April 5, 200818 yr Fredi Gonzalez is not a good manager. He doesn't even manage games, he sits on his ass and waits for the long ball to bail him out. SITUATION... Runners on first and second (Hanley and Andino, respectively), NO OUTS, 6th Inning, Tie Game, Dan Uggla the #2 hitter is up... What should you do? Ask Uggla to BUNT! That would leave runners on second and third with one out and the #3 and #4 hitters coming up. All you need is a sac fly or possibly even a grounder. Not only that, runners on second and third negates the double play possibillity. WHAT DOES FREDI DO? NOT A DAMN THING. Let's Uggla go up there and try to hit. What happens? Uggla pops up. No runners advance. Next batter? Jacobs grounds into an inning-ending double play. Fredi Gonzalez's conecpt of not moving runners (on steals, bunts, etc.) because he doesn't want to "give away outs" is well, STUPID. Especially considering the lineup the Marlins have. Our team gives away outs by going up to bat! We need to start manufacturing runs by moving runners and creating pressure. Oh, and Amezaga needs to be starting every day. He didn't do much tonight in the box score 0-2, 2 walks. But he is the only batter we have who knows how to work a count and take pitches. He had an AB that was about 13 pitches against Morris and ended up drawing the walk. It seems like every other hitter we have (especially Uggla) just goes up there and hacks at the first three pitches.
April 5, 200818 yr dan uggla does not and should not bunt. i had this problem with girardi. i thought he should tell people to bunt when people were on base just so they got a better shot at getting a run. but then i realized i was wrong. you know what gives em a better shot at a run? a potential single, double, triple, homer.... you're wrong, sorry.
April 5, 200818 yr Sorry Mr. Baker, but you shouldn't tell guys who can't really bunt to go out there and bunt.
April 5, 200818 yr Author dan uggla does not and should not bunt. i had this problem with girardi. i thought he should tell people to bunt when people were on base just so they got a better shot at getting a run. but then i realized i was wrong. you know what gives em a better shot at a run? a potential single, double, triple, homer.... you're wrong, sorry. Dan Uggla is a .240 hitter. You're going to be waiting a while for a potential single, double, triple, homer. And I think it's more the situation. 6th inning of a tie game. We need to scratch out a run. We have shown this year that scoring runs won't come easy. But nevermind, you're right. let's keep waiting for WALK-OFF HR's to bail us out.
April 5, 200818 yr Sorry Mr. Baker, but you shouldn't tell guys who can't really bunt to go out there and bunt. which I'm sure you're refering to http://www.vidilife.com/flash/flvplayer.sw...%26embed%3Dtrue
April 5, 200818 yr dan uggla does not and should not bunt. i had this problem with girardi. i thought he should tell people to bunt when people were on base just so they got a better shot at getting a run. but then i realized i was wrong. you know what gives em a better shot at a run? a potential single, double, triple, homer.... you're wrong, sorry. Dan Uggla is a .240 hitter. You're going to be waiting a while for a potential single, double, triple, homer. And I think it's more the situation. 6th inning of a tie game. We need to scratch out a run. We have shown this year that scoring runs won't come easy. But nevermind, you're right. let's keep waiting for WALK-OFF HR's to bail us out. By this "year", do you mean the four games we have played???? The first one of which we were dominated by the best pitcher in the game. It's a little premature to jump to that conclusion. I think this offense will be fine. Especially when Hermida comes back. You don't bunt in that situation with a runner already in scoring position and the heart of the order coming up. Uggla, Jacobs, and Willy have to drive runs in for us and you can't take the bat out of their hands. The jury is still out on Fredi, but he didn't do anything wrong last night.
