March 25, 200917 yr The Padres have reportedly claimed RHP Eulogio De La Cruz off waivers from the Marlins. Because he was out of options, De La Cruz appeared to have a very good chance of making the Marlins, and he had hardly embarrassed himself while giving up four runs -- two earned -- in 5 1/3 innings this spring. He's an excellent pickup for the Padres. With his 92-95 mph fastball and plus changeup, he has the stuff to serve as a setup man or maybe a closer someday. He's easily a better bet than either relief prospect the team picked up from the Cardinals in the Khalil Greene deal. ---- DUMB
March 25, 200917 yr The Padres have reportedly claimed RHP Eulogio De La Cruz off waivers from the Marlins. Because he was out of options, De La Cruz appeared to have a very good chance of making the Marlins, and he had hardly embarrassed himself while giving up four runs -- two earned -- in 5 1/3 innings this spring. He's an excellent pickup for the Padres. With his 92-95 mph fastball and plus changeup, he has the stuff to serve as a setup man or maybe a closer someday. He's easily a better bet than either relief prospect the team picked up from the Cardinals in the Khalil Greene deal. ---- DUMB I was about to make the exact same post. VERY DUMB. And why in the hell didn't they wait till after spring training in hopes of making it easier to slip him through waivers?
March 25, 200917 yr It might not be "official", but since he is out of options, I'm almost 100% positive that means it's irrevocable. The only way he doesn't end up in a Padres uni is if WAS claims him (Which they probably should). RRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEE our bad bullpen likely just got worse.
March 25, 200917 yr The Padres have reportedly claimed RHP Eulogio De La Cruz off waivers from the Marlins. Because he was out of options, De La Cruz appeared to have a very good chance of making the Marlins, and he had hardly embarrassed himself while giving up four runs -- two earned -- in 5 1/3 innings this spring. He's an excellent pickup for the Padres. With his 92-95 mph fastball and plus changeup, he has the stuff to serve as a setup man or maybe a closer someday. He's easily a better bet than either relief prospect the team picked up from the Cardinals in the Khalil Greene deal. ---- DUMB Nothing we can't replace.
March 25, 200917 yr Author It might not be "official", but since he is out of options, I'm almost 100% positive that means it's irrevocable. The only way he doesn't end up in a Padres uni is if WAS claims him (Which they probably should). RRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEE our bad bullpen likely just got worse. Man, this one is just really bad. I understand he may not be ready and could use another year in AAA, but it's not like we have superior options, and very very few pitchers in the organization (Tucker, Ceda, then it's arguable) have as much upside as he has for the bullpen.
March 25, 200917 yr The Padres have reportedly claimed RHP Eulogio De La Cruz off waivers from the Marlins. Because he was out of options, De La Cruz appeared to have a very good chance of making the Marlins, and he had hardly embarrassed himself while giving up four runs -- two earned -- in 5 1/3 innings this spring. He's an excellent pickup for the Padres. With his 92-95 mph fastball and plus changeup, he has the stuff to serve as a setup man or maybe a closer someday. He's easily a better bet than either relief prospect the team picked up from the Cardinals in the Khalil Greene deal. ---- DUMB I was about to make the exact same post. VERY DUMB. And why in the hell didn't they wait till after spring training in hopes of making it easier to slip him through waivers? sh*t, if they were that hellbeng on waiving him, why not let him start in proctors DL spot and waive him during the season when Proctor is back? Not that it really matters, he'd be claimed irregardless. I don't care if irregardless isn't a word.
March 25, 200917 yr Man, this one is just really bad. I understand he may not be ready and could use another year in AAA, but it's not like we have superior options, and very very few pitchers in the organization (Tucker, Ceda, then it's arguable) have as much upside as he has for the bullpen. Hell, I even call "not being ready" bull. One of the reasons he was so bad in the majors was they kept using him for multiple innings. He didn't go as hard, and his fast ball velo dropped. The one time he went one inning, he touched, what was it, 98? When he was going multiple innings, he was what, sitting on 92? I mean yeah, out the gates, this season, maybe he only puts up a 4+ ERA. But the potential he has, man. And what are we replacing him with? A 4+ ERA pitcher. Maybe DLC never becomes something more than a 4+ ERA RP. But what are we replacing him with?
