Posted August 21, 200915 yr Mine are Maybin, Carroll, RVH, Christian Martinez, Morrison, and Bryan Peterson. Yours?
August 21, 200915 yr Not all of those. Maybin, Carroll, RVH, (Martinez is here right). Morrison and Peterson can stay down. I don't want a repeat of Maybins situation, where he was brought up too early.
August 21, 200915 yr I expect Ayala, Leroux, Cris Martinez, RVH, Wood, Maybin, and BC. Probably Hayes as our 3rd catcher. Also we'll probably be adding Hopper at some point. Guys like Jai Miller, De Aza, and Trahern also have a shot I think. I don't particularly expect Morrison but it's possible. I don't see Peterson coming up.
August 21, 200915 yr Author I expect Ayala, Leroux, Cris Martinez, RVH, Wood, Maybin, and BC as locks. Probably Hayes as our 3rd catcher. Guys like Jai Miller, De Aza, and Trahern also have a shot I think. I don't particularly expect Morrison but it's possible. I don't see Peterson coming up. nah, i dont see hayes, or leroux coming up. maybe ayala. but ya, i have most of the same locks. and i would really love to see peterson come up here for a little seasoning. he has had a terrific year and by the looks of his stat line he could become a leadoff or #2 hitter and his defense has been amazing, not committing an error the entire season. and i think morrison could be useful, especially if johnson goes to the dl edit- and trahern and miller? has trahern pitched all year? and i forgot about de aza. he is probably coming up also. he would probably keep peterson down so ya, you are right.
August 21, 200915 yr I forsee Gabby going back down so he will be a callup. Also: Maybin, De Aza, Morrison/Stanton (possibly), Hayes (who I believe can play 1B as well, so that would eliminate Morrison/Stanton as I still think they are 1-2 years away). Also look for Leroux, C-Mart, RVH, Ayala, and pretty much any other pitcher we've brought up this year. I'd expect most if not all guys we have had up with the big club already since we have to pay them anyway, might as well play in September than get paid to sit around and twittle their thumbs.
August 21, 200915 yr I expect Ayala, Leroux, Cris Martinez, RVH, Wood, Maybin, and BC as locks. Probably Hayes as our 3rd catcher. Guys like Jai Miller, De Aza, and Trahern also have a shot I think. I don't particularly expect Morrison but it's possible. I don't see Peterson coming up. nah, i dont see hayes, or leroux coming up. maybe ayala. but ya, i have most of the same locks. and i would really love to see peterson come up here for a little seasoning. he has had a terrific year and by the looks of his stat line he could become a leadoff or #2 hitter and his defense has been amazing, not committing an error the entire season. and i think morrison could be useful, especially if johnson goes to the dl edit- and trahern and miller? has trahern pitched all year? and i forgot about de aza. he is probably coming up also. he would probably keep peterson down so ya, you are right. The only way we take a chance on anyone who hasn't seen big league experience is if we tank oover the next week and turn out to be non-contenders
August 21, 200915 yr Author I expect Ayala, Leroux, Cris Martinez, RVH, Wood, Maybin, and BC as locks. Probably Hayes as our 3rd catcher. Guys like Jai Miller, De Aza, and Trahern also have a shot I think. I don't particularly expect Morrison but it's possible. I don't see Peterson coming up. nah, i dont see hayes, or leroux coming up. maybe ayala. but ya, i have most of the same locks. and i would really love to see peterson come up here for a little seasoning. he has had a terrific year and by the looks of his stat line he could become a leadoff or #2 hitter and his defense has been amazing, not committing an error the entire season. and i think morrison could be useful, especially if johnson goes to the dl edit- and trahern and miller? has trahern pitched all year? and i forgot about de aza. he is probably coming up also. he would probably keep peterson down so ya, you are right. The only way we take a chance on anyone who hasn't seen big league experience is if we tank oover the next week and turn out to be non-contenders that isnt true at all
August 21, 200915 yr I expect Ayala, Leroux, Cris Martinez, RVH, Wood, Maybin, and BC as locks. Probably Hayes as our 3rd catcher. Guys like Jai Miller, De Aza, and Trahern also have a shot I think. I don't particularly expect Morrison but it's possible. I don't see Peterson coming up. nah, i dont see hayes, or leroux coming up. maybe ayala. but ya, i have most of the same locks. and i would really love to see peterson come up here for a little seasoning. he has had a terrific year and by the looks of his stat line he could become a leadoff or #2 hitter and his defense has been amazing, not committing an error the entire season. and i think morrison could be useful, especially if johnson goes to the dl edit- and trahern and miller? has trahern pitched all year? and i forgot about de aza. he is probably coming up also. he would probably keep peterson down so ya, you are right. I edited my post, locks was probably a bit too strong. With our starter issues I expect us to call up what we can for the pen which is why I expect Leroux. Also a 3rd catcher would allow us to PH with Pauly or Bake. Plus, we've had a 3rd catcher in September just about every year since 04 bringing in guys like Treanor, Willingham, Hoover, and LoDuca for just those reasons.
