Marlins Senate War Room

[CapeFish]

Florida Senate

Alexander, JD

Argenziano, Nancy

Aronberg, Dave

Atwater, Jeffrey H. "Jeff"

Baker, Carey

Bennett, Michael S. "Mike"

Bullard, Larcenia J.

Campbell, Walter G. "Skip", Jr.

Carlton, Lisa

Clary, Charlie

Constantine, Lee

Crist, Victor D.

Dawson, M. Mandy

Diaz de la Portilla, Alex

Dockery, Paula

Fasano, Mike (1)

Garcia, Rudy (Senate Sponsor)

Geller, Steven A.

Haridopolos, Mike

Hill, Anthony C."Tony", Sr.

Jones, Dennis L., D.C.

King, James E. "Jim", Jr.

Klein, Ron

Lawson, Alfred "Al", Jr.

Lee, Tom

Lynn, Evelyn J.

Margolis, Gwen

Miller, Lesley "Les", Jr.

Peaden, Durell, Jr.

Posey, Bill

Pruitt, Ken

Rich, Nan

Saunders, Burt L.

Sebesta, Jim

Siplin, Gary

Smith, Rod

Villalobos, J. Alex

Webster, Daniel

Wilson, Frederica S.

Wise, Stephen R.

 

Supports

Doesn't Support

No information/Undecided

 

*All info based on Senate committee votes, press reports, contacts posted on this board, etc. All of my calculations may change at any time or be incorrect.

(1) Will vote for it if Marlins start random steroid testing

 

How A Bill Becomes Law

[CapeFish]

If anyone has updates on any Senator just post them in here. Please include a source. Thank You!

[MarlinatPenn]

Lee said 30 of 40 were opposed, so how can 11 be in favor? Was he lying?

[CapeFish]

Lee said 30 of 40 were opposed, so how can 11 be in favor? Was he lying?

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1 may be on the fence in his count. I count 11.

[Madman81]

Lee said 30 of 40 were opposed, so how can 11 be in favor? Was he lying?

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He just sucks.

[prinmemito]

Lee said 30 of 40 were opposed, so how can 11 be in favor? Was he lying?

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Maybe he meant that 30 had not committed themselves in favor of it. Which is a sneaky way of saying that 10 people support it and 30 were either against it or undecided.

[Guest Moneyball]

I highly doubt so many are opposed.

[drguava]

As I reported yesterday I spoke with senator Mike Fasano and he will not support this bill.

[FishFan24]

I sent an e-mail to Steven Geller, so hopefully he gets back to me soon.

[Boog Sciambi]

isnt' a 3/4 vote necessary? which means that 38 yes' are necessary.

[TheTwoJuans]

isnt' a 3/4 vote necessary? which means that 38 yes' are necessary.

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I think it would be 30, since I think there are 40 senators.

[SoFlaFish]

The information I got from an incredibly reliable source (none other than the Florida Senate Minority Leader and a partner here at my firm who I shot the breeze with for about 1/2 hour last week after his committee vote), the measure is facing a tough time in the Senate. He explains that the Sentate still has a bad taste in its mouth from the fact that Huizenga has TWO rebates for Joe Robbie Stadium and they are wary of handing out another rebate to the Fish. Furthermore, the Broward and Palm Beach delegation (in listening to their constituents) are not in favor of floating Miami-Dade County money. He told me that the opposition to this is coming from "monied interests" and "professionals" in their respective districts.

 

He told me the only way that he would support the rebate was if the money to Huizenga for the Marlins was stopped and transferred into the current rebate package to the Marlins.

 

He also told me that the prevailing attitude in the Senate is that this deal can get done without the state. They are $30M short and he said there is no way a deal can get scuttled over that "small" of a difference due to the rising real estate costs and the potential for redevelopment in the area. Rising real estate costs would be able to cover the $30M shortfall.

[Flag Man]

SoFlaFish, Reality occasionally sucks. But, we have to deal with it.

Thanks for your Posting and its perspectives.

[Miles Away...]

Just out of curiousity, does the latest stadium proposal in clude changing the name to the Miami Marlins? I hope not. If the state hlpes fund the stadium, it seems like it should remain Florida.

[gobucks]

I spoke to larcenia bullard's office on Wednesday night and they would not tell me which way she would vote but did say that the calls coming in are 50/50 in support or against the bill. Which tells you to call your state senator and call her. I am not sure that they ever check that you are really in their district. They are just keeping track of the callers.

