May 24, 200719 yr Our catcher's are absolutely deplorable on offense. In AAA, Baker is hitting .321/.407/.513 in 78 at bats with 9 doubles and 2 homeruns How about this. Miguel Olivo vs lefties this year: .361/.425/.611 John Baker vs righties this year: .343/.421/.567 platoon em :whistle
May 24, 200719 yr You would think the FO would be quicker to call him up considering what they gave up for him. But yeah, how's his Defense/Arm?
May 24, 200719 yr Hell start him full time. Bakers splits vs LHP are atrocious, but to be fair he only has 11 AB vs LHP.
May 24, 200719 yr Author defensively he can call a fine game and block the plate adequately his arm isn't too great, but it isn't Mike Piazza either
May 24, 200719 yr I can't see a reason not to, unless they're concerned about him not being familiar enough with our pitchers.
May 24, 200719 yr I concur completley. Olivo is terrible with the glove and looks absolutly lost at the plate. John Baker can't really be that much worse so it's certainly worth a shot.
May 24, 200719 yr I think we should be carrying three catchers anyways. I like Ramp's splits L/R but you don't want to throw away Treanor's defense and game-calling and Baker can a be good bat off the bench (in other words adios T. Linden). Olivo clearly needs a rest. Like so many catchers they get this iron-man mentality, utlimately crashing and burning. Baker's problem is his defense. Used properly the three of them can be a plus for the team.
May 24, 200719 yr I never bought into the "Olivo is teh suxoorz" argument, but I'm starting to come around. At this point, I'm even hoping he's not our starting catcher come September.
May 24, 200719 yr Olivo is getting worn out because he has to play everyday......because Treanor is the worst hitting catcher in the majors and Fredi doesn't want to play him at all. I like Ramp's idea. The Marlins have nothing to lose because Treanor sucks.
May 24, 200719 yr I agree. Would we have to put treanor through waivers to send him down to AAA? If so, the only team that I could think that would pick him up would be the Yankees, since they're the only team AFAIK that's looking for a back up catcher. But even then, I don't think they would pick him up due to his lack of offense. There might be a team I'm missing but I'm pretty sure he would pass waivers if he's out of options. I agree about wanting to keep Treanor up though, unless Baker can prove he can catch Willis/Kim(although hopefully he'll only get a few more starts)/ect well.
May 24, 200719 yr yes i agree olivo has been slumping bad lately but hes due to get hot like he was b4 this started.....and btw i started a jon baker call up thread a few days ago hahah
May 24, 200719 yr Olivo is getting worn out because he has to play everyday......because Treanor is the worst hitting catcher in the majors and Fredi doesn't want to play him at all. I like Ramp's idea. The Marlins have nothing to lose because Treanor sucks. Olivo has not shown to be good when rested so don't use that excuse. Sure, Treanor sucks too, but that doesn't spare Olivo from doing his job.
May 24, 200719 yr Ramp, do you think this could happen sometime this year? Baker is probably not our savior but it would be nice to see someone different behind the plate.
May 24, 200719 yr Author Ramp, do you think this could happen sometime this year? Baker is probably not our savior but it would be nice to see someone different behind the plate. Yea, I expect him to be up... I have no educated guesses as to when though, because you would think he would be up by now.
May 24, 200719 yr You would think the FO would be quicker to call him up considering what they gave up for him Sorry... that made me laugh
May 24, 200719 yr Haha... I checked Olivo's stats last year and look at his K/BB ratio. 103K to 9bb (430ab's).
May 24, 200719 yr Author Reminiscent of Willingham in '04 and Hermida in '05. You mean numbers wise?...and the fact they are wasting away in the minors?
May 24, 200719 yr And in the case of Hermida and Baker blocked by really crappy players. Hammer was blocked too, but by Miggy and Lo Duca, etc.
May 24, 200719 yr Author well Hermida needed the whole year in AA ball... so I don't think he really compares with Willingham of 2004
May 24, 200719 yr well Hermida needed the whole year in AA ball... so I don't think he really compares with Willingham of 2004 That's what I was thinking too. Hermida was MUCH younger than the other two.
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