The apologists are hilarious.

 

But of course, that's a sports fan for you. It's perfectly fine when it's your team, but when it's someone else's, it's ridiculous.

 

Keep living in denial though. Provides a good laugh for the rational people.

I hope you weren't talking about me, because my point was why is it perfectly fine when it is someone else's team but not ours?

 

Its not ok for anyone and there is no excuse for it. 600 for a game is a joke.

 

Attendance is what it is.

So you're going 6 years to a game against the Pirates to show how this happens all the time? Not to mention 2002 had the lowest attendance in franchise history.

 

No team can expect people to come out in this weather on a weekday, whether it is a team that usually brings in 16K or a team that usually brings in 26K. The Texas game proved that.

 

Also, I don't consider people who don't know the names of the players part of the "fans".

 

 

 

Get a life, so I quicky wrote casitillo instead of castillo. Lets point out that I mentioned a game against the Tigers and you called them the Pirates if you want to get technical.

So you're going 6 years to a game against the Pirates to show how this happens all the time? Not to mention 2002 had the lowest attendance in franchise history.

 

No team can expect people to come out in this weather on a weekday, whether it is a team that usually brings in 16K or a team that usually brings in 26K. The Texas game proved that.

 

Also, I don't consider people who don't know the names of the players part of the "fans".

 

 

 

Get a life, so I quicky wrote casitillo instead of castillo. Lets point out that I mentioned a game against the Tigers and you called them the Pirates if you want to get technical.

Wow. I actually wasn't talking about you at all. I didn't even realize your typo. Honestly.

 

I was referring to people who only jump on the bandwagon during championships. Those people can't name a single player on this team, so I don't count them as fans.

 

Also, I thought you were referring to a game against the Pirates, but that did happen a bunch of times in 2002. The game I am referring to was a Friday game against the Pirates where about 4,200 showed up. Like I said, the 2002 season had the lowest attendance in franchise history by a huge margin, only bringing in about 800,000 fans all year.

 

But like I was saying, this doesn't happen all the time. If you can come up with another game like this one in recent memory, but that did not happen under the stupidest of scheduling circumstances, I'll concede that it happens "all the time".

11,000+ tickets were sold. That's still low, but considering it was a day game and the team isnt going anywhere its normal for small market teams. Who gives a flying f*** if only 600 actually showed up, the team deserved it after that 16-14 debacle. If I had a ticket I dont think I wouldve skipped worked, sat through 100 degree weather to watch that game either, and I'm someone who usually goes to at least 30-40 games a year even though I live pretty damn far.

So you're going 6 years to a game against the Pirates to show how this happens all the time? Not to mention 2002 had the lowest attendance in franchise history.

 

No team can expect people to come out in this weather on a weekday, whether it is a team that usually brings in 16K or a team that usually brings in 26K. The Texas game proved that.

 

Also, I don't consider people who don't know the names of the players part of the "fans".

 

 

 

Get a life, so I quicky wrote casitillo instead of castillo. Lets point out that I mentioned a game against the Tigers and you called them the Pirates if you want to get technical.

Wow. I actually wasn't talking about you at all. I didn't even realize your typo. Honestly.

 

I was referring to people who only jump on the bandwagon during championships. Those people can't name a single player on this team, so I don't count them as fans.

 

Also, I thought you were referring to a game against the Pirates, but that did happen a bunch of times in 2002. The game I am referring to was a Friday game against the Pirates where about 4,200 showed up. Like I said, the 2002 season had the lowest attendance in franchise history by a huge margin, only bringing in about 800,000 fans all year.

 

But like I was saying, this doesn't happen all the time. If you can come up with another game like this one in recent memory, but that did not happen under the stupidest of scheduling circumstances, I'll concede that it happens "all the time".

 

 

I'm sorry, I thought you were calling me out.

 

Just look at the 2002 season (check out the marlins schedule on espn.com) look how many games had sub 10,000 crowds. I remember a game a where john henry invited everyone down behind home plate because there were so little people.

 

There was a picture in SI a few years back that showed less than 1,000 people at a game.

 

I admit that putting a game in the middle of a day is absurd, especially now that school is in session. 600 is still terrible. I guess this is just the straw that broke the camels back for me. I've always defended the marlins attendance issues, but whats the point anymore? We are clearly the worst.