April 5, 200818 yr Fredi Gonzalez is not a good manager. He doesn't even manage games, he sits on his ass and waits for the long ball to bail him out. SITUATION... Runners on first and second (Hanley and Andino, respectively), NO OUTS, 6th Inning, Tie Game, Dan Uggla the #2 hitter is up... What should you do? Ask Uggla to BUNT! That would leave runners on second and third with one out and the #3 and #4 hitters coming up. All you need is a sac fly or possibly even a grounder. Not only that, runners on second and third negates the double play possibillity. WHAT DOES FREDI DO? NOT A DAMN THING. Let's Uggla go up there and try to hit. What happens? Uggla pops up. No runners advance. Next batter? Jacobs grounds into an inning-ending double play. If it were the 8th, I'd almost give you a pass on that comment. But with 2 RBI men coming you wouldn't want one of them to bunt, especially when the other team has 9 outs left. Stupid as all hell. Bunts are for pitchers. Fredi Gonzalez's conecpt of not moving runners (on steals, bunts, etc.) because he doesn't want to "give away outs" is well, STUPID. Especially considering the lineup the Marlins have. Our team gives away outs by going up to bat! We need to start manufacturing runs by moving runners and creating pressure. Our lineup is potent. It does not give away outs by going to bat. Giving up an out does not create pressure, it eases pressure. Having to face 3 power hitters with men on creates pressure. Oh, and Amezaga needs to be starting every day. He didn't do much tonight in the box score 0-2, 2 walks. But he is the only batter we have who knows how to work a count and take pitches. He had an AB that was about 13 pitches against Morris and ended up drawing the walk. It seems like every other hitter we have (especially Uggla) just goes up there and hacks at the first three pitches. Amezega is a valuable player, he is not a valuable starter. At best, he is a platoon player for a team that lacks a better option. He is not even remotely as valuable as Uggla. He doesn't get on base more and hasn't even a fraction of the power.
April 5, 200818 yr Bunting runners over and giving the oppossing team (and struggling pitcher) an out is overrated and generally a bad play. Coupled with the fact that Uggla was at the plate, bunting would have been foolish.
April 5, 200818 yr Dan Uggla shouldn't be bunting especially in a situation like that. If its Alfredo then yeah u might look at it that way, and even with him u kno ur going to get a good AB cuz he works the count well.
April 5, 200818 yr Fredi Gonzalez is not a good manager. He doesn't even manage games, he sits on his ass and waits for the long ball to bail him out. SITUATION... Runners on first and second (Hanley and Andino, respectively), NO OUTS, 6th Inning, Tie Game, Dan Uggla the #2 hitter is up... What should you do? Ask Uggla to BUNT! That would leave runners on second and third with one out and the #3 and #4 hitters coming up. All you need is a sac fly or possibly even a grounder. Not only that, runners on second and third negates the double play possibillity. WHAT DOES FREDI DO? NOT A DAMN THING. Let's Uggla go up there and try to hit. What happens? Uggla pops up. No runners advance. Next batter? Jacobs grounds into an inning-ending double play. Fredi Gonzalez's conecpt of not moving runners (on steals, bunts, etc.) because he doesn't want to "give away outs" is well, STUPID. Especially considering the lineup the Marlins have. Our team gives away outs by going up to bat! We need to start manufacturing runs by moving runners and creating pressure. Couldnt agree more Fedi is an idiot for not accepting the concept of SMALL BALL. I dont care who your two hitter is in that situation you have to BUNT. Like my man said after all this BS talk about failing to advance runners and doing the little things YOU HAVE TO START UTILIZING THE BUNT. I dont know why he always refuses to do so. If you guys dont think Uggla should have bunted in that situation you are as dumb as freddy is
April 5, 200818 yr 6th inning? With a guy who hit 29 home runs and 50 doubles or whatever last year? Idiotic to bunt. If you don't think he should swing away in that situation, then you might as well trade him.
April 5, 200818 yr Sorry Mr. Baker, but you shouldn't tell guys who can't really bunt to go out there and bunt. which I'm sure you're refering to http://www.vidilife.com/flash/flvplayer.sw...%26embed%3Dtrue LMAO the announcer is was OWNED.. " you shouldn't let him come up to hit, he can't bunt... he's not a clutch hitter, he is not a clutch hitter" and then Encarnacion hits a HR and the other announcer says "is it clutch, is it clutch!"
April 5, 200818 yr When Amezage starts, he should be batting second. I know he doesnt provide much protection for Ramirez, but Uggla doesnt either as we can see from the two intentional walks already... Ramirez Amezaga Jacobs Willingham Uggla Cantu Gonzalez Treanor
April 5, 200818 yr When Amezage starts, he should be batting second. I know he doesnt provide much protection for Ramirez, but Uggla doesnt either as we can see from the two intentional walks already... Ramirez Amezaga Jacobs Willingham Uggla Cantu Gonzalez Treanor I agree Uggla is overrated, but his career OPS is .809 vs .656 for Alfredo, that's a big difference basing it on 2 intentional walks in the first week of the season is a little too soon to make any assumptions
April 5, 200818 yr The old bunt vs. swing away argument?? In a nutshell: - Over the long run, the more you bunt, the LESS runs you will score - Bunting will increase the probability that you score the one or two runners on base, but it reduces the chance of having a big inning. A good manager plays the situation. For example, early in the game it makes little sense to bunt unless you think it's going to be a very low scoring game. The increase probability that you will score one run is not worth giving up the chance of having a big inning. However, it certainly makes sense later in the game to think about bunting. As the game goes on, especially in a close game, you become more willing to sacrifice the chance at a big inning and more concerned with maximizing the chance at scoring maybe the single game winning run. It's a judgment call. I personally think Gonzalez doesn't bunt enough...and I think the numbers probably bear that out (too lazy to actually look). You would expect a team that doesn't bunt enough to score a lot of runs, but maybe not score those crucial runs in tight situations because they are unwilling to sacrifice the chance at a big inning. This shows up in the statistics as a team that may not have a huge run differential (i.e runs for vs. runs against), but has a horrible record.