[prinmemito]

He told me the only way that he would support the rebate was if the money to Huizenga for the Marlins was stopped and transferred into the current rebate package to the Marlins.

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Why don't they do that? It makes perfect sense. Huizenga is a crook.

[prinmemito]

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:lol :lol

[rolando8291]

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oh man u insulted the poor dolphin by calling hum tom lee... :mad just call him what we usually call him the biggest ahole in the world....

[TheTwoJuans]

Just out of curiousity, does the latest stadium proposal in clude changing the name to the Miami Marlins? I hope not. If the state hlpes fund the stadium, it seems like it should remain Florida.

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I think the bill that passed in the house stipulated that if they took the state funding that they would have to keep the name flordia marlins.

[rolando8291]

Just out of curiousity, does the latest stadium proposal in clude changing the name to the Miami Marlins?? I hope not.? If the state hlpes fund the stadium, it seems like it should remain Florida.

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I think the bill that passed in the house stipulated that if they took the state funding that they would have to keep the name flordia marlins.

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ok wanna ask this to u.ok here i go...suppose the senate votes no are we done??? it has to get by both the senate and house???

[prinmemito]

Just out of curiousity, does the latest stadium proposal in clude changing the name to the Miami Marlins?? I hope not.? If the state hlpes fund the stadium, it seems like it should remain Florida.

757807[/snapback]

 

I think the bill that passed in the house stipulated that if they took the state funding that they would have to keep the name flordia marlins.

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ok wanna ask this to u.ok here i go...suppose the senate votes no are we done??? it has to get by both the senate and house???

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It has to be approved by both chambers and if there are any differences they must collaborate and come up with a common bill and vote on it again. If they approve the common bill, then it must be signed by the Governor or the Gov. can just let it become law.

[TheTwoJuans]

but if it doesn't happen this year they can try again in the future when perhaps friendlier people to the marlins are in office.

[prinmemito]

but if it doesn't happen this year they can try again in the future when perhaps friendlier people to the marlins are in office.

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Yes, they definitely can. Next year, the new president of the Senate will be totally in favor of the bill (I think he is the one pushing the bill in the Senate right now) and the speaker of the House is also very in favor of it. The problem right now is that if the Marlins, the City, and County all decide to just start building the stadium and then try to get the money from the state again next year, the State will have basically no incentive to pass the bill. If they're already building it, the State might just assume it will get done with or without State funding. That's why it is critical it passes this year. The Senator that will become the Prez next session should just tell Tom Lee this bill will pass next year regardless of whether Lee supports it or not... might as well let it pass this session since it will definitely pass next session. This isn't necessarily accurate, but if the Senator is forceful and confident enough perhaps he can convince Lee. Or, perhaps the Senator can tell Lee he will back a particularly important bill for Lee next year if he supports this stadium deal. From what I saw that happened in the House, I think we have politically savvy people in the legislature supporting this bill... hope we can get this thing passed this year.

[rolando8291]

Just out of curiousity, does the latest stadium proposal in clude changing the name to the Miami Marlins?? I hope not.? If the state hlpes fund the stadium, it seems like it should remain Florida.

757807[/snapback]

 

I think the bill that passed in the house stipulated that if they took the state funding that they would have to keep the name flordia marlins.

757832[/snapback]

ok wanna ask this to u.ok here i go...suppose the senate votes no are we done??? it has to get by both the senate and house???

757834[/snapback]

 

It has to be approved by both chambers and if there are any differences they must collaborate and come up with a common bill and vote on it again. If they approve the common bill, then it must be signed by the Governor or the Gov. can just let it become law.

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thanks for the info....hey u know when the senate meeting is???

[OrlandoFish]

Just out of curiousity, does the latest stadium proposal in clude changing the name to the Miami Marlins?? I hope not.? If the state hlpes fund the stadium, it seems like it should remain Florida.

757807[/snapback]

 

I think the bill that passed in the house stipulated that if they took the state funding that they would have to keep the name flordia marlins.

757832[/snapback]

ok wanna ask this to u.ok here i go...suppose the senate votes no are we done??? it has to get by both the senate and house???

757834[/snapback]

 

It has to be approved by both chambers and if there are any differences they must collaborate and come up with a common bill and vote on it again. If they approve the common bill, then it must be signed by the Governor or the Gov. can just let it become law.

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My question is will be Loria be patient enough to wait if it doesn't happen this year or will he pick up his toys and go play in someone elses backyard.