There really isn't a reason to go, especially on the weekends with football.

 

Exactly why baseball will never thrive in this town. Football is, and always will be king. No matter how bad the Dolphins are and how good the Marlins are.

 

It's sad but true.

There really isn't a reason to go, especially on the weekends with football.

 

Exactly why baseball will never thrive in this town. Football is, and always will be king. No matter how bad the Dolphins are and how good the Marlins are.

 

It's sad but true.

 

And what's even more sad is it's not even a good football town.

There really isn't a reason to go, especially on the weekends with football.

 

Exactly why baseball will never thrive in this town. Football is, and always will be king. No matter how bad the Dolphins are and how good the Marlins are.

 

It's sad but true.

 

And what's even more sad is it's not even a good football town.

 

that's true. how many times have local tv stations had to buy up 1,000s of tickets so the game isn't blacked out by the nfl....

Well, we're part of the people that aren't going. You can't say it's sad that nobody goes, when we don't go neither.

 

Who's "we"? I still go to the games...

So do I. When was the last time you went?

 

tuesday

lol same here. Hope you got your two free donuts and coffee at Dunkin Donuts

ive never seen Marlins attendence THAT small...

 

still, if I was in South Florida, I would have been there

I don't think Miami is even a good football town. Sure, the Dolphins supposedly sell-out their games (just like there are supposedly 10,000 people at the baseball game in that photo), but ever notice how many empty seat there are when you watch the Dolphins games on TV? Tons.

 

A friend of mine is a big Dolphins fan and he never buys a ticket ahead of time and always ends up getting a club seat for less than $25. People can't give those Dolphins tickets away.

 

Miami is just not a big sports town the way some other cities are. Probably never will be.

i was at a sunday game last year after the firesale and it was like 98 degrees and it was the most boring 3 hours of my entire life, and i'm a gigantic baseball and marlins fan. besides the fact that the team was in the midst of a losing streak, the ingame entertainment was non existent.

 

i vowed never to go back to a day game, unless there is something there to watch.

 

 

I don't buy the weather argument. It's not like it's any cooler for 1pm Dolphins games in September, and the Dolphins somehow manage to draw more than 400 people.

 

Can't blame it all on the weather.

 

Sport is entertainment. There is nothing entertaining about sitting out in 95 degree weather. Especially when your sport plays 5 other games a week. Football fans deal with it because the games are only played once a week.

 

Weather is a HUGE factor. Go to a Friday game and then go to a Sunday day game. 100% of the time the Friday game will outdraw the Sunday games because of the 7:05 start time.

Well, we're part of the people that aren't going. You can't say it's sad that nobody goes, when we don't go neither.

 

Who's "we"? I still go to the games...

So do I. When was the last time you went?

 

tuesday

lol same here. Hope you got your two free donuts and coffee at Dunkin Donuts

I was there. I've been to a bunch of Donut games but never get them. Do they keep your ticket or do you get to keep it?

 

i was at a sunday game last year after the firesale and it was like 98 degrees and it was the most boring 3 hours of my entire life, and i'm a gigantic baseball and marlins fan. besides the fact that the team was in the midst of a losing streak, the ingame entertainment was non existent.

 

i vowed never to go back to a day game, unless there is something there to watch.

 

 

I don't buy the weather argument. It's not like it's any cooler for 1pm Dolphins games in September, and the Dolphins somehow manage to draw more than 400 people.

 

Can't blame it all on the weather.

The difference is that if you want to go to a Dolphin game, you have a total of 8 chances, 7 this year, to go see them, and they are probably all at 1pm. On an average homestand, you'll have the same amount of chances to see the Marlins play within a week, with most of them being at 7:05pm.

 

Why go to the one extremely hot day game when you can just as easily, if not much more easily, go to a much cooler night game?

OMG.

 

that is SCARY.

Well, we're part of the people that aren't going. You can't say it's sad that nobody goes, when we don't go neither.

 

Who's "we"? I still go to the games...

So do I. When was the last time you went?

 

tuesday

lol same here. Hope you got your two free donuts and coffee at Dunkin Donuts

I was there. I've been to a bunch of Donut games but never get them. Do they keep your ticket or do you get to keep it?