August 21, 200915 yr Author thats true. speaking of hoover, has he played this year for anybody? and you do know trahern hasnt pitched in like 3 months, right?
August 21, 200915 yr thats true. speaking of hoover, has he played this year for anybody? and you do know trahern hasnt pitched in like 3 months, right? I knew Dallas got injured but I had forgotten. So no, I don't expect him. And Hoov is in the Phillies' system.
August 21, 200915 yr Author Wait. Can someone please explain the september call ups to me? in september you are allowed to add up to 15 players to your roster due to what is known as the rosters expanding. the players have to be on the 40 man roster though. pretty simple
August 21, 200915 yr Wait. Can someone please explain the september call ups to me? in september you are allowed to add up to 15 players to your roster due to what is known as the rosters expanding. the players have to be on the 40 man roster though. pretty simple Thanks. I learn something new everyday. :thumbup
August 21, 200915 yr It is an automatic that Hayes will be brought up. Every team brings up a third catcher. It allows Fredi to pinch hit Paulino or Baker (whichever isn't playing) and not have to worry about a reserve catcher. Maybin, Ayala, Martinez, Hopper, RVH, Wood. I don't think that any of the future stars that aren't on the 40-man will be activated, ie. Morrison, Stanton unless someone is released and I can't see who that would be.
August 21, 200915 yr I agree totally with Seminole...i can see all the arms that have been up with the exception of Leroux up here in September to help the depleted bullpen...hitting wise I can see Maybin, Gaby (if he were to be sent back down), De Aza and BC that is about it.
August 21, 200915 yr Well we know Maybin and BC will be called up, and we are going to need a lot of relievers to make up for our current lack of innings from the 3-5 starters. I'd say Maybin, BC, Martinez, Ayala, RVH, Wood, Leroux. Basically the list of players he have already seen in the majors at some point this season. Morrison will probably be starting in either LF or 1B next season, so we'll probably keep him down in AA to finish the season. Stanton has a LOT of work to do before he gets called up. He needs to really bring those K numbers down and show a little more consistancy and patience. Peterson/Raynor/Cousins are possibilities, but with our current depth of OFers that we could use, none of these guys really have a chance to get called up. We'll probably see Stanton as a September callup 2010.
August 21, 200915 yr The first thing to understand is why players are normally called up. A player is normally called up because 1) The player is not on the 40 man roster but is expected to start next year out of ST, so they a spot is made for them to give them experience beforehand (Hasn't happened to us much lately because our specs are normally in-season calls ups but see: Gaby last year, JJ and Andino in '05). Who fits this mold: Logan Morrison. 2) A player is not on the 40 man roster and is not expected to start next season, but will have to be put on the 40 man roster in the offseason anyway to protect him from Rule V eligibility or minor league free agency. Only done if there is room for the player on the 40 man roster. Too lazy to look up examples of this and who fits this mold, but this is rarely a case anyway because 40 man roster spots are important. 3) A player is already on the 40 man roster, and is either A) expected to start next season or B) is called up for depth reasons (For A see: Maybin last year. For B see: Third string catchers, relief pitchers, andino post-05, tons of examples). So who is on the 40 man roster: Cameron Maybin (Likely under A and our only one under A) Bret Carroll (Likely) Brett Hayes (Likely) Tim Wood (Likely) Rick Vanden Hurk (Likely) Cristian Martinez (Likely) Chris Leroux (likely) Andrew Miller (Likely if healthy) Ryan Tucker (Likely if healthy) Luis Ayala (Likely if they don't release him to make a 40 man roster spot) Alejhandro De Aza (maybe but unlikely) Jai Miller (Maybe but unlikely) Dallas Trahern (None; injured) Taylor Tankersely (None; injured) They'll probably do Carroll/Hayes/Maybin for position players, then 3-4 of the pitchers. 4) An old player who has no future with the franchise, but is called up as a "Thank you" either because they have been with the organization for awhile or because they had a very good year for their minor league affiliate (See: Jason Wood). Who fits the mold: Michael Ryan (Unlikely, ton of OFers already on the 40 man roster. Has been one of the best hitters in the PCL this year), Willie Glen (Unlikely, injured. Has been our "Crash Davis" of our AA and AAA staff past 2 years). So that gives us Carroll, Hayes, Maybin, a few pitchers, and maybe Morrison, De Aza, Miller.
