the only way hanley wins it is if he can jump his AVG above like 310. ROY's and MVP's normally go to the player with big power numbers. I am still a bit nervous with the competition though. Ethier, Saito, Duncan, Prince, Zimmerman.

if Hanley gets to 50 doubles, to go along with his 50 stolen bases, I think that might win it for him

 

Only happened twice all time

 

1912 Tris Speaker 53/52

1998 Craig Biggio 51/50

WOW that's some nice competition..

I like Hanley's chances right now.

 

However, don't discount Anibal's late run. He's just producing right now, he's matching up against legit pitchers (CG against Smoltz, 7 strong and a W against Pedro), plus he has something that no one else can claim - a nono.

I like Hanley's chances right now.

 

However, don't discount Anibal's late run. He's just producing right now, he's matching up against legit pitchers (CG against Smoltz, 7 strong and a W against Pedro), plus he has something that no one else can claim - a nono.

 

ya, that's true but I don't think he has had enough time with the big club. I doubt he has enough innings.

What's with people liking Willingham for ROY? The guy plays left field like my grandfather.

What's with people liking Willingham for ROY? The guy plays left field like my grandfather.

 

But can your grandfather put up these offensive numbers? .279 AVG .361 OBP 25 HR 73 RBI

 

Although I'd still give ROY to Uggla with Hanley a close second.

What's with people liking Willingham for ROY? The guy plays left field like my grandfather.

 

But he can hit like well, a 30 hr guy.

What's with people liking Willingham for ROY? The guy plays left field like my grandfather.

 

He has his Shares of great plays and has done something no other Marlin this year really have, providing some protection for Cabs

What's with people liking Willingham for ROY? The guy plays left field like my grandfather.

 

because the ROY is offensive-first. defense doensn't really matter. Just like ortiz is being considered for MVP and his defense is even worse.

 

I'm probably the only one on here that thinks Willingham plays adequate defense.

What's with people liking Willingham for ROY? The guy plays left field like my grandfather.

 

because the ROY is offensive-first. defense doensn't really matter. Just like ortiz is being considered for MVP and his defense is even worse.

 

I'm probably the only one on here that thinks Willingham plays adequate defense.

probably not

 

I never said Willingham should get any first place votes, all I said was if he had more at bats, he would definitely be considered

I think #1 and #2 are from the Marlins (Uggla and Hanley)...and then to round out the top 6 Anibal and Johnson somewhere in there.

 

Willy would probably be top 7 IMO.

Olsen has to be up there as well.

Olsen has to be up there as well.

 

See I'm just not sure where to put everyone else. Zimmerman, Ethier (is he still eligible, not following him), ?

What's with people liking Willingham for ROY? The guy plays left field like my grandfather.

 

But can your grandfather put up these offensive numbers? .279 AVG .361 OBP 25 HR 73 RBI

 

Although I'd still give ROY to Uggla with Hanley a close second. Nope. I love Willingham's bat, but his defense is horrendous. Even the balls he makes plays on, he takes horrible routes.

 

I see Hanley and Uggla getting a lot of votes, but I really don't see Willingham finishing in the top 10, even if the majority of voters haven't seen the plays that he just misses and can't be given an error on.

and hanley's a good defensive short stop? hell no. the guy's defense has lost us more games than willy's defense.

 

Uggla's most hr's by a rookie second baseman should garner the ROY

 

That said, Hanley has the brightest future of any of our position player rookies.

 

Just don't hate on Willy's defense and neglect the fact that Hanley has also been very spotty.

I think it's close between Uggla and Ramirez as to who deserves it. Uggla is the more likely of the two to actually win the award because of superior power numbers.

 

And to the person who mentioned that Ramirez defense cost us more games than Willy's, you need to remember that Hanley plays a more important defensive position and he gets more chances to make errors. Although fielding percentage by itself is not the whole story, Willingham has the 2nd worst among all NL outfielders who have started at least 100 games.

gonna be a tight finish

 

if Willingham hadnt gotten hurt, he'd be at or above 30 homers and his name would be in this talk too

 

 

Maybe. But the same could be said for Jake and Hermida also. Woulda, shoulda, coulda. Blah, blah, blah.