March 25, 200917 yr The Padres have reportedly claimed RHP Eulogio De La Cruz off waivers from the Marlins. Because he was out of options, De La Cruz appeared to have a very good chance of making the Marlins, and he had hardly embarrassed himself while giving up four runs -- two earned -- in 5 1/3 innings this spring. He's an excellent pickup for the Padres. With his 92-95 mph fastball and plus changeup, he has the stuff to serve as a setup man or maybe a closer someday. He's easily a better bet than either relief prospect the team picked up from the Cardinals in the Khalil Greene deal. ---- DUMB I was about to make the exact same post. VERY DUMB. And why in the hell didn't they wait till after spring training in hopes of making it easier to slip him through waivers? sh*t, if they were that hellbeng on waiving him, why not let him start in proctors DL spot and waive him during the season when Proctor is back? Not that it really matters, he'd be claimed irregardless. I don't care if irregardless isn't a word. You're right that he'd probably be claimed either way. But not just Proctor's spot - how about Miller's spot, since we don't need a 5th stater for the first 2 weeks? At least give it a fighting chance. I mean, there's no way they put 7 guys out there who are superior to Frankie on opening day. That's the bottom line as to why this was really a poor move (at least on the surface, but I'm not sure if there can be anything beneath the surface. I'm pretty sure that what you see is what you get).
March 25, 200917 yr Author The Padres have reportedly claimed RHP Eulogio De La Cruz off waivers from the Marlins. Because he was out of options, De La Cruz appeared to have a very good chance of making the Marlins, and he had hardly embarrassed himself while giving up four runs -- two earned -- in 5 1/3 innings this spring. He's an excellent pickup for the Padres. With his 92-95 mph fastball and plus changeup, he has the stuff to serve as a setup man or maybe a closer someday. He's easily a better bet than either relief prospect the team picked up from the Cardinals in the Khalil Greene deal. ---- DUMB I was about to make the exact same post. VERY DUMB. And why in the hell didn't they wait till after spring training in hopes of making it easier to slip him through waivers? sh*t, if they were that hellbeng on waiving him, why not let him start in proctors DL spot and waive him during the season when Proctor is back? Not that it really matters, he'd be claimed irregardless. I don't care if irregardless isn't a word. You're right that he'd probably be claimed either way. But not just Proctor's spot - how about Miller's spot, since we don't need a 5th stater for the first 2 weeks? At least give it a fighting chance. I mean, there's no way they put 7 guys out there who are superior to Frankie on opening day. That's the bottom line as to why this was really a poor move (at least on the surface, but I'm not sure if there can be anything beneath the surface. I'm pretty sure that what you see is what you get). Well Miller wouldn't be replacing anyone. Healthy bullpen - Lindstrom, Nunez, Proctor, Kensing, Badenhop/Calero, Pinto, Meyer with Lindstrom and Proctor out, the other of Hopper and Calero has to be a lock, and whose left? Vanden Hurk? C. Martinez? Hell, Koronka?
March 25, 200917 yr You're right that he'd probably be claimed either way. But not just Proctor's spot - how about Miller's spot, since we don't need a 5th stater for the first 2 weeks? At least give it a fighting chance. I mean, there's no way they put 7 guys out there who are superior to Frankie on opening day. That's the bottom line as to why this was really a poor move (at least on the surface, but I'm not sure if there can be anything beneath the surface. I'm pretty sure that what you see is what you get). Well Miller wouldn't be replacing anyone. Healthy bullpen - Lindstrom, Nunez, Proctor, Kensing, Badenhop/Calero, Pinto, Meyer with Lindstrom and Proctor out, the other of Hopper and Calero has to be a lock, and whose left? Vanden Hurk? C. Martinez? Hell, Koronka? I know that Miller isn't replacing anyone. I just meant that if they send him to the minors to pick up a couple of starts, then there is yet ANOTHER spot open in the bullpen for opening day, at least. Even if Lindstrom pitches opening day, we should still be able to carry 8 relievers, assuming Miller is sent down. With Proctor out: Lindstrom, Nunez, Kensing, Calero, Pinto, Meyer, Hopper, and there's STILL a missing pitcher. And I think DLC is probably a big better than AT LEAST Hopper right now, and maybe superior to Calero and Kensing, as far as just righties are concerned.
March 25, 200917 yr Author He'll be out of the league in three years. Very unlikely with his pure stuff and age. He'll at minimum bounce around for 5 years to see if he is a late bloomer. And you should really check out how Petco helped Linebrink, Bell, and Meredith. That place create relievers. And regardless, that's not the point. You can't name many better RP right now that are better or offer more upside than Cruz, and that is the problem. Keeping a Badenhop (with options) or C. Martinez (with options) on your team over Cruz, is atrocious player management. This is an abysmal move. It's hard to defend them when what, the 3rd or 4th worst team on waivers claims him. It's not like he even got through 5 times on waivers. Doesn't that tell you something?
