Posted June 28, 200717 yr comment_912305 Looking at the following facts that (1) Pasta has not been terrible, (2) Brett at least shows a LOT in the ways of defensive skills, (3) Todd Linden is, in fact, an option off the bench, and (4) Cody Ross is supposed to return sometime... at what point do we do something about the black hole in right? ::cringes for onslaught of criticism that awaits for what amounts to "bad-mouthing" Hermida:: Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 28, 200717 yr comment_912306 What is wrong with saying Hermida sucks? Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 28, 200717 yr comment_912307 Josh Willingham is the left fielder btw. Hermida is in right. You can sit him for a day or two once in a while to give him a rest but I wouldn't bench that kind of guy permanently. Gotta let him try & hit his way through these things. We have to find out what we have there. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 28, 200717 yr comment_912308 Josh Willingham is the left fielder btw. Hermida is in right. You can sit him for a day or two once in a while to give him a rest but I wouldn't bench that kind of guy permanently. Gotta let him try & hit his way through these things. We have to find out what we have there. I was wondering why, because of a rough month, he wanted to do away with Willingham. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 28, 200717 yr Author comment_912309 Josh Willingham is the left fielder btw. Hermida is in right. You can sit him for a day or two once in a while to give him a rest but I wouldn't bench that kind of guy permanently. Gotta let him try & hit his way through these things. We have to find out what we have there. You are correct. Not sure what I was thinking when I typed it as left. I agree we shouldn't do anything permanently, but damn. Also, marlin nation I don't think he sucks in general. I just think he sucks right now!!! Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 28, 200717 yr comment_912310 I feel the same way, I think Hermida has tremendous talent but is going through a serious funk. I project Hermida to have a productive career but in the meantime I think he is hurting the team and another short-term option has to be explored. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 28, 200717 yr comment_912311 He's still posting a league average OPS. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 28, 200717 yr comment_912312 He's still posting a league average OPS. Hermida? What's the league average OPS and what's his OPS? In the league average are you including pitchers? Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 28, 200717 yr comment_912313 He's still posting a league average OPS. Hermida? What's the league average OPS and what's his OPS? In the league average are you including pitchers? .726 Hermida .739 League (pitchers excluded) Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 28, 200717 yr comment_912314 Also, marlin nation I don't think he sucks in general. I just think he sucks right now!!! Marlins nation? Most of us are still hoping for a Marlins city. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 28, 200717 yr comment_912315 He's still posting a league average OPS. Hermida? What's the league average OPS and what's his OPS? In the league average are you including pitchers? .726 Hermida .739 League (pitchers excluded) After today's game Jeremy's OPS is .707. I don't know how to get the OPS excluding pitchers but per ESPN the AL OPS is .757 and the NL OPS is .736. The AL OPS includes pitchers hitting in the NL park games and the NL OPS includes pitchers hitting in all games except the AL park games. I think the MLB OPS excluding pitchers is probably around .765 which puts Jeremy about 60 points below the league average. Do you have a link to the .739 (excluding pitchers)? Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 28, 200717 yr comment_912316 Does it really matter what Hermida's current OPS is? He he gets 2 hits or goes 0-4 it fluctuates 20 points because of his small AB size. Kid is struggling, when Cody gets back he'll prob sub in for left handers as that early split is really showing itself to be false after Maholm and Duke killed him. Go check Hermidas Home/Road splits, and vs RHP, if you want to see what the problem is. Something is going to give eventually on those numbers. I'm hopeful in the positive direction. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 28, 200717 yr comment_912317 He's still posting a league average OPS. Hermida? What's the league average OPS and what's his OPS? In the league average are you including pitchers? .726 Hermida .739 League (pitchers excluded) After today's game Jeremy's OPS is .707. I don't know how to get the OPS excluding pitchers but per ESPN the AL OPS is .757 and the NL OPS is .736. The AL OPS includes pitchers hitting in the NL park games and the NL OPS includes pitchers hitting in all games except the AL park games. I think the MLB OPS excluding pitchers is probably around .765 which puts Jeremy about 60 points below the league average. Do you have a link to the .739 (excluding pitchers)? Baseball-reference.com Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 28, 200717 yr comment_912318 He's still posting a league average OPS. Hermida? What's the league average OPS and what's his OPS? In the league average are you including pitchers? .726 Hermida .739 League (pitchers