fauowls44 Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 New lineup today: Amezaga, Hermida, Ramirez, Jacobs, Cantu, Uggla, Gonzalez, Rabelo. http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_baseball_marlins/ I like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y08Marlin Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Good move. The offense was sputtering, it was time to mix it up. Lets see how it works. I'm still skeptical about Amezaga leading off full time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rydawg Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Good move. The offense was sputtering, it was time to mix it up. Lets see how it works. I'm still skeptical about Amezaga leading off full time. It was sputtering because we were without both Jacobs and Willingham.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerhead Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 New lineup today: Amezaga, Hermida, Ramirez, Jacobs, Cantu, Uggla, Gonzalez, Rabelo. About f***ing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 I love it. Great move by Fredi. And if this doesn't work, I guess most of us here were wrong. lol. At least now we get a chance to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ns2003 Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 New lineup today: Amezaga, Hermida, Ramirez, Jacobs, Cantu, Uggla, Gonzalez, Rabelo. About f***ing time. lmao my exact same words! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdg210 Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Good move. The offense was sputtering, it was time to mix it up. Lets see how it works. I'm still skeptical about Amezaga leading off full time. It was sputtering because we were without both Jacobs and Willingham.. Agreed. Hopefully, this is temporary since I like Hanley leading off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureGM Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Looks good to me. I've been thinking that Hanley's ability is being wasted in the leadoff spot. He is perfect for the third slot. I also like seeing Uggla finally out of the 2nd slot. He had WAYYY too many strikeouts to be hitting 2nd. Hermida is a better choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins97+03WC Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 yay!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamibaseball Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 marlins need this after what happen past few games. maybe this could help get run in by moving Ramirez he was not doing well as leadoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 YES! :thumbup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PitchingWinsGames Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Hopefully Hanley doesn't try to "do too much" from that spot... his success relies in him just relying on his talent. Like that Ryan Howard commercial "Everyone bats cleanup" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomarlins9703 Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Ross leading off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marlin Man Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 love love love this. I hope freddi sticks with it for a while regardless of results tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puma Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 The way I see it is like this: Alfredo Amezaga is NOT a leadoff hitter, but he's the best possible option because we do not have a true leadoff guy. I like Hermida hitting 2nd. Hanley is best suited for the #3 hole, and Uggla at # 6 is great. It's about time Fredi wised up. Too bad Willingham went on the DL though :confused otherwise it would be Amezaga, Hermida, Hanley, Jake, Hammer, Uggla, Cantu, Rabelo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Does this lineup show an end to Cody starting in center? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 How is Amezaga the closest thing we have to a true lead off guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 How is Amezaga the closest thing we have to a true lead off guy? Outside of Hanley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puma Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 How is Amezaga the closest thing we have to a true lead off guy? The team hasn't had a true leadoff guy since Juan Pierre. I'm guessing when Beinfest made the Beckett trade, he had plans for Hanley to be our future leadoff hitter, but it turned out he had way more power than anyone expected...so that kinda leaves us without a true leadoff hitter. But that's why we got Maybin :mischief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 How is Amezaga the closest thing we have to a true lead off guy? Outside of Hanley. How? What makes Pierre a lead off hitter? His leading off in 2005 crippled our offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 How is Amezaga the closest thing we have to a true lead off guy? Outside of Hanley. How? What makes Pierre a lead off hitter? His leading off in 2005 crippled our offense. Ok, who would you put first, outside of Hanley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 I'm just trying to reiterate the point I've been making all season. For a lead off hitter, on base abilities are absolutely pivotal. Amezaga in small sampling size this season has a decent OBP but his career numbers are closer to .317. Likewise for Juan Pierre, but if you look at the paradigm for his 2005-2007 seasons, his numbers are around .330. Typically you want to have a minimum of .360-.370 for your lead off and number two hitters. Amezaga is far from being the closest candidate in that respect. Having Hermida hitting before Ramirez is a start, but I am wondering why Gonzalez waited until Willingham went on the DL (one of our most disciplined at the plate) before he shuffled the lineup and finally moved Ramirez third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYmarlins Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 i love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bret Hart Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 As you know, Hermida turned "Patient hitter(good BB-K ratio)" to "Agressive hitter(bad BB-K ratio)" after he took the 3rd spot in 2007. so, could he go back to old hitting style as a minor leaguer? I just doubt about it. No.2 spot was very important part of run-scored, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y08Marlin Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 I'm just trying to reiterate the point I've been making all season. For a lead off hitter, on base abilities are absolutely pivotal. Amezaga in small sampling size this season has a decent OBP but his career numbers are closer to .317. Likewise for Juan Pierre, but if you look at the paradigm for his 2005-2007 seasons, his numbers are around .330. Typically you want to have a minimum of .360-.370 for your lead off and number two hitters. Amezaga is far from being the closest candidate in that respect. Having Hermida hitting before Ramirez is a start, but I am wondering why Gonzalez waited until Willingham went on the DL (one of our most disciplined at the plate) before he shuffled the lineup and finally moved Ramirez third. We all know that Pierre has struggled recently. I think he is only suited for a bench role now. But before his production fell off, he WAS a prototypical lead off hitter. I don't think anyone wants Pierre back (I hope), but I do would be glad to have Pierre five or six years ago back. I understand your point and agree with you; however, other than Hanley and Hermida, no one on the team has a history of high OBP. I like the lineup change despite the fact that I don't think Amezaga is perfect, mainly because I appreciate seeing Uggla move down the order. I just don't see anyway the team can meet your demands with its current personnel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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