llahsram Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Looking at the following facts that (1) Pasta has not been terrible, (2) Brett at least shows a LOT in the ways of defensive skills, (3) Todd Linden is, in fact, an option off the bench, and (4) Cody Ross is supposed to return sometime... at what point do we do something about the black hole in right? ::cringes for onslaught of criticism that awaits for what amounts to "bad-mouthing" Hermida:: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlin Nation Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 What is wrong with saying Hermida sucks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Josh Willingham is the left fielder btw. Hermida is in right. You can sit him for a day or two once in a while to give him a rest but I wouldn't bench that kind of guy permanently.  Gotta let him try & hit his way through these things. We have to find out what we have there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefWillingham Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Josh Willingham is the left fielder btw. Hermida is in right. You can sit him for a day or two once in a while to give him a rest but I wouldn't bench that kind of guy permanently.  Gotta let him try & hit his way through these things. We have to find out what we have there.  I was wondering why, because of a rough month, he wanted to do away with Willingham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llahsram Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 Josh Willingham is the left fielder btw. Hermida is in right. You can sit him for a day or two once in a while to give him a rest but I wouldn't bench that kind of guy permanently.  Gotta let him try & hit his way through these things. We have to find out what we have there. You are correct. Not sure what I was thinking when I typed it as left.  I agree we shouldn't do anything permanently, but damn.  Also, marlin nation I don't think he sucks in general. I just think he sucks right now!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlin Nation Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I feel the same way, I think Hermida has tremendous talent but is going through a serious funk. I project Hermida to have a productive career but in the meantime I think he is hurting the team and another short-term option has to be explored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 He's still posting a league average OPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of the Past Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 He's still posting a league average OPS. Hermida? What's the league average OPS and what's his OPS? In the league average are you including pitchers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 He's still posting a league average OPS. Hermida? What's the league average OPS and what's his OPS? In the league average are you including pitchers? .726 Hermida .739 League (pitchers excluded) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Also, marlin nation I don't think he sucks in general. I just think he sucks right now!!! Marlins nation? Most of us are still hoping for a Marlins city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of the Past Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 He's still posting a league average OPS. Hermida? What's the league average OPS and what's his OPS? In the league average are you including pitchers? .726 Hermida .739 League (pitchers excluded) After today's game Jeremy's OPS is .707. I don't know how to get the OPS excluding pitchers but per ESPN the AL OPS is .757 and the NL OPS is .736. The AL OPS includes pitchers hitting in the NL park games and the NL OPS includes pitchers hitting in all games except the AL park games. I think the MLB OPS excluding pitchers is probably around .765 which puts Jeremy about 60 points below the league average. Do you have a link to the .739 (excluding pitchers)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsLou Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Does it really matter what Hermida's current OPS is? He he gets 2 hits or goes 0-4 it fluctuates 20 points because of his small AB size. Kid is struggling, when Cody gets back he'll prob sub in for left handers as that early split is really showing itself to be false after Maholm and Duke killed him. Go check Hermidas Home/Road splits, and vs RHP, if you want to see what the problem is. Something is going to give eventually on those numbers. I'm hopeful in the positive direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 He's still posting a league average OPS. Hermida? What's the league average OPS and what's his OPS? In the league average are you including pitchers? .726 Hermida .739 League (pitchers excluded) After today's game Jeremy's OPS is .707. I don't know how to get the OPS excluding pitchers but per ESPN the AL OPS is .757 and the NL OPS is .736. The AL OPS includes pitchers hitting in the NL park games and the NL OPS includes pitchers hitting in all games except the AL park games. I think the MLB OPS excluding pitchers is probably around .765 which puts Jeremy about 60 points below the league average. Do you have a link to the .739 (excluding pitchers)? Baseball-reference.