 

With that said a new stadium, central location and some stability should work wonders for creating a good fan base.

My point is that this game was put in a position where failure was imminent. As I've said something like 6000 times already, this happened both to us, who bring in an average of 16,000 a game, and to Texas, who brings in 25,000 a game. You just can't expect people to show up under those conditions.

 

Our attendance sucks, that's a given, but to say that this is something that happens all the time is completely wrong. This is not 2002, this is 2008 (obvious!). They days of only 4,000 people showing up to a Friday night game are long gone. 600 is terrible but not as terrible as the fact that two different organizations didn't even think about how ridiculous it would be to schedule a game at that time.

On the plus side, due to the Super Saturdays, do we not get close to like 30,000 every Saturday night now?

On the plus side, due to the Super Saturdays, do we not get close to like 30,000 every Saturday night now?

25,846 on average. Which is pretty good for us. Two of those games drew 37,689 (vs the Padres) and 39,124 (vs the Cubs).

On the flip side, Boston vs Baltimore yesterday at 1pm, 37,000, hope one day with the new stadium we will see that for an afternoon game.

On the flip side, Boston vs Baltimore yesterday at 1pm, 37,000, hope one day with the new stadium we will see that for an afternoon game.

Well, it's Boston. They sell out every game. Plus, it was 75 degrees, not 90. If it was 90, they would have had only 36,000 fans.

On the flip side, Boston vs Baltimore yesterday at 1pm, 37,000, hope one day with the new stadium we will see that for an afternoon game.

 

new stadium or not, we will never get that for an afternoon game

thats Fenway Park we are talking about

On the plus side, due to the Super Saturdays, do we not get close to like 30,000 every Saturday night now?

25,846 on average. Which is pretty good for us. Two of those games drew 37,689 (vs the Padres) and 39,124 (vs the Cubs).

 

why so many for the Padres game? who was performing after the game?

On the plus side, due to the Super Saturdays, do we not get close to like 30,000 every Saturday night now?

25,846 on average. Which is pretty good for us. Two of those games drew 37,689 (vs the Padres) and 39,124 (vs the Cubs).

 

why so many for the Padres game? who was performing after the game?

EL GRAN COMBO DE PUERTO RICO!

 

I wish we could bring them in twice a year, they always bring gigantic crowds.

Sad that the Marlins need to bring in bands and singers to attract people to the ballpark on a Saturday night.

Sad that the Marlins need to bring in bands and singers to attract people to the ballpark on a Saturday night.

 

Maybe.

But it appears to be working.

Sad that the Marlins need to bring in bands and singers to attract people to the ballpark on a Saturday night.

 

Maybe.

But it appears to be working.

Exactly.

I didn't say it wasn't working. I said it was sad that they have to resort to this nonsense.

Wasn't there a meaningless game in 1989 or so between the Indians and Tigers in Cleveland, where the press counted something like 38 people in the stands? That franchise was able to turn things around. It takes support, though. Effort from the local politicians, an ownership that cares and is committed to making baseball work in the area, a front office that knows their stuff, and a fanbase willing to give the organization another chance. A new stadium is nothing but an opportunity to make those things come together.

I didn't say it wasn't working. I said it was sad that they have to resort to this nonsense.

 

Yea, I can see why it could be sad. But we aren't the only ones doing it. The Rays are doing it too. The Orioles are showing a movie at the end of Saturday night games.

I didn't say it wasn't working. I said it was sad that they have to resort to this nonsense.

 

Yea, I can see why it could be sad. But we aren't the only ones doing it. The Rays are doing it too. The Orioles are showing a movie at the end of Saturday night games.

MOVIES?! Wow.

 

In addition to us and the Rays, I know the Astros and the Diamondbacks also do them.

 

In addition, it is expanding to more teams. The Red Sox, the Giants, the Cubs, the Brewers, and the Padres have all discussed bringing MLB into this and making it a joint league venture.

Back in the late 60s, I recall the vaunted NYY announced a crowd of 413.

 

That's right - four hundred and thirteen.

 

It was like a rainy Thursday afternoon during the "Horace Clarke Years".

It's even on the Yahoo front page :lol .