excluded) After today's game Jeremy's OPS is .707. I don't know how to get the OPS excluding pitchers but per ESPN the AL OPS is .757 and the NL OPS is .736. The AL OPS includes pitchers hitting in the NL park games and the NL OPS includes pitchers hitting in all games except the AL park games. I think the MLB OPS excluding pitchers is probably around .765 which puts Jeremy about 60 points below the league average. Do you have a link to the .739 (excluding pitchers)? Baseball-reference.com I think you're imagining this .739 number. I looked in baseball-reference and for OFs the average OPS so far this season is .767 which puts Jeremy 60 points below the average OF. The average for IFs is .754. http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bspli...T&year=2007 Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 28, 200717 yr comment_912319 when Ross comes back and he starts to platoon with Alfredo against LHP, we should be okay. Ross crushes them and if Hermida can start to turn it around soon then it will be a nice boost. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 28, 200717 yr comment_912320 Does it really matter what Hermida's current OPS is? The Hermida apologists keep saying Hermida is putting league average numbers and that's simply not true. As I said before the ones who are 100% certain that Hermida will be a beast are just as ridiculous as the ones who call him a bust. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 28, 200717 yr comment_912321 He's still posting a league average OPS. Hermida? What's the league average OPS and what's his OPS? In the league average are you including pitchers? .726 Hermida .739 League (pitchers excluded) After today's game Jeremy's OPS is .707. I don't know how to get the OPS excluding pitchers but per ESPN the AL OPS is .757 and the NL OPS is .736. The AL OPS includes pitchers hitting in the NL park games and the NL OPS includes pitchers hitting in all games except the AL park games. I think the MLB OPS excluding pitchers is probably around .765 which puts Jeremy about 60 points below the league average. Do you have a link to the .739 (excluding pitchers)? Baseball-reference.com I think you're imagining this .739 number. I looked in baseball-reference and for OFs the average OPS so far this season is .767 which puts Jeremy 60 points below the average OF. The average for IFs is .754. http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bspli...T&year=2007 The .739 number is park adjusted based on Dolphins stadium. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 28, 200717 yr comment_912322 Park adjusted numbers are garbage. Either you put up the numbers or you don't. Dolphins stadium has no effect on a lot of the Marlins hitters. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 28, 200717 yr comment_912323 Park adjusted numbers are garbage. Either you put up the numbers or you don't. Dolphins stadium has no effect on a lot of the Marlins hitters. :thumbup :banghead Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 29, 200717 yr comment_912324 So Dolphins Stadium hurts Hermida but not Mike Jacobs? Miguel Cabrera? Dan Uggla? Hanley Ramirez? Amusing. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 29, 200717 yr comment_912325 Shouldn't we be talking about the real problem? Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 29, 200717 yr comment_912326 Anyone ever notice that after seeing Pasta in CF Carroll looks like a strong defender in CF considering he has been playing the position for about 8 or 9 months tells you how bad Amezaga really is playing out there Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 29, 200717 yr comment_912327 Anyone ever notice that after seeing Pasta in CF Carroll looks like a strong defender in CF considering he has been playing the position for about 8 or 9 months tells you how bad Amezaga really is playing out there Carroll should start every day in center field. Period. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 29, 200717 yr comment_912328 So Dolphins Stadium hurts Hermida but not Mike Jacobs? Miguel Cabrera? Dan Uggla? Hanley Ramirez? Amusing. It does hurt Jacobs. And Cabrera, Uggla and Hanley as well. That is because it is a pitchers park. It affects Jacobs and Hermida more because it supresses home runs for lefties more than it does for righties, mostly because the right field wall and power alley are among the furthest in the majors. All of those guys would be better if they played in a park that leaned towards hitters more. That much is obvious. If you refuse to see that because of your blind hatred of Hermida, thats your problem. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 30, 200717 yr comment_912329 Anyone ever notice that after seeing Pasta in CF Carroll looks like a strong defender in CF considering he has been playing the position for about 8 or 9 months tells you how bad Amezaga really is playing out there Pasta is the worst nickname ever. I've never tasted alfredo pasta, maybe others have and if so please tell me about it. There is a delicious cheese sauze popular mostly in northern Italy called Alfredo sauce. Anyone familiar? But in all seriousness, thats what happens when you put a middle infielder in CF. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/53326-of-platooning-the-of/?&do=findComment&comment=912329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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