August 21, 200915 yr The first thing to understand is why players are normally called up. A player is normally called up because 1) The player is not on the 40 man roster but is expected to start next year out of ST, so they a spot is made for them to give them experience beforehand (Hasn't happened to us much lately because our specs are normally in-season calls ups but see: Gaby last year, JJ and Andino in '05). Who fits this mold: Logan Morrison. 2) A player is not on the 40 man roster and is not expected to start next season, but will have to be put on the 40 man roster in the offseason anyway to protect him from Rule V eligibility or minor league free agency. Only done if there is room for the player on the 40 man roster. Too lazy to look up examples of this and who fits this mold, but this is rarely a case anyway because 40 man roster spots are important. 3) A player is already on the 40 man roster, and is either A) expected to start next season or B) is called up for depth reasons (For A see: Maybin last year. For B see: Third string catchers, relief pitchers, andino post-05, tons of examples). So who is on the 40 man roster: Cameron Maybin (Likely under A and our only one under A) Bret Carroll (Likely) Brett Hayes (Likely) Tim Wood (Likely) Rick Vanden Hurk (Likely) Cristian Martinez (Likely) Chris Leroux (likely) Andrew Miller (Likely if healthy) Ryan Tucker (Likely if healthy) Luis Ayala (Likely if they don't release him to make a 40 man roster spot) Alejhandro De Aza (maybe but unlikely) Jai Miller (Maybe but unlikely) Dallas Trahern (None; injured) Taylor Tankersely (None; injured) They'll probably do Carroll/Hayes/Maybin for position players, then 3-4 of the pitchers. 4) An old player who has no future with the franchise, but is called up as a "Thank you" either because they have been with the organization for awhile or because they had a very good year for their minor league affiliate (See: Jason Wood). Who fits the mold: Michael Ryan (Unlikely, ton of OFers already on the 40 man roster. Has been one of the best hitters in the PCL this year), Willie Glen (Unlikely, injured. Has been our "Crash Davis" of our AA and AAA staff past 2 years). So that gives us Carroll, Hayes, Maybin, a few pitchers, and maybe Morrison, De Aza, Miller. Sounds about right.
August 21, 200915 yr Author i now think it is maybin, de aza, carroll, hayes, martinez, wood, rvh, leroux and morrison
August 21, 200915 yr The first thing to understand is why players are normally called up. A player is normally called up because 1) The player is not on the 40 man roster but is expected to start next year out of ST, so they a spot is made for them to give them experience beforehand (Hasn't happened to us much lately because our specs are normally in-season calls ups but see: Gaby last year, JJ and Andino in '05). Who fits this mold: Logan Morrison. 2) A player is not on the 40 man roster and is not expected to start next season, but will have to be put on the 40 man roster in the offseason anyway to protect him from Rule V eligibility or minor league free agency. Only done if there is room for the player on the 40 man roster. Too lazy to look up examples of this and who fits this mold, but this is rarely a case anyway because 40 man roster spots are important. 3) A player is already on the 40 man roster, and is either A) expected to start next season or B) is called up for depth reasons (For A see: Maybin last year. For B see: Third string catchers, relief pitchers, andino post-05, tons of examples). So who is on the 40 man roster: Cameron Maybin (Likely under A and our only one under A) Bret Carroll (Likely) Brett Hayes (Likely) Tim Wood (Likely) Rick Vanden Hurk (Likely) Cristian Martinez (Likely) Chris Leroux (likely) Andrew Miller (Likely if healthy) Ryan Tucker (Likely if healthy) Luis Ayala (Likely if they don't release him to make a 40 man roster spot) Alejhandro De Aza (maybe but unlikely) Jai Miller (Maybe but unlikely) Dallas Trahern (None; injured) Taylor Tankersely (None; injured) They'll probably do Carroll/Hayes/Maybin for position players, then 3-4 of the pitchers. 4) An old player who has no future with the franchise, but is called up as a "Thank you" either because they have been with the organization for awhile or because they had a very good year for their minor league affiliate (See: Jason Wood). Who fits the mold: Michael Ryan (Unlikely, ton of OFers already on the 40 man roster. Has been one of the best hitters in the PCL this year), Willie Glen (Unlikely, injured. Has been our "Crash Davis" of our AA and AAA staff past 2 years). So that gives us Carroll, Hayes, Maybin, a few pitchers, and maybe Morrison, De Aza, Miller. Jai is out of options, so he'll be up for sure for purposes of # 2, and they'll keep him through spring training to see if he gets a backup OF spot or cut him then. Also, all of these guys are getting the pro-rated minimum once the get called up. If they Marlins call up 10 guys, they've just added approximately $650,00 to season payroll. We are cheap, always remember this until 2012. I'd say they bring up 5-6 guys. Probably Maybin, Carroll, Hayes, Wood, Miller, and Vanden Hurk. I'll be surprised if they open the wallet to keep another 4 guys around, even if Martinez, Leroux, Tucker, Ayala, etc, are acceptable call ups. Highly doubt we bump the 40 man around to get Morrison up. I still think he us a June 2010 call up to give him the 2 months he missed this year due to injury, and for arbitration/super2 reasons longterm.
August 21, 200915 yr There is no chance of Stanton this year being called up He probably will go to AFL. There is a good chance Morrison gets his 1st taste of MLB especially if NJ is stil ailing...Anyone thought of Cousins maybe getting a call as well? BTW Graham Taylor may find himself being called up as well
August 21, 200915 yr Highly doubt we bump the 40 man around to get Morrison up. I still think he us a June 2010 call up to give him the 2 months he missed this year due to injury, and for arbitration/super2 reasons longterm. yeah I'd say this september is a good indication if he'll be playing in April or in June. If he's called up, there's zero reason to wait until June. If he's not called up, there's a lot of reasons to not call him up until June.
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