The Marlins can get creative here, If they do want to go with the full 70 Million this year, that means they have ~ 7 to play with. If they can somehow dump the conine salary that gives them a bit more to play with with. A three year deal could look something like this.

 

 

Year 1: 11,000,000

Year 2: 12,500,000

Year 3: 13,500,000

 

 

Total: 3/37

Marlins bid for slugger Carlos Delgado

 

By Mike Berardino

Staff writer

Posted January 8 2005

 

The Marlins couldn't convince David Dellucci or Tino Martinez to come to South Florida this winter.

 

Undeterred, club officials have set their sights substantially higher in the search for a left-handed bat, entering the bidding for former Toronto Blue Jays slugger Carlos Delgado.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

According to industry sources, the Marlins have offered a three-year deal in excess of $30 million for the left-handed hitting first baseman. Delgado, who makes his offseason home in Puerto Rico, is said to be giving the offer serious consideration.

 

David Sloane, the player's Coral Springs-based agent, would not confirm or deny the offer but did say he had talked this week to the club about Delgado.

 

"We have spoken to the Marlins," Sloane said late Friday night, "and we'll speak again."

 

Early offseason speculation about a possible Marlins bid proved baseless as the club went about filling holes in its bullpen and starting rotation. But early this week, Marlins General Manager Admin Beinfest called Sloane to express interest in Delgado.

 

By Thursday the Marlins had made a formal offer that was at least competitive with a previously reported bid from the Baltimore Orioles (three years, $30 million). The New York Mets, Texas Rangers and Los Angeles Dodgers are among Delgado's other suitors, with the Mets expected to stay in the running even if they land free-agent outfielder Carlos Beltran.

 

According to a source involved in the bidding, at least a half dozen teams are considered "viable candidates" to land Delgado, who made $68 million over the past four seasons. The Yankees, who signed Martinez in late December, aren't among those bidders.

 

With a projected payroll already higher than their 2005 budget of $60 million, the Marlins wouldn't seem to have the wherewithal to add a player of Delgado's ilk. But owner Jeffrey Loria has produced "special money" before to sign a perennial All-Star in January, that being catcher Pudge Rodriguez two years ago.

 

That deal, however, was for one year and was heavily deferred. Landing Delgado for the next three years would represent a far more serious investment.

 

It also would provide a massive power infusion to a lineup that finished 12th in the National League in home runs last season, 11th in runs and 12th in slugging. Delgado would immediately become the top lefty power threat in club history, surpassing Cliff Floyd.

 

Delgado, 32, finished second in the American League Most Valuable Player voting in 2003 and was fourth in 2000. He has averaged 36 home runs and 114 RBI the past nine seasons, hitting at least 38 homers five times.

 

Last year was the first time in five seasons he failed to top 100 walks.

 

Delgado has no particular ties to South Florida but he would be a short flight away from his family in Puerto Rico. He likes the area, a friend said, and has been in Miami at least twice this winter.

 

Signing Delgado would leave the Marlins with a logjam in the outfield, where Jeff Conine would return with Juan Encarnacion and his $4.45 million salary landing on the bench. The Marlins could seek to pair arbitration-eligible pitcher A.J. Burnett in a trade with Encarnacion that could free up as much as $8.5 million.

 

The Delgado bid is independent from the club's efforts to sign catcher Paul Lo Duca to a three-year extension in the $16 million to $18 million range. An agreement, according to someone familiar with the negotiations, is "very close."

 

COMEBACK TRAIL

 

Marlins right fielder Juan Encarnacion, coming off surgery on his left (non-throwing) shoulder, is home in the Dominican Republic and working with Edgar Diaz, the former trainer for Ivan Rodriguez.

 

According to agent Eric Goldschmidt, Encarnacion has started swinging a bat and expects to be ready for the start of spring training.

 

"From all he's told me, everything is good," Goldschmidt said.

 

Encarnacion is due $4.45 million in 2005 and can be a free agent after the season, but the Marlins have been unable to move his contract.

 

Mike Berardino can be reached at mberardino@sun-sentinel.com

he won't take 3 years at 36 per, but it would be nice if he did

 

according to his agent, he wants mre than beltre (5 years 64 mill)

 

:plain Good luck to him on that one

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I don't think anyone is going to give him anything close to what he wants. That might make the one year deal more plausible, his agent said that Delgado doesn't consider this his last opportunity to enter the market.

he won't take 3 years at 36 per, but it would be nice if he did

 

according to his agent, he wants mre than beltre (5 years 64 mill)

 

:plain Good luck to him on that one

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I don't think anyone is going to give him anything close to what he wants. That might make the one year deal more plausible, his agent said that Delgado doesn't consider this his last opportunity to enter the market.

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Let's hope so as a 1 year deal is probably the only chance we have of signing him.

The Marlins can get creative here, If they do want to go with the full 70 Million this year, that means they have ~ 7 to play with. If they can somehow dump the conine salary that gives them a bit more to play with with. A three year deal could look something like this.

 

 

Year 1: 11,000,000

Year 2: 12,500,000

Year 3: 13,500,000

 

 

Total: 3/37

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No need to get rid of Conine... He needs to retire as a Marlin. They made the mistake of trading him once... They better not do it again.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the Delgado signing is followed by a Burnett/Encarnacion trade to free up some more money. And I doubt the Marlins would want a 4th outfielder making over $4mil.

he won't take 3 years at 36 per, but it would be nice if he did

 

according to his agent, he wants mre than beltre (5 years 64 mill)

 

:plain Good luck to him on that one

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I don't think anyone is going to give him anything close to what he wants. That might make the one year deal more plausible, his agent said that Delgado doesn't consider this his last opportunity to enter the market.

