OMG!!! Graham Taylor? What does he have to do with anything? OMG OMG!!! We released a 5 foot 5 reliever. OMG!!

 

You guys crack me up.

I think it's funny you have brought up Ceda, Waecther, and others saying "Beinfest always does this," then got called out on how that has nothing to do with Cruz, and then when somebody brings up Graham, you do the same defense you got called out on just moments ago of, what does that have to do with anything? Awesome. What it means is two things. One, you are very inconsistent, and Two, I would guess the general assumption is from whoever made that comment, if you are a Graham Taylor fan, Cruz is a much stronger prospect than him. So if you like Taylor and don't like Cruz, that basically means you don't quite understand much about our prospects which is pretty damning to your opinion.

 

But whatever. Beinfest can do no wrong and releasing RP that are clearly good enough for Tampa and San Diego's 25 man roster is totally fine and we can't be annoyed about it.

Not once have I stated that De La Cruz is "garbage." An average-talented, undersized reliever, yes, but never "garbage."

And I'm not saying he doesn't have value. I'm just saying he is no more valuable than many other relieving options we have now and in the upcoming year or so.

 

 

As of RIGHT NOW... who (ML READY) would you put in the bullpen to start the season?... I'll give you a suggestion, a ton of names have been thrown around here, use them.

OMG!!! Graham Taylor? What does he have to do with anything? OMG OMG!!! We released a 5 foot 5 reliever. OMG!!

 

You guys crack me up.

I think it's funny you have brought up Ceda, Waecther, and others saying "Beinfest always does this," then got called out on how that has nothing to do with Cruz, and then when somebody brings up Graham, you do the same defense you got called out on just moments ago of, what does that have to do with anything? Awesome. What it means is two things. One, you are very inconsistent, and Two, I would guess the general assumption is from whoever made that comment, if you are a Graham Taylor fan, Cruz is a much stronger prospect than him. So if you like Taylor and don't like Cruz, that basically means you don't quite understand much about our prospects which is pretty damning to your opinion.

 

But whatever. Beinfest can do no wrong and releasing RP that are clearly good enough for Tampa and San Diego's 25 man roster is totally fine and we can't be annoyed about it.

 

Where are all the Graham Taylor supporters out there? lol

De La Cruz's departure just doesn't mean anything to me. I'm not impressed by what he brings to the table. His loss, IMO, is easily absorbed by others. That is the basis of my argument.

 

I apologize for blurring that by throwing other names out there and sarcastically using responses similar to those used by others.

Making room for Ohman?

Making room for Ohman?

 

that would be cool but unless his asking price of 2 million comes down it won't happen.

Making room for Ohman?

 

that would be cool but unless his asking price of 2 million comes down it won't happen.

 

It's almost the end of spring, how can he continue to ask that much?

Making room for Ohman?

 

that would be cool but unless his asking price of 2 million comes down it won't happen.

 

It's almost the end of spring, how can he continue to ask that much?

 

i'm not sure it's true i just read it on mlbrumors.com which isn't the most reliable site.

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/03/rose...edro-ohman.html

That 25 man roster is becoming a tough cookie to crack, a year or 2 ago DLC would have been one of our top relievers. That is what happens when you stockpile talent

Wouldn't you think that there's a reason the 40 man is now the 36 man, I know I do. You can't look at DLC in a vacuum, the same thing is going on at 29 other spring training sites. I like DLC, have for a pretty long while but time marches on. There's another kid coming up through the system, and another, another, maybe he'll find his niche with the Padres but obviously the front office is executing their plan and he wasn't part of it.

 

If you had ever heard of him in the Tigers organization then I give you major props. If not, then you've only known of his existence for the past 15 months, and have only seen him pitch for the past year.

 

What has he ever done to impress all you people??? This is a minor deal in the long run everybody, minor.

 

Good organizations make smart minor moves as well as major. How are we supposed to win a division when we gave away our entire bullpen for free? We cut loose guys like Waechter and Nelson for nothing, now we've waived Delgado, Garcia, and Cruz. Baseball has a 162 game season which still manages to come down to the wire every year. Several games can mean the difference between a chance at a series or going home. If one of these "minor" moves costs us three games, its really not that minor at all.

 

It's not going to be entertaining to watch this team struggle to win games this year because it has absolutely no bench and no bullpen. We were close to making the playoffs last year despite a notable void in the rotation, yet all we've done since then is give away talent without bringing in anything but a slap hitting infielder, a bullpen arm, and a bullpen project. I'm not content with that.

wow, we are getting more people whining about us releasing De La Cruz than we got people who whined about Nelson leaving, who was our best reliever last season. Crazy world we're living in.

 

I whined then and I am whining. Consider my whining cumulative.

http://florida.marlins.mlb.com/news/articl...sp&c_id=fla

eh, I'd be more upset in the fact that he was another main part of the Cabrera trade that has yet to pan out. Miller has shown control issues in his time in the majors, Rabelo is a bad BACKUP, Trahern has yet to reach the majors if he ever does, Badenhop is a mystery at this point, most likely an average middle reliever he's gonna be throughout his career, and the only one to really show MUCH promise is Maybin.

 

Cruz had good stuff, he seemed to suffer from the same issue as Miller, control. You can never be successful in the MLB without control, regardless of whether you have a 99 mph fastball or not. Most likely the marlins saw that he was never going to get his control issues fixed, so better to give a man with a chance to succeed a roster spot.

 

Trahern will pitch in the majors this year. Mark my words

This guy was garbage. GOOD RIDDANCE.

 

Can't wait till they get rid of Tank.

i dont like this move at all....he should have been given a fair chance.