April 5, 200818 yr When Amezage starts, he should be batting second. I know he doesnt provide much protection for Ramirez, but Uggla doesnt either as we can see from the two intentional walks already... Ramirez Amezaga Jacobs Willingham Uggla Cantu Gonzalez Treanor I agree Uggla is overrated, but his career OPS is .809 vs .656 for Alfredo, that's a big difference basing it on 2 intentional walks in the first week of the season is a little too soon to make any assumptions Plus I think Amezaga had the lowest RISP on the team last year for a non-pitcher.
April 5, 200818 yr Couldnt agree more Fedi is an idiot for not accepting the concept of SMALL BALL. I dont care who your two hitter is in that situation you have to BUNT. Like my man said after all this BS talk about failing to advance runners and doing the little things YOU HAVE TO START UTILIZING THE BUNT. I dont know why he always refuses to do so. If you guys dont think Uggla should have bunted in that situation you are as dumb as freddy is Small ball is for crap offenses that can't play with the big boys. Just for the record, before somebody pretends that the 2003 Marlins won because of small ball, that team scored less than their OPS indicated they should have.
April 5, 200818 yr If that was the 8th inning, maybe even the 7th, then it should be a bunt. Because it was the sixth it's not a terrible decision to swing away but I would have called for a bunt. Our bullpen is great, if it's only one run scored then so be it.
April 5, 200818 yr The old bunt vs. swing away argument?? In a nutshell: - Over the long run, the more you bunt, the LESS runs you will score - Bunting will increase the probability that you score the one or two runners on base, but it reduces the chance of having a big inning. The only situation where a sacrifice bunt makes it more likely for a runner to score is when there is a man on 2nd, and nobody out... and then that assumes that the bunter is any good at the job. Otherwise, swinging away thrice is more likely to score a baserunner.
April 5, 200818 yr http://www.tangotiger.net/RE9902.html Run expectancy chart. Learn it, live it, love it.
April 5, 200818 yr i would have bunted in that situation too...in our stadium...we should be trying to win games with pitching, speed and defense...not relying on the home run all the time...did everything work out last night? sure did...but we got two great assists in the outfield which potentially saved the game as for the argument that uggla cant bunt and he is a power hitter...i think that if you reach the major league baseball level...you should know how to bunt...its not very difficult and takes less than 2 minutes of practice a week to get good at it... i understand full well that when you bunt and give up an out, your chances for a big inning are diminished...and you know what i say...SO WHAT...we have alot of great hitters on our team...we are going to score runs irregardless...but sometimes...sometimes...you only need one or two...and then the pressure shifts to the other team to try to match you...and with our absolutely stellar bullpen...when the game starts to reach the later innings...we should be playing to scratch out a lead however we can rather than waiting for a big inning that is home run based
April 5, 200818 yr http://www.tangotiger.net/RE9902.html Run expectancy chart. Learn it, live it, love it. There is another matrix that also shows the likelyhood to score at least one run. I don't know where that is, but runner on 3rd 1 out is the only situation that is better than any 0 out scenario with runners on.
April 5, 200818 yr I also would have prefered to see a bunt in that situation with a tied game. It averts a potential double play also. The Marlins bullpen is their main area of strength, so playing for a one run lead there with a bunt to move the players over, and then maybe a sac fly would have been desirable. But its a matter of philosophy so I can understand why different people have different opinions on it.
April 5, 200818 yr i understand full well that when you bunt and give up an out, your chances for a big inning are diminished In almost every scenario, when you bunt and give up an out your chances of scoring ANY runs are diminished.
April 5, 200818 yr i understand full well that when you bunt and give up an out, your chances for a big inning are diminished In almost every scenario, when you bunt and give up an out your chances of scoring ANY runs are diminished. but in that situation we would have had 2nd and third with 1 out with jake and willy coming up who both were taking real good cuts against morris...that is definitely a situation in which you bunt
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