 

i was at a sunday game last year after the firesale and it was like 98 degrees and it was the most boring 3 hours of my entire life, and i'm a gigantic baseball and marlins fan. besides the fact that the team was in the midst of a losing streak, the ingame entertainment was non existent.

 

i vowed never to go back to a day game, unless there is something there to watch.

 

 

I don't buy the weather argument. It's not like it's any cooler for 1pm Dolphins games in September, and the Dolphins somehow manage to draw more than 400 people.

 

Can't blame it all on the weather.

The difference is that if you want to go to a Dolphin game, you have a total of 8 chances, 7 this year, to go see them, and they are probably all at 1pm. On an average homestand, you'll have the same amount of chances to see the Marlins play within a week, with most of them being at 7:05pm.

 

Why go to the one extremely hot day game when you can just as easily, if not much more easily, go to a much cooler night game?

 

 

ehh they keep it, that's the only part that sucks

I may be mistaken but I believer baseball itself only logs paid attendance. I don't think you can find a place for actual attendance, you have to count it yourself.

 

But I could be wrong.

I have little knowledge of how attendance figures are tabulated. The ESPN box score for the game indicates 10,000 fans, but clearly the picture says otherwise. Clearly the picture indicates otherwise assuming no fans showed up later.

 

10,000 is the paid attendance? Why is that expressed in the box score instead of the actual attendance? And where can the actual attendance figures be found?

 

Marlins do three attendance figures:

 

1) Tickets sold

 

2) Tickets sold + tickets "comp'd" (AKA "official" attendance)

 

3) Tickets used (as in, scanned at the gate)

 

Good luck getting your hands on figures 1 & 3, even if the Marlins do keep them tabulated (which they absolutely 100% do).

So that picture is an accurate depiction of the crowd that was there for the entirety of the game (at least to the 7th inning)?

 

Nah it was twice as full going into the 3rd and 4th innings when the crowds usually completely file in.

this is pathetic , i went to afternoon game against the Giants , there was maybe 1000 people in the stands , i want to the marlins to get a new stadium because that means they are staying put but Miami is such a weak sports town dome or not most years the marlins attendance will stink

this is pathetic , i went to afternoon game against the Giants , there was maybe 1000 people in the stands , i want to the marlins to get a new stadium because that means they are staying put but Miami is such a weak sports town dome or not most years the marlins attendance will stink

 

The Panthers, Heat and Dolphins all draw well when they are good. Why would it be different for baseball? The Marlins have drawn well before.

this is pathetic , i went to afternoon game against the Giants , there was maybe 1000 people in the stands , i want to the marlins to get a new stadium because that means they are staying put but Miami is such a weak sports town dome or not most years the marlins attendance will stink

 

The Panthers, Heat and Dolphins all draw well when they are good. Why would it be different for baseball? The Marlins have drawn well before.

 

well put.

this is pathetic , i went to afternoon game against the Giants , there was maybe 1000 people in the stands , i want to the marlins to get a new stadium because that means they are staying put but Miami is such a weak sports town dome or not most years the marlins attendance will stink

 

The Panthers, Heat and Dolphins all draw well when they are good. Why would it be different for baseball? The Marlins have drawn well before.

 

the marlins baring the 1 st season really havent drawn well. 2nd football is different only 8 regular season home games and they usually fall on sunday(limited dates to watch nfl and most people dont work on sunday) , additionally the poster who stated dolphin games maybe listed as a sellout but they an awful lot of empty seats is correct.

this is pathetic , i went to afternoon game against the Giants , there was maybe 1000 people in the stands , i want to the marlins to get a new stadium because that means they are staying put but Miami is such a weak sports town dome or not most years the marlins attendance will stink

 

The Panthers, Heat and Dolphins all draw well when they are good. Why would it be different for baseball? The Marlins have drawn well before.

 

the marlins baring the 1 st season really havent drawn well. 2nd football is different only 8 regular season home games and they usually fall on sunday(limited dates to watch nfl and most people dont work on sunday) , additionally the poster who stated dolphin games maybe listed as a sellout but they an awful lot of empty seats is correct.

 

1993-1997= good

Latter half of 2003= good

2004-2005= respectable for a team in a football stadium

this is pathetic , i went to afternoon game against the Giants , there was maybe 1000 people in the stands , i want to the marlins to get a new stadium because that means they are staying put but Miami is such a weak sports town dome or not most years the marlins attendance will stink

 

The Panthers, Heat and Dolphins all draw well when they are good. Why would it be different for baseball? The Marlins have drawn well before.