Hanley will be in the running but Uggla should get it. He gets more media attention and has been the bigger surprise this season. This is the guy that some on other boards and here called a career minor leaguer that would be replaced by May with Andino. IMO anyone who still places Hanley over Uggla just can't bring themselves to admit when they are wrong about anything. He's been breaking Marlins and MLB records with ease. With Perry's guidance he has become a very good 2B. Maybe not GG good but better than most. And with his attitude he will only get better. If he dosen't win MLB's ROY he is a shoe in for the Marlins award.

The only player I see taking it away from him would maybe be Zimmerman. But as a Marlins fan I may be just a little biased. LOL

Hermida's name should not be mentioned in this thread

Is Uggla's recent end of the year slump (2 for his last 26, in crucial games) going to hurt his chances? I know some people think he is a "fluke" one-year wonder, and the slump may convince them they are right.

 

BTW, I personally think, looking at his minor league years, that he could keep performing at a level at least close to what he has done this year.

What's with people liking Willingham for ROY? The guy plays left field like my grandfather.

 

because the ROY is offensive-first. defense doensn't really matter. Just like ortiz is being considered for MVP and his defense is even worse.

 

I'm probably the only one on here that thinks Willingham plays adequate defense.

probably not

 

I never said Willingham should get any first place votes, all I said was if he had more at bats, he would definitely be considered

that's true, I'm just pointing out that I think Willy plays good defense. I can't recall the last time I've seen him make an error (I might of been looking away or not watching the game). I've just been seeing him making the diving catches, like that one he made early on in Sanchez's no-hitter.

What's with people liking Willingham for ROY? The guy plays left field like my grandfather.

 

because the ROY is offensive-first. defense doensn't really matter. Just like ortiz is being considered for MVP and his defense is even worse.

 

I'm probably the only one on here that thinks Willingham plays adequate defense.

probably not

 

I never said Willingham should get any first place votes, all I said was if he had more at bats, he would definitely be considered

that's true, I'm just pointing out that I think Willy plays good defense. I can't recall the last time I've seen him make an error (I might of been looking away or not watching the game). I've just been seeing him making the diving catches, like that one he made early on in Sanchez's no-hitter. Me either. The crap plays he makes can't be credited as errors because he never even gets to the ball.

Reggie for Rookie of the Year

that's true, I'm just pointing out that I think Willy plays good defense. I can't recall the last time I've seen him make an error (I might of been looking away or not watching the game). I've just been seeing him making the diving catches, like that one he made early on in Sanchez's no-hitter.

Me either. The crap plays he makes can't be credited as errors because he never even gets to the ball.

 

Ehh, you must not have seen the Atlanta debacle.

 

And to the guy who said hanley plays at a position that is prone to make more errors than outfielders.... no duh,

but he's playing that tougher position and needs to play it better if he wants to be considered GOOD defensively at that position. What you said also doesn't deny the fact that Hanley's defense has lost us more than a few games. So, yes, I'm aware SS is a harder position to field than LF... :banghead

that's true, I'm just pointing out that I think Willy plays good defense. I can't recall the last time I've seen him make an error (I might of been looking away or not watching the game). I've just been seeing him making the diving catches, like that one he made early on in Sanchez's no-hitter.

Me either. The crap plays he makes can't be credited as errors because he never even gets to the ball.

 

Ehh, you must not have seen the Atlanta debacle.

 

And to the guy who said hanley plays at a position that is prone to make more errors than outfielders.... no duh,

but he's playing that tougher position and needs to play it better if he wants to be considered GOOD defensively at that position. What you said also doesn't deny the fact that Hanley's defense has lost us more than a few games. So, yes, I'm aware SS is a harder position to field than LF... :banghead

what'd he do in ATL? It's only one series...

Hanley needs A LOT of work on routine ground balls before we talk about him winning any awards.

 

 

As far as routine ground balls go, he amateur at best