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Our sophomore pitchers.

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Well thus far from our four 10-win rookie pitchers from last season....

 

- Olsen's a mess, ERA over 5,

 

- Nolasco's been injured and ineffective when healthy,

 

- Johnson's been on the DL,

 

- Sanchez was so bad he's gone to the minors.

 

Things have not gone well. Granted, injuries have been a huge part of it. As we've mentioned in other threads, it's actually pretty remarkable we've hung around .500.

 

 

Let's hope Josh Johnson has better results.

Olsen let the bottom of the order beat him....Not a key to victory.

Ill put the same thing I put in the game thread:

 

Olsen has given up 5 ER in 4 of his 12 starts. In those 4 starts, he has a 7.46 ERA and 2.27 WHIP

 

In his other 8 starts, he has a 3.67 ERA and 1.39 WHIP. He has twice as many good starts than bad.

Terrible year for our young boys.

 

Olsen seriously needs a wake up call... he is such a little baby. One second he is unhittable and the next second he has no idea how to pitch. :bottom He gets so frazzled easily. The one thing I dislike about Olsen is that he always talks the talk but he can never walk the walk. He needs to stop being Snotty Olsen and start pitching.

Terrible year for our young boys.

 

Olsen seriously needs a wake up call... he is such a little baby. One second he is unhittable and the next second he has no idea how to pitch. :bottom

I haven't seen this unhittable Olsen all year long.

The starting pitching in general on this team has been fair at best.

It's got to improve or we'll continue to be a mediocre close to .500 team.

Ill put the same thing I put in the game thread:

 

Olsen has given up 5 ER in 4 of his 12 starts. In those 4 starts, he has a 7.46 ERA and 2.27 WHIP

 

In his other 8 starts, he has a 3.67 ERA and 1.39 WHIP. He has twice as many good starts than bad.

 

 

My thoughts exactly.

 

I dislike Olsen, but he's been effective more times then not. We shouldn't expect every pitcher to be in the Cy Young contention.

Ill put the same thing I put in the game thread:

 

Olsen has given up 5 ER in 4 of his 12 starts. In those 4 starts, he has a 7.46 ERA and 2.27 WHIP

 

In his other 8 starts, he has a 3.67 ERA and 1.39 WHIP. He has twice as many good starts than bad.

 

 

Olsen absolutely has not had 8 good starts. You want to break down his 5.35 ERA he has now with saying that he only had 4 bad starts is false. 5-6ip giving up 3 runs and walking 2-3 is not considered a good start. That ERA of 3.67 is due to (3) good starts. Regardless he has an ERA in the 5's, and I cant see anyone being to happy with this years preformance by Scotty O.

Ill put the same thing I put in the game thread:

 

Olsen has given up 5 ER in 4 of his 12 starts. In those 4 starts, he has a 7.46 ERA and 2.27 WHIP

 

In his other 8 starts, he has a 3.67 ERA and 1.39 WHIP. He has twice as many good starts than bad.

 

you support Olsen and yet attack Mitre. that makes no sense whatsoever

regardless of what our sophmore guys have been doing and the injuries.... weve even had chances to be better than where we are now and we seem to sh*t ourselves whenever we get to one game under .500 and then we always have to climb back

Has nothing to do with the fact that hes white.

 

Olsen has the best stuff on the staff IMO, hes just young. He will be aight.

 

(if it had anything to do with race, you wouldnt see me constantly defend Hanley and Cabs against a small # of short sided people, Anibal, etc.)

 

With the pitching, this team keeps taking 2 steps forward and then 3 steps back, no momentum

 

Been within 1 game of reaching .500 so many times only to lose said game. It is really frustrating.

In 5 2/3 innings, Scott Olsen (4-5) gave up five runs on eight hits with three walks and two strikeouts. Four of the runs the 23-year-old allowed came on two-out hits.

 

But he became frustrated when he was removed with runners on second and third in the sixth inning. The fiery lefty made an obscene hand gesture at a few Brewers fans behind the Marlins' dugout. But Olsen contained his emotions, and no incident ensued.

 

"Write what you want," Olsen said to reporters when asked if he made a gesture to the fans. "You know how I am. I don't take losing well."

Flamarlins.com

 

:rolleyes: ... then stop losing.

Man... I don't get the aboslute abhoration for Scotty on this board. The kid is 23 years old, and he's in his 2nd full season. He's a raw dude, but his stuff really is excellent... we've seen him absolutely own teams.

 

If we want to talk about our sophmore pitchers, Scotty is the only one going out there. He's made every effing start.

 

He's young, his runs will come in droves... this happens with almost every young pitcher in the league. But he has done some incredible things for a kid his age. I mean look at our organization... he's the same age as Brett Sinkbeil, he's the same age his 1st season as Gaby and Vandy are now. He's that far developed. I know it's frustrating, and I am frustrated with his performance more than anyone, but he is 23, not unstable, or egotistical, or whatever else you want to say... he's just 23.

Olsen is too talented to pitch like he has. Ill be the first to admit I am a biased Olsen supporter.

 

He will turn it around.

 

 

 

The problem is when you have a ton of talent and the maturity level of a 5th grader, these are the results.

Olsen is too talented to pitch like he has. Ill be the first to admit I am a biased Olsen supporter.

 

He will turn it around.

 

 

 

The problem is when you have a ton of talent and the maturity level of a 5th grader, these are the results.

I'd say 2nd grader but other than that, you're 100% correct. Hope he enjoys his fine.

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Man... I don't get the aboslute abhoration for Scotty on this board. The kid is 23 years old, and he's in his 2nd full season. He's a raw dude, but his stuff really is excellent... we've seen him absolutely own teams.

 

If we want to talk about our sophmore pitchers, Scotty is the only one going out there. He's made every effing start.

 

He's young, his runs will come in droves... this happens with almost every young pitcher in the league. But he has done some incredible things for a kid his age. I mean look at our organization... he's the same age as Brett Sinkbeil, he's the same age his 1st season as Gaby and Vandy are now. He's that far developed. I know it's frustrating, and I am frustrated with his performance more than anyone, but he is 23, not unstable, or egotistical, or whatever else you want to say... he's just 23.

 

Well I don't dislike him at all personally. I don't mind the attitude either, as long as it doesn't affect his pitching. He wants to win and he's young. Beckett & AJ had attitudes too and they turned out pretty good.

 

I just don't think he's pitching well, that was all my post was referring to. It's not a disaster either, he can turn it around.

Ill put the same thing I put in the game thread:

 

Olsen has given up 5 ER in 4 of his 12 starts. In those 4 starts, he has a 7.46 ERA and 2.27 WHIP

 

In his other 8 starts, he has a 3.67 ERA and 1.39 WHIP. He has twice as many good starts than bad.

You could do that with any pitcher in baseball.

 

Only thing is, those "good" starts you've selected really aren't that impressive. I would have expected much better "good" starts.

 

That 1.39 WHIP is pretty average, which is surprising since you dropped the worst third of starts.

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