 

Baseball's home schedule is substantially larger, the games go later, and unlike the other sports, the Marlins problem isn't that Miami won't, by and large show up, but that the 'residents' deem themselves fans of other teams. Partially because of displacement of the family, partially because of forged roots from Spring Training facilities that preexisted the Marlins (case in point, there are more Dodgers fans in Vero Beach than Marlins fans, and likely more Dodgers fans in Vero than there are Marlins fans in Fort Lauderdale).

 

That, and the bulk of the Marlins home-slate is played in the summer, AKA the "off-season" for South Florida, the Heat, Panthers and Dolphins play their home slate by and large "in season."

Wow that was a terrible crowd.

 

Whatever, its two horrible teams playing at 1pm mid week. People have other things to do than waste their time going to see a meaningless game.

this is pathetic , i went to afternoon game against the Giants , there was maybe 1000 people in the stands , i want to the marlins to get a new stadium because that means they are staying put but Miami is such a weak sports town dome or not most years the marlins attendance will stink

 

The Panthers, Heat and Dolphins all draw well when they are good. Why would it be different for baseball? The Marlins have drawn well before.

 

Baseball's home schedule is substantially larger, the games go later, and unlike the other sports, the Marlins problem isn't that Miami won't, by and large show up, but that the 'residents' deem themselves fans of other teams. Partially because of displacement of the family, partially because of forged roots from Spring Training facilities that preexisted the Marlins (case in point, there are more Dodgers fans in Vero Beach than Marlins fans, and likely more Dodgers fans in Vero than there are Marlins fans in Fort Lauderdale).

 

That, and the bulk of the Marlins home-slate is played in the summer, AKA the "off-season" for South Florida, the Heat, Panthers and Dolphins play their home slate by and large "in season."

 

How many "insert northern team here" fans are there in South Fla for all the other sports? I don't buy that argument one bit. All those other teams drew/draw well despite the large transplant population in South Florida. Baseball might have more games but it is still the 2nd sport in the United States. I just don't understand why baseball has succeeded in every city in the United States and Miami will be the lone exception. It makes no sense! Especially when you consider the large contingent of people from the Northeast (the birthplace of baseball) and the Caribbean (the current baseball hotspot).

Well, I still go to games and will renew for next year. I don't go to day games because I have a job to go to although I do plan to leave work early for the last home game of the season. Honestly, it really can be torture out there in 95 degree heat. I sit in the club section and when I go to a Sunday game sometimes I go inside for a few minutes just to get some A/C relief.

Estimated 400 people in the stands today, only 200 or so around for the end of the game.

 

Believed to be the smallest crowd to witness a MLB game in decades.

 

Way to go, South Florida. Way to show those politicians that 400 million for a new stadium would be money well-spent.

 

 

 

 

Did you go to the game?

Had to know all the excuses were going to surface once again in this thread. Don't know why transplants here are different than other cities with a huge transplant population, but it at least sounds good. Heat and humidity aren't any different here than it is in about a dozen other MLB cities. Time of day didn't affect the other day games being played Wed.

 

Truth is, there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for this emabarassment. NONE. I was even dreading going into work on Thursday because everyone I come into contact with knows I am a season ticket holder and huge Marlins fan. I was humiliated beyond words. I even considered putting a black bandage over my tattoo. But I went, held my head high, and took the ridicule. Just like I did when my Broncos lost a Super Bowl 55-10. Difference is, that one passed, this one won't.

 

When South Florida "fans" want someone or something to blame for this lousy attendance thing then they only need to look into a mirror and point. That's the bottom line. Plain and simple. Period.

 

Maybe it is time for this team to move. To ANY place that would show far more support and respect for a MLB franchise and it's players. Even someplace like Whatchascratchin, North Dakota would fill that bill.

Why don't the Marlins play these games in Jupiter? They really should have just moved the whole series up there. They'd probably draw more fans and it would give a chance for Palm Beach residents to watch the team.

 

Roger Dean Stadium only holds 7,000. Marlins haven't drawn below 10,000 this year.

 

Didn't you see the picture ? :blink: