The Marlins' offer to Carlos Delgado is worth more than $30 million for three years.

That shouldn't be enough. After the Carlos Beltran matter is decided, some team should step up with a four-year proposal to Delgado worth $12 million-$13 million per season. -Rotoworld

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Lets hope the lure of Miami can overcome the financial differences.

Lest we forget that there are no state income taxes in Florida as well.

Lest we forget that there are no state income taxes in Florida as well.

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There isn't one in Texas either. I know the state and local taxes in NY for someone making that much money would probably be at least 10 percent (probably closer to 15 percent). So give the Marlins a 10-15 percent discount compared to NY. So our offer of 30 million is really like 33-35 million in NY. Plus, take the cost of living into account... (although for someone that rich the cost of living really doesn't make any difference).

Lest we forget that there are no state income taxes in Florida as well.

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There isn't one in Texas either. I know the state and local taxes in NY for someone making that much money would probably be at least 10 percent (probably closer to 15 percent). So give the Marlins a 10-15 percent discount compared to NY. So our offer of 30 million is really like 33-35 million in NY. Plus, take the cost of living into account... (although for someone that rich the cost of living really doesn't make any difference).

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I don't think he'll be able to not stand for God Bless America in NY or Texas.

Lest we forget that there are no state income taxes in Florida as well.

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There isn't one in Texas either. I know the state and local taxes in NY for someone making that much money would probably be at least 10 percent (probably closer to 15 percent). So give the Marlins a 10-15 percent discount compared to NY. So our offer of 30 million is really like 33-35 million in NY. Plus, take the cost of living into account... (although for someone that rich the cost of living really doesn't make any difference).

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I don't think he'll be able to not stand for God Bless America in NY or Texas.

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You think he could away with it in Miami too? I can't think of one MLB city in the country where he could get away with it.

Lest we forget that there are no state income taxes in Florida as well.

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There isn't one in Texas either. I know the state and local taxes in NY for someone making that much money would probably be at least 10 percent (probably closer to 15 percent). So give the Marlins a 10-15 percent discount compared to NY. So our offer of 30 million is really like 33-35 million in NY. Plus, take the cost of living into account... (although for someone that rich the cost of living really doesn't make any difference).

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I think its more than that once you factor in other NY taxes. I don't know what its like in Baltimore, but the NYY/NYM have to offer a much bigger deal for him to end up banking the same kind of money.

Lest we forget that there are no state income taxes in Florida as well.

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There isn't one in Texas either. I know the state and local taxes in NY for someone making that much money would probably be at least 10 percent (probably closer to 15 percent). So give the Marlins a 10-15 percent discount compared to NY. So our offer of 30 million is really like 33-35 million in NY. Plus, take the cost of living into account... (although for someone that rich the cost of living really doesn't make any difference).

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I think its more than that once you factor in other NY taxes. I don't know what its like in Baltimore, but the NYY/NYM have to offer a much bigger deal for him to end up banking the same kind of money.

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I worked in NYC last summer, and you have to pay state and local taxes. I think I paid around 12 percent for those... I imagine for someone making as much money as Delgado will make probably pay about 15-16... I doubt they get up to 20 percent because when you factor in the 31 percent in federal taxes, social security taxes, and medicaid/medicaid, you would be looking at around 60 percent. I don't think there is a single jurisdiction in the US where you would pay 60 percent in income taxes/other taxes on salary or wages earned.

 

 

Also, in MD, the tax rate is as high or higher than NYC. I know ppl that work there... and they don't appreciate how many taxes they pay.

in Beltran's case... they were saying that $118 million by Houston w/ tax equal the Mets offering about $100 million

in Beltran's case... they were saying that $118 million by Houston w/ tax equal the Mets offering about $100 million

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... so you're saying the Mets would have to offer $118 million to match the Astros offer of $100 million?

the opposite.... I believe they said that $118 was the same as $100 by the Mets.... because of Houston taxes

How much more did Pavano make by signing with the Yankees then? How much of his 10 million per year would go to taxes? I wonder if agents are telling players this stuff. We should have a huge advantage over other teams.

The players know.

 

When you're being paid that much, it's not about what additional dollars you can squeeze out of an owner. It's about how you're paid relative to your peers (respect) and setting the market for your brethren.

the opposite.... I believe they said that $118 was the same as $100 by the Mets.... because of Houston taxes

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No, that's wrong. There are no state or local income taxes in Texas, and NY taxes the shiat out of you. It's the opposite of what you said.

Only 4 teams have the advantage on no state/provincial income tax:

Florida Marlins

Houston Astros

Tampa Bay Devil Rays

Texas Rangers

Where is Ed when you need him...

Where is Ed when you need him...

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Hiding in Admin Beinfest's broom closet text messaging Admin. :shifty

the opposite.... I believe they said that $118 was the same as $100 by the Mets.... because of Houston taxes

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How is that possible? It has to be 100 mil for Houston is 118 mil for New York.

the opposite.... I believe they said that $118 was the same as $100 by the Mets.... because of Houston taxes

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How is that possible? It has to be 100 mil for Houston is 118 mil for New York.

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I concur with the Juankster. No way Houston has that much sales taxes.

In NYC it takes $118 million to match the take home pay of $100 million in Texas or Florida

In NYC it takes $118 million to match the take home pay of $100 million in Texas or Florida

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Exactly right. So I guess that means state and local taxes in NY are about 15 percent at that income bracket., plus the 35 percent in federal taxes. Roughly the same in Maryland...

 

So assuming 35 percent in federal income, medicare, and social security taxes... our offer of $33 million means $21.45 million take home. So in NYC (and Baltimore), Delgado will pay 50 percent in federal, state, and local taxes... they have to offer him $42.9 million to have a take home of $21.45 million. This is great for us.

Maryland is not much better, maybe 2% lower depending on what they are chargin in sports franchise tax these days.

Somehow, I get the feeling that this is just BS negotiations that will never amount to anything, just to make the fans think the Marlins FO is actually trying. This reeks of the Vlad Guerrero negotiations we had.

 

PROVE ME WRONG BEINFEST, PROVE ME WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Delgado's hitting chart at pro player stadium(just replace skydome with pro player)

 

:plain

Somehow, I get the feeling that this is just BS negotiations that will never amount to anything, just to make the fans think the Marlins FO is actually trying. This reeks of the Vlad Guerrero negotiations we had.

 

PROVE ME WRONG BEINFEST, PROVE ME WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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First of all it doesn't appear that the story came from the Marlins but rather from Delgado's agent who seems to find a new suitor every few days. From what I've read Beinfest and the FO refused comment.

 

While I'm pessimistic that anything will come from this I'm not cynical regarding the organization's intentions. They just may be overmatched by other more deep-pocketed teams. I never believed for a minute that the Fish had a chance to land Vlad and in all honesty I'm not sure the chances here are much better.

 

But at least they're trying.

 

To some extent it depends on what happens with the B boys - Beltre and Beltran. Where they land could significantly increas the Marlins chances of signing Delgado or could dash their hopes.

 

Right now, with hours left before the next deadline, I wonder what other moves the Marlins are pondering?

Marlins don't play the Blow Jays all the time, esp. at PPS