March 25, 200917 yr eh, I'd be more upset in the fact that he was another main part of the Cabrera trade that has yet to pan out. Miller has shown control issues in his time in the majors, Rabelo is a bad BACKUP, Trahern has yet to reach the majors if he ever does, Badenhop is a mystery at this point, most likely an average middle reliever he's gonna be throughout his career, and the only one to really show MUCH promise is Maybin. Cruz had good stuff, he seemed to suffer from the same issue as Miller, control. You can never be successful in the MLB without control, regardless of whether you have a 99 mph fastball or not. Most likely the marlins saw that he was never going to get his control issues fixed, so better to give a man with a chance to succeed a roster spot.
March 25, 200917 yr He'll be out of the league in three years. Very unlikely with his pure stuff and age. He'll at minimum bounce around for 5 years to see if he is a late bloomer. And you should really check out how Petco helped Linebrink, Bell, and Meredith. That place create relievers. And regardless, that's not the point. You can't name many better RP right now that are better or offer more upside than Cruz, and that is the problem. Keeping a Badenhop (with options) or C. Martinez (with options) on your team over Cruz, is atrocious player management. This is an abysmal move. It's hard to defend them when what, the 3rd or 4th worst team on waivers claims him. It's not like he even got through 5 times on waivers. Doesn't that tell you something? Obviously Beinfest wasn't too worried about losing one of the more intimidating (ahahahaah) pitchers on the staff. Its a possibility that he is better than what we have left, but we have mixed and matched our bullpen for years, De La Cruz is very replaceable.
March 25, 200917 yr Padres Acquire Eulogio De La Cruz By Tim Dierkes [March 25 at 5:16pm CST] According to MLB.com's Corey Brock, the Padres acquired pitcher Eulogio De La Cruz from the Marlins today for a player to be named later or cash. Cruz is out of options, so the Padres may have to keep him in the Majors to retain him. Cruz, 25, posted a 4.34 ERA in 25 starts at Triple A last year. He came to Florida as part of the Miguel Cabrera deal in December of '07. Cruz fits the Padres' desire for hard-throwing pitchers.
March 25, 200917 yr It's hard to defend them when what, the 3rd or 4th worst team on waivers claims him. It's not like he even got through 5 times on waivers. Doesn't that tell you something? 2nd, only WAS is ahead of them. And surprised WAS didn't claim him (though they still have time lol)
March 25, 200917 yr Padres Acquire Eulogio De La Cruz By Tim Dierkes [March 25 at 5:16pm CST] According to MLB.com's Corey Brock, the Padres acquired pitcher Eulogio De La Cruz from the Marlins today for a player to be named later or cash. Cruz is out of options, so the Padres may have to keep him in the Majors to retain him. Hopefully the cash we get in return, is the cash from the Geico commercial. That would lower the level of pain from this loss.
March 25, 200917 yr Wouldn't you think that there's a reason the 40 man is now the 36 man, I know I do. You can't look at DLC in a vacuum, the same thing is going on at 29 other spring training sites. I like DLC, have for a pretty long while but time marches on. There's another kid coming up through the system, and another, another, maybe he'll find his niche with the Padres but obviously the front office is executing their plan and he wasn't part of it.
March 25, 200917 yr The original article changed from they claimed him on waivers to they traded for him for cash or a PTBNL. So, it seems he was NOT DFA'd but rather traded. Which at least makes more sense. I don't agree with it, but you don't lose a player like DLC for nothing.
March 25, 200917 yr Author Obviously Beinfest wasn't too worried about losing one of the more intimidating (ahahahaah) pitchers on the staff. Its a possibility that he is better than what we have left, but we have mixed and matched our bullpen for years, De La Cruz is very replaceable. That's not the point. The point is how you get every last bit of value out of everything you do. We may have given away Nelson, and now Cruz, away for free. And each of them is capable of throwing 60+ innings at under a 4 era. I have a problem with these kinds of moves, even if we can just acquire the next Calero, or whoever, to basically do the same thing.
March 25, 200917 yr The original article changed from they claimed him on waivers to they traded for him for cash or a PTBNL. So, it seems he was NOT DFA'd but rather traded. Which at least makes more sense. I don't agree with it, but you don't lose a player like DLC for nothing. Peavy Peavy Peavy!!! :cool
March 25, 200917 yr Wouldn't you think that there's a reason the 40 man is now the 36 man, I know I do. You can't look at DLC in a vacuum, the same thing is going on at 29 other spring training sites. I like DLC, have for a pretty long while but time marches on. There's another kid coming up through the system, and another, another, maybe he'll find his niche with the Padres but obviously the front office is executing their plan and he wasn't part of it. If you had ever heard of him in the Tigers organization then I give you major props. If not, then you've only known of his existence for the past 15 months, and have only seen him pitch for the past year. What has he ever done to impress all you people??? This is a minor deal in the long run everybody, minor.
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