Trahern will pitch in the majors this year. Mark my words

Probably, but this may be an indication of lack of SP depth if one of the 5 go down, rather than if Trahern is really ready.

 

I'd hope for a really strong AAA year, and then let him compete for the 5th SP slot against West, Thompson, and Badenhop in 2010. Then maybe turning him into our Kyle McClellan when West beats him out with the superior upside. I know he's your boy, but I'm just being honest here. He'd be a nice bullpen change of pace to the other RHP fire ballers (Tucker, Ceda, Leroux) we have coming up real soon. And a nice backup starter at the MLB level.

Good organizations make smart minor moves as well as major. How are we supposed to win a division when we gave away our entire bullpen for free? We cut loose guys like Waechter and Nelson for nothing, now we've waived Delgado, Garcia, and Cruz. Baseball has a 162 game season which still manages to come down to the wire every year. Several games can mean the difference between a chance at a series or going home. If one of these "minor" moves costs us three games, its really not that minor at all.

 

It's not going to be entertaining to watch this team struggle to win games this year because it has absolutely no bench and no bullpen. We were close to making the playoffs last year despite a notable void in the rotation, yet all we've done since then is give away talent without bringing in anything but a slap hitting infielder, a bullpen arm, and a bullpen project. I'm not content with that.

This.

 

Probably not a back breaker longterm, but it's just shoddy roster management dumping all these RP all the freaking time for nothing. Hopefully the PTBNL is a similar prospect to Cruz so this one doesn't join the lose for nothing list.

Padres acquired RHP Eulogio De La Cruz from the Marlins for cash considerations.

It wasn't a straight waiver claim, but it's still a nice grab for the Padres. De La Cruz lacks polish for a 25-year-old, but he has the stuff to excel out of the pen and it's possible he'll break through this year.

 

N/M previous post. We're getting a couple of bucks not a PTBNL. Awesome.

why does that not shock me...

Not sure if it was mentioned but we signed some lefty called Carlos Vasquez to a minor league deal after trading DLC to SD.

 

In addition, the Marlins also signed left-hander Carlos Vasquez to a minor-league deal. Vasquez is coming off a World Baseball Classic run with Venezuela, allowing two runs on three hits with no walks and six strikeouts in 4 2/3 innings.

 

One of those strikeouts came in a pivotal situation in Miami against Puerto Rico in a game that determined the first WBC semifinalist. With runners at the corners and two outs in the fifth inning, Vasquez struck out Carlos Delgado on five pitches (all strikes) to preserve a 1-0 Venezuela lead.

 

Signed initially by the Cubs in 2000, Vasquez, 25, spent last season in the Red Sox organization and split time between high Class-A Lancaster and Double-A Portland. He has yet to reach the majors.

I wish we coulda kept him but i dont think this will make or break us. Good luck to the Padres announcers pronouncing his first name.

what pisses me off even more was that he was having a good spring.

This guy was garbage. GOOD RIDDANCE.

 

Can't wait till they get rid of Tank.

You're a large amount of wrong.

Trahern will pitch in the majors this year. Mark my words

Probably, but this may be an indication of lack of SP depth if one of the 5 go down, rather than if Trahern is really ready.

 

I'd hope for a really strong AAA year, and then let him compete for the 5th SP slot against West, Thompson, and Badenhop in 2010. Then maybe turning him into our Kyle McClellan when West beats him out with the superior upside. I know he's your boy, but I'm just being honest here. He'd be a nice bullpen change of pace to the other RHP fire ballers (Tucker, Ceda, Leroux) we have coming up real soon. And a nice backup starter at the MLB level.

 

I wish Dallas hadnt gotten hurt last year. You guys didnt see the Trahern that the Marlins traded for. He pitched the entire year with an open cut on the thumb of his pitching hand. Add to that he was in Albuquerque as a sinker ball pitcher. He worked with Rob Walton (USA baseball College team/ORU HC) this off season. I think you will be pleasantly surprised this year.

 

The Tigers people werent impressed with him early either. He's not going to be a strikeout pitcher. He will generate a bunch of ground balls. He isnt a bull pen guy. He has never done well out of the bull pen. If he isnt a starter with the Marlins he will be for someone else. Not a #1 or #2, but he would be a very good #4 or #5 and a decent #3.

Are we really mourning a guy who had an 18.00 ERA in 2008 with the Marlins, 6.75 with the Tigers, and who has been below average since 2002 in the Minors???

 

Plus he's Dominican so add a couple of years to his listed age.

Trahern will pitch in the majors this year. Mark my words

Probably, but this may be an indication of lack of SP depth if one of the 5 go down, rather than if Trahern is really ready.

 

I'd hope for a really strong AAA year, and then let him compete for the 5th SP slot against West, Thompson, and Badenhop in 2010. Then maybe turning him into our Kyle McClellan when West beats him out with the superior upside. I know he's your boy, but I'm just being honest here. He'd be a nice bullpen change of pace to the other RHP fire ballers (Tucker, Ceda, Leroux) we have coming up real soon. And a nice backup starter at the MLB level.

 

I wish Dallas hadnt gotten hurt last year. You guys didnt see the Trahern that the Marlins traded for. He pitched the entire year with an open cut on the thumb of his pitching hand. Add to that he was in Albuquerque as a sinker ball pitcher. He worked with Rob Walton (USA baseball College team/ORU HC) this off season. I think you will be pleasantly surprised this year.

 

The Tigers people werent impressed with him early either. He's not going to be a strikeout pitcher. He will generate a bunch of ground balls. He isnt a bull pen guy. He has never done well out of the bull pen. If he isnt a starter with the Marlins he will be for someone else. Not a #1 or #2, but he would be a very good #4 or #5 and a decent #3.

I would love a huge season from Trahern see what he can do after late season callup