June 11, 200620 yr Ok seriously...for those who saw 1st base ump Bruce Dreckman's PATHETIC call on the Matt Treanor "double play" ball...I was watching with my dad and we're curious...with a call that bad, is there some type of penalty or consequence for Dreckman? I mean, I understand "human error", its an integral part of the game of baseball...but blatantly missing an obvious call can't just go untouched, or can it? I mean the man has a job to do, and he completely failed at it...in most jobs, something has to give... Please tell me something comes out of this... I know we won, but thats beside the point...if we have umps making calls that bad, somethings wrong and it needs to be corrected... Whats the procedure here? And is there any precedent for something like this? I'm so curious on this...any help would be appreciated... Thanks :thumbup
June 11, 200620 yr If baseball does anything to Dreckman the rest of the Umpires will protest. There is really nothing baseball can do.
June 11, 200620 yr Author why would the other umps protest? he clearly screwed up...theres no question about it...it wouldnt be picking on Dreckman, it would be acknowledging an error...
June 11, 200620 yr why would the other umps protest? he clearly screwed up...theres no question about it...it wouldnt be picking on Dreckman, it would be acknowledging an error... If the umpires don't have the benefit of the doubt, then teams will be arguing calls all day and night. Whether the calls are legit or not. There is simply no precedence in the sport for fining an umpire for missing a call? Every umpire does it.
June 11, 200620 yr Author :banghead ...damn... ...its still not right though...I think he still deserves at least an open handed slap in the mouth, probably from Randy Messenger :shifty
June 11, 200620 yr The NFL holds it's officials accountable on calls that are obviously blown. Then again, the NFL has efficient drug testing so maybe we're trying to meet too high of a standard,
June 11, 200620 yr Ok seriously...for those who saw 1st base ump Bruce Dreckman's PATHETIC call on the Matt Treanor "double play" ball...I was watching with my dad and we're curious...with a call that bad, is there some type of penalty or consequence for Dreckman? I mean, I understand "human error", its an integral part of the game of baseball...but blatantly missing an obvious call can't just go untouched, or can it? I mean the man has a job to do, and he completely failed at it...in most jobs, something has to give... Please tell me something comes out of this... I know we won, but thats beside the point...if we have umps making calls that bad, somethings wrong and it needs to be corrected... Whats the procedure here? And is there any precedent for something like this? I'm so curious on this...any help would be appreciated... Thanks :thumbup As anyone that works in the real world, all umpires are reviewed yearly for retention purpose
June 11, 200620 yr Plays like this are regularly reviewed by both the Commissioner's Office and umpire's (collective bargaining) organization for a number of reasons including chastisement, punishment, promotion and selecting umpiring crews for the All-Star game and playoffs, all of which include extra pay for services. This was the second game in a row where this umpiring crew got it wrong against the Marlins. One took instant replay and an admission by the rightfielder to bring the truth out, and the other was obvious to everyone in the park. But on the whole it points to a problem within the crew and if this were to continue it could be broken up, umpires could be given days off without pay, etc. So in short, yes, there are consequences for the umpires. I'm sure both Poncino and Dreckman will be reviewed and measures taken.
June 11, 200620 yr There should be something because that call was not close at all. Treanor was already passed the bag. I can understand if he made a mistake on a play that was very close but he must have been blind to miss this play.
June 11, 200620 yr The one consequence I can think of is that you can bet Dreckman WILL NOT be working the playoffs this year after that little upchuck call at first. A blown call like that will make his umpire rating fall faster than Reggie Abercrombie's batting average.
June 11, 200620 yr A blown call like that will make his umpire rating fall faster than Reggie Abercrombie's batting average. :lol :lol .
June 11, 200620 yr The one consequence I can think of is that you can bet Dreckman WILL NOT be working the playoffs this year after that little upchuck call at first. A blown call like that will make his umpire rating fall faster than Reggie Abercrombie's batting average. That is a blow below the belt. :lol
June 11, 200620 yr This was from FlaMarlins.com "He said he didn't miss it," Girardi said of his conversation with Dreckman. "It's life. It's going to happen." Denial??
June 11, 200620 yr I'd like to see Girardi thrown out of a game one of these days. It's about damn time he truly sticks up for his boys. That will light a fire under their asses for sure. I just wish he realized how seriously soft he seems sometimes.
June 11, 200620 yr His mentor was Joe Torre. I wouldn't call Torre his mentor. He was his coacing superior at the time, but I'm sure there are plenty of people on Girardi's list that he would first call mentor.
June 11, 200620 yr When Girardi went out to argue I thought for sure he would end up getting thrown out. Dreckman had a perfect view and it just looked like he made up his mind before the play unraveled. I understand bad calls happen on bang-bang plays but this was not even close.
June 11, 200620 yr I'd like to see Girardi thrown out of a game one of these days. It's about damn time he truly sticks up for his boys. That will light a fire under their asses for sure. I just wish he realized how seriously soft he seems sometimes. joe didn't even get his money's worth... as tommy hutton said that was the worst call of the year. i mean the ball wasn't even in the picture when treanor's foot was on the bag. it's an obvious call...
June 11, 200620 yr Uggla's supposed triple was supposed to be a HR, they saw replays of it. Anyone curious? :plain
June 11, 200620 yr I'd like to see Girardi thrown out of a game one of these days. It's about damn time he truly sticks up for his boys. That will light a fire under their asses for sure. I just wish he realized how seriously soft he seems sometimes. Don't be a dumbass, it doesn't light a fire under their asses. I don't want another Admin Bowa idiot yelling all the time, a Joe Torre replica is fine with me.
June 11, 200620 yr Torre gets ejected from time to time and probably would have on that play if he was managing the marlins, Treanor was practically on the outfield grass when the ball was caught.
June 11, 200620 yr i didn't see the game, does anyone perhaps have a video of it so i can see what you're all talking about?
June 11, 200620 yr Why does Joe need to get thrown out to get a fire lit under their asses? I never understood that logic. Especially when they have been winning as of late.
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