, it should be Perisho. Bump should be traded. He's a good kid, but Jack, the defense and Pro Player's short infield grass aren't doing anything to help him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 I like Bump to improve, but Jack needs to manage our bullpen better. If he doesn't, we need to keep it together because there is talent there and Jack will retire after the year is over. The bullpen other than the lack of Armando, Pooper Looper, Helling, Borland, Howard and Urbina, was the same in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fauowls44 Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 I agree. McKeon isn't misusing this bullpen, it just isn't very good. He's searching for anyone besides Benitez that can come in, throw strikes and get outs. As for today's move, i'm willing to give anyone a shot. Tejera not getting the call up doesn't really bother me. Everyone hated the guy last year, so why are you so upset that he's not up this year? Plus he's a lefty and if they were going to keep a third lefty in the pen, they would not have sent down Phelps. They will still have to make a few more moves this week with Beckett and Wayne coming back. So what is everyone's thoughts on who's next on the plane back to Albuquerque? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBMarlin Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Neu and Bump for Beckett and Wayne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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