Iowa Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 We're replacing 7 of our 8 offensive starters from last year: Delgado, Enc, Sea Bass, JP, Luis, Lowell, LoDuca Their numbers: 74 HR, 428 RBI (Average Player: .278 BA, 10 HR, 60 RBI) I want you guys to estimate the numbers of Hermida, Willingham and Jacobs... and then add in the numbers of Hanley and Conine (wishful assumption).. and then just assume the average numbers of whoever we're putting at CF and 2B and see how those numbers stack up against the guys we're replacing. Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinGuru Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 The Powerhouse: Cabrera .310 40HR 125RBI (I'm really expecting him to step it up a bit) Hermida .290 30HR 100RBI (He showed that he can hit, and with that swing I don't see why he can't hit 30HR, the iffy will be his average.) Jacobs .??? 30HR ??? (In 100 AB's he showed that he has tremendous power.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinatPenn Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 defninitely more power I would say... P-Lo, A-Gon and Lowell hit very few home runs last year... The team in general didn't have many home runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Hanley: .280, 3, 40 Conine: .280, 9, 65 Jacobs: .270, 18, 75 Hermida: .285, 20, 85 Willingham: .300, 10, 65 Cabrera: .330, 40, 120 2B: .270, 5, 40 CF: .270, 5, 40 This is a really rough estimate, but the total comes to: HR: 110 RBI: 530 Somehow we end up with a more powerful offense....Hmm....But honestly, those numbers seem accurate to me. Hermy can easily get 20 with his pop, and Jacobs has the pop too. Willy and Niner get some here and there, and Cabs can get 40, no doubt. RBI numbers might be off a little, but who really knows.. Average BA is around .285....That seems off Jacobs and Hermy can both get 30/100 stats, but not this year. They both need more time in the bigs, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fritz Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Hanley: .280, 3, 40 Conine: .280, 9, 65 Jacobs: .270, 18, 75 Hermida: .285, 20, 85 Willingham: .300, 10, 65 Cabrera: .330, 40, 120 2B: .270, 5, 40 CF: .270, 5, 40 This is a really rough estimate, but the total comes to: HR: 110 RBI: 530 Somehow we end up with a more powerful offense....Hmm....But honestly, those numbers seem accurate to me. Hermy can easily get 20 with his pop, and Jacobs has the pop too. Willy and Niner get some here and there, and Cabs can get 40, no doubt. RBI numbers might be off a little, but who really knows.. Average BA is around .285....That seems off Jacobs and Hermy can both get 30/100 stats, but not this year. They both need more time in the bigs, I think. I'm all for optimism, but if that happens, I'll eat my face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Hanley: .280, 3, 40 Conine: .280, 9, 65 Jacobs: .270, 18, 75 Hermida: .285, 20, 85 Willingham: .300, 10, 65 Cabrera: .330, 40, 120 2B: .270, 5, 40 CF: .270, 5, 40 This is a really rough estimate, but the total comes to: HR: 110 RBI: 530 Somehow we end up with a more powerful offense....Hmm....But honestly, those numbers seem accurate to me. Hermy can easily get 20 with his pop, and Jacobs has the pop too. Willy and Niner get some here and there, and Cabs can get 40, no doubt. RBI numbers might be off a little, but who really knows.. Average BA is around .285....That seems off Jacobs and Hermy can both get 30/100 stats, but not this year. They both need more time in the bigs, I think. I'm all for optimism, but if that happens, I'll eat my face. eh? Knock off 10 points on the BA if you want, but those HR numbers might actually be low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heckeroo Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 can't say i can see cabs getting 120 RBI's in this lineup probably more walks than RBI's really I can definitely see more HR's from these guys, but i'm not waiting on it. Average way down though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChambersWI Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 It's gonna be hard to predict the numbers since Miggy's "protection" (Jacobs and Hermida) didn't get playing time until September. You also have to take into consideration That HanRam has never played in the majors, and even Aquila/Willy have very few ABs. I can't give specific numbers, but IMO our offense won't be good until June (when a lot of the players get used to the big leagues). Our line-up has the potential to be great one day, but it will take awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 so with some of those predictions we are going to be a better team next year :lol we are going to be better in september than we will be in april. that's all i'm gonna say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felo Ramirez Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Hanley: .280, 3, 40 Conine: .280, 9, 65 Jacobs: .270, 18, 75 Hermida: .285, 20, 85 Willingham: .300, 10, 65 Cabrera: .330, 40, 120 2B: .270, 5, 40 CF: .270, 5, 40 This is a really rough estimate, but the total comes to: HR: 110 RBI: 530 Somehow we end up with a more powerful offense....Hmm....But honestly, those numbers seem accurate to me. Hermy can easily get 20 with his pop, and Jacobs has the pop too. Willy and Niner get some here and there, and Cabs can get 40, no doubt. RBI numbers might be off a little, but who really knows.. Average BA is around .285....That seems off Jacobs and Hermy can both get 30/100 stats, but not this year. They both need more time in the bigs, I think. More like... Hanley: .260 Jacobs: .257 Hermida: .275 Willingham: .250 Cabrera: .295 2B: .225 CF: .230 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Hanley: .280, 3, 40 Conine: .280, 9, 65 Jacobs: .270, 18, 75 Hermida: .285, 20, 85 Willingham: .300, 10, 65 Cabrera: .330, 40, 120 2B: .270, 5, 40 CF: .270, 5, 40 This is a really rough estimate, but the total comes to: HR: 110 RBI: 530 Somehow we end up with a more powerful offense....Hmm....But honestly, those numbers seem accurate to me. Hermy can easily get 20 with his pop, and Jacobs has the pop too. Willy and Niner get some here and there, and Cabs can get 40, no doubt. RBI numbers might be off a little, but who really