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of the Past Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 He's still posting a league average OPS. Hermida? What's the league average OPS and what's his OPS? In the league average are you including pitchers? .726 Hermida .739 League (pitchers excluded) After today's game Jeremy's OPS is .707. I don't know how to get the OPS excluding pitchers but per ESPN the AL OPS is .757 and the NL OPS is .736. The AL OPS includes pitchers hitting in the NL park games and the NL OPS includes pitchers hitting in all games except the AL park games. I think the MLB OPS excluding pitchers is probably around .765 which puts Jeremy about 60 points below the league average. Do you have a link to the .739 (excluding pitchers)? Baseball-reference.com I think you're imagining this .739 number. I looked in baseball-reference and for OFs the average OPS so far this season is .767 which puts Jeremy 60 points below the average OF. The average for IFs is .754. http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bspli...T&year=2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYmarlins Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 when Ross comes back and he starts to platoon with Alfredo against LHP, we should be okay. Ross crushes them and if Hermida can start to turn it around soon then it will be a nice boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of the Past Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Does it really matter what Hermida's current OPS is? The Hermida apologists keep saying Hermida is putting league average numbers and that's simply not true. As I said before the ones who are 100% certain that Hermida will be a beast are just as ridiculous as the ones who call him a bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 He's still posting a league average OPS. Hermida? What's the league average OPS and what's his OPS? In the league average are you including pitchers? .726 Hermida .739 League (pitchers excluded) After today's game Jeremy's OPS is .707. I don't know how to get the OPS excluding pitchers but per ESPN the AL OPS is .757 and the NL OPS is .736. The AL OPS includes pitchers hitting in the NL park games and the NL OPS includes pitchers hitting in all games except the AL park games. I think the MLB OPS excluding pitchers is probably around .765 which puts Jeremy about 60 points below the league average. Do you have a link to the .739 (excluding pitchers)? Baseball-reference.com I think you're imagining this .739 number. I looked in baseball-reference and for OFs the average OPS so far this season is .767 which puts Jeremy 60 points below the average OF. The average for IFs is .754. http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bspli...T&year=2007 The .739 number is park adjusted based on Dolphins stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backin2008 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Park adjusted numbers are garbage. Either you put up the numbers or you don't. Dolphins stadium has no effect on a lot of the Marlins hitters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Park adjusted numbers are garbage. Either you put up the numbers or you don't. Dolphins stadium has no effect on a lot of the Marlins hitters. :thumbup :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backin2008 Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 So Dolphins Stadium hurts Hermida but not Mike Jacobs? Miguel Cabrera? Dan Uggla? Hanley Ramirez? Amusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishFF Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Shouldn't we be talking about the real problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Altamonte Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Anyone ever notice that after seeing Pasta in CF Carroll looks like a strong defender in CF considering he has been playing the position for about 8 or 9 months tells you how bad Amezaga really is playing out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerhead Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Anyone ever notice that after seeing Pasta in CF Carroll looks like a strong defender in CF considering he has been playing the position for about 8 or 9 months tells you how bad Amezaga really is playing out there Carroll should start every day in center field. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 So Dolphins Stadium hurts Hermida but not Mike Jacobs? Miguel Cabrera? Dan Uggla? Hanley Ramirez? Amusing. It does hurt Jacobs. And Cabrera, Uggla and Hanley as well. That is because it is a pitchers park. It affects Jacobs and Hermida more because it supresses home runs for lefties more than it does for righties, mostly because the right field wall and power alley are among the furthest in the majors. All of those guys would be better if they played in a park that leaned towards hitters more. That much is obvious. If you refuse to see that because of your blind hatred of Hermida, thats your problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Anyone ever notice that after seeing Pasta in CF Carroll looks like a strong defender in CF considering he has been playing the position for about 8 or 9 months tells you how bad Amezaga really is playing out there Pasta is the worst nickname ever. I've never tasted alfredo pasta, maybe others have and if so please tell me about it. There is a delicious cheese sauze popular mostly in northern Italy called Alfredo sauce. Anyone familiar? But in all seriousness, thats what happens when you put a middle infielder in CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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