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Let's hope so as a 1 year deal is probably the only chance we have of signing him.

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Ifthey pushed the 1 year up to about 14 million I bet that would get it done, but then where does the money come from? That would almost guarentee a AJ/Enc trade which will cover 8.5 mill of the 14. Then that would push the budget to about 70 million. And we would need a major league starter from the AJ trade.

Agreed, if it's 1-year only I imagine the price would be even higher. Maybe in the 13-15 range.

 

Man, we've been talking about a power lefty bat since Cliffy left... this is the ULTIMATE lefty power bat, and a real good guy to boot.

 

I'll be skeptical but wwwwwwooooooowwwwww.

 

Packaging Enc with Stokes for some team was an interesting thought someone came up with.... dunno if anyone would bite but it's a good option to try.

Atleast we know he likes the area and that he's somewhat interested :thumbup

Atleast we know he likes the area and that he's somewhat interested :thumbup

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I think any Latin player would like the area and would be interested in playing in Miami. Heck, anyone would like the area... it's beautiful. Last I checked, New York doesn't have the white sandy beaches or the beautiful bay that Miami has or the beautiful homes by the bay/ocean.

According to industry sources, the Marlins have offered a three-year deal in excess of $30 million for the left-handed hitting first baseman. Delgado, who makes his offseason home in Puerto Rico, is said to be giving the offer serious consideration.

 

That's the part that amazes me the most, really. We've never been the team to offer a big multiyear deal. Sign of things to come?

and he'll take into consideration that our 30 million is more than the orioles offer of 30 mill, with the luxury tax

 

and then if it's in excess of 30 mill, well, i think we have a chance...

and he'll take into consideration that our 30 million is more than the orioles offer of 30 mill, with the luxury tax

 

and then if it's in excess of 30 mill, well, i think we have a chance...

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Plus, it's Miami.

 

Everyone loves Miami.

 

It was 80 degrees on January 7th, who doesn't love Miami.

and he'll take into consideration that our 30 million is more than the orioles offer of 30 mill, with the luxury tax

 

and then if it's in excess of 30 mill, well, i think we have a chance...

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Plus, it's Miami.

 

Everyone loves Miami.

 

It was 80 degrees on January 7th, who doesn't love Miami.

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Phillies don't love Miami. :shifty

 

 

 

I love how we are actually opening up the wallet on a bonafide lefty power guy. This makes me all tingly inside.

Just to clarify, I am not saying Hicks is going broke or anything close. What I am saying is he is not rolling in money as he was a few years ago.

"Thomas O. Hicks, chairman and CEO of Dallas-based private equity firm Hicks, Muse, Tate & Furst, announced Monday that he would retire a year from now to focus on his personal investments. Hicks, Muse & Furst is still attempting to recover from big losses that it suffered from investments in telecommunications and Internet companies. Mr. Hicks is majority owner of the Dallas Stars NHL hockey club and the Texas Rangers MLB baseball club, both of which have their share of financial problems at this point."

If this thing goes through I need to have a defirbilator very nearby.

This just in:

 

Marlins offer Delgado one-year contract

 

 

TSN.ca Staff with files

 

 

 

1/8/2005

 

Two years removed from their second World Series victory, the Florida Marlins have entered the Carlos Delgado sweepstakes.

 

 

 

Multiple baseball sources report that the Marlins have offered Delgado a one-year contract believed to be at least $10 million US. A portion of the money is backloaded, similar to the one-year, $10 million contract that catcher Ivan Rodriguez signed in 2003.

 

 

 

Delgado's agent, David Sloane confirmed there were negotiations with the Marlins but would not comment on whether or not an offer had been made.

 

 

 

Related Info

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Delgado: Mets are an attractive option

 

"I have spoken to (General Manager) Admin Beinfest and I will no doubt be speaking to him again," Sloane told the Palm Beach Post. "I don't want to characterize the discussions as good, bad or indifferent, or anything that was said."

 

 

 

The Baltimore Sun reported Friday that the Orioles have persuaded Sloane to submit a contract proposal as a starting point for negotiations.

 

 

 

Last month, the Orioles made Delgado a three-year offer for less than $30 million.

 

 

 

The New York Mets and Texas Rangers are also interested in signing Delgado, who is believed to be seeking a four-or five-year deal worth upward of $15 million a season.

 

 

 

Delgado, 32, made $19.7 million last year while batting .269 with 32 home runs and 99 RBI.

if beinfest thinks 1 year 10 mill is gonna sign this guy, well...

It mentions "atleast". We can always backload that a*s.

seems to be a rumor about a 1-year offer and also one about a 3-year offer.

seems to be a rumor about a 1-year offer and also one about a 3-year offer.

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i'm hoping the ladder is the real one

Yeah it would be nice to tie this guy up for more than just one year.

It's a great deal if they can get him for 1-year with a player option for one more.

 

You get what will likely be his two most productive years at a good price while giving him the choice of returning or spurning the fans. If the Marlins wish to cut ties after that second year, they won't lose too much fan support with the new stadium and Miguel Cabrera's new contract.

Honestly i think we have a chance at him, a good one too. I can't explain it cuz its only a gut feeling, and uncontrollable denial. whatever the case WERE GETTING DELGADO.

secret money.. lol.. Lets hope Loria wins the powerball!!

The Marlins' offer to Carlos Delgado is worth more than $30 million for three years.

That shouldn't be enough. After the Carlos Beltran matter is decided, some team should step up with a four-year proposal to Delgado worth $12 million-$13 million per season. -Rotoworld