knows.. Average BA is around .285....That seems off Jacobs and Hermy can both get 30/100 stats, but not this year. They both need more time in the bigs, I think. More like... Hanley: .260 Jacobs: .257 Hermida: .275 Willingham: .250 Cabrera: .295 2B: .225 CF: .230 Willy higher, Jacobs higher, Cabs higherand you can't really put the 2b and cf numbers that low until you know who they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBCMarlinsFan Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Hanley: .280, 3, 40 Conine: .280, 9, 65 Jacobs: .270, 18, 75 Hermida: .285, 20, 85 Willingham: .300, 10, 65 Cabrera: .330, 40, 120 2B: .270, 5, 40 CF: .270, 5, 40 This is a really rough estimate, but the total comes to: HR: 110 RBI: 530 Somehow we end up with a more powerful offense....Hmm....But honestly, those numbers seem accurate to me. Hermy can easily get 20 with his pop, and Jacobs has the pop too. Willy and Niner get some here and there, and Cabs can get 40, no doubt. RBI numbers might be off a little, but who really knows.. Average BA is around .285....That seems off Jacobs and Hermy can both get 30/100 stats, but not this year. They both need more time in the bigs, I think. More like... Hanley: .260 Jacobs: .257 Hermida: .275 Willingham: .250 Cabrera: .295 2B: .225 CF: .230 I think that is more realistic, though I think Jacobs will hit more in the .265 - .270 range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I think Willingham will have better power numbers than Hermida will and while Hammer's average shouldnt be more than .270, his obp should be around .380 or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Punisher Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I don't know much about many, however I will predict my favorite offseason addition's numbers. Mike Jacobs .283, 25-29 HR, 75-85 RBI's, no more, no less! Jacobs will do great, remember Preston Wilson, his first season he was a strike out machine but still belted about 25, I believe Jacobs has greater knowledge of the strike zone than Preston did at this point of his career, his patience will translate in a higher average, and his power numbers showed last year with minimal at bats. He can hit from both sides of the field which means he just can plain out hit, his defense I can question since I don't know much about, but I know that this kid has some lumber for this offense, I've been following him for the longest, since my friends in new york use to brag about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Depending on who the last couple of pieces are, this group could easily outhomer last year's team. The average will likely go down but the overall slugging could actually go up. Guys like JP, LoDuca, Castillo are high average but they're almost exclusively singles hitters. Lowell hit some doubles but that's about it. Niner didn't hit homers either. Between those 7 players I think they'll hit 85, compared to 74 last season. But after a year's experience, the group of Cabs/Hermy/Willy/Jacobs/Ramirez top 100 by themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsprt05 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Reading the above posts, it just hit me. WHACK!!! Most of us are all depressed about dismantling a 2005 team that only won 83 GAMES. Some of us on this site are giving the Fish a decent shot of winning 75-80 games this year anyway. Loria just decided that 50 million dollars wasn't worth 5-10 wins. Hermida- .304 27 97 Cabrera- .311 36 118 Jacobs- .293 28 91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Punisher Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Too me Hermida will have a bad first half, but will wake up, bounce back, and have a decent second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Reading the above posts, it just hit me. WHACK!!! Most of us are all depressed about dismantling a 2005 team that only won 83 GAMES. Some of us on this site are giving the Fish a decent shot of winning 75-80 games this year anyway. Loria just decided that 50 million dollars wasn't worth 5-10 wins. Hermida- .304 27 97 Cabrera- .311 36 118 Jacobs- .293 28 91 *best Fritz impersonation* If those numbers happen for Jacobs and Hermy, I will eat my face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsprt05 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Did I add that those are my 2008 predicitions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Iowa's numbers are a bit deceiving. With Miggy, last year's squad had 107. So this year won't be too much better, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDon Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 New guy here..... Someone mentioned that they believe Willy is going to put up big numbers this year.....If he has so much potential then why did Treanor platoon with The Duke all of 2005? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofthefish Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 I think Ramirez is going to wear # 2, I'm not sure about Jacobs but there are a lot of numbers available-19, 21, 9, 16 ,1 etc..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 New guy here..... Someone mentioned that they believe Willy is going to put up big numbers this year.....If he has so much potential then why did Treanor platoon with The Duke all of 2005? Willy was hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 New guy here..... Someone mentioned that they believe Willy is going to put up big numbers this year.....If he has so much potential then why did Treanor platoon with The Duke all of 2005? Because Willy can't really play catcher at an above average level yet, and he was hurt at the start of the year...since I'm assuming you're asking why Treanor was the back-up, not a "platoon" player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everlong204 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 miggy is going to be walked alot more without anyway protecting him in the lineup, we should have the same if not a little more from the home run department this first year, depending on the pitching staff, these kids have a shot at finishing at .500, all depends obcourse in how they play the N.L East Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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