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Rays owner to reduce payroll significantly next year

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Risky move by Longoria but I fully respect him for saying what he said. You would hope fans would be turning up when you are on the verge of clinching a playoff spot and playing great baseball.

David Price also made comments about the attendance calling their lack to turn out "embarrassing" on Twitter.

 

 

"Had a chance to clinch a post season spot tonight with about 10,000 fans in the stands... embarrassing"- David Price

 

 

"We go out there and play hard for 162 games," Longoria said, "and for the fans to show the kind of support they're showing right now, you kind of wonder what else you have to do as a player."- Evan Longoria

So at least 50% of the crowd will be given free tickets? That's kinda sad.

 

I don't think they'll be moving though.

Even though it will be better for the players playing in front of a decent crowd, they know its not the same as the fans actually wanting to pay to go and see their team.

If the Rays clinch a playoff spot and nobody is there to see it, do they really clinch a spot?

17,000 people in person saw it and the TV rating was around 10.2

 

Plenty of people saw it :p

 

 

 

Don't complain when you lose Crawford, Soriano, Pena, etc. then.

So at least 50% of the crowd will be given free tickets? That's kinda sad.

 

I don't think they'll be moving though.

 

If they can't secure a stadium deal, they should move. I know I've said this before, but it's utterly absurd that they can't draw fans with how good they've been. Tampa is worst than Miami is. At least Tampa has a roof and hasn't been plagued by two massive firesales (they might have one coming up after this season but that doesn't explain the lack of attendance over the last couple of years).

 

I think what will prevent them from moving in a practical sense is that they have some sort of ironclad contract with Tampa/St. Pete, which prevents them from doing so in the near future. If this weren't in place, I would love to consider what I've proposed before...contract the Pittsburgh franchise and move the Rays team into PNC Park.

17,000 people in person saw it and the TV rating was around 10.2

 

Plenty of people saw it :p

 

17,000 is nothing.

 

33,215 saw the Marlins clinch in 2003, and our attendance sucks. That was a Friday though, so lets make it fair. The Tuesday before we clinched the Marlins brought in 25,311. The attendance on that last homestand averaged 29,452.

So at least 50% of the crowd will be given free tickets? That's kinda sad.

 

I don't think they'll be moving though.

 

If they can't secure a stadium deal, they should move. I know I've said this before, but it's utterly absurd that they can't draw fans with how good they've been. Tampa is worst than Miami is. At least Tampa has a roof and hasn't been plagued by two massive firesales (they might have one coming up after this season but that doesn't explain the lack of attendance over the last couple of years).

I wonder what would have happened if not for the 2nd firesale because the attendance had risen four years in a row.

 

Tampa has a roof but that that''s a horrlble place to watch a game in and the location is far from the population base. Also, the way people talk you would think they're last in attendance but are 22nd with just under 23k per game.

17,000 people in person saw it and the TV rating was around 10.2

 

Plenty of people saw it :p

 

17,000 is nothing.

 

33,215 saw the Marlins clinch in 2003, and our attendance sucks. That was a Friday though, so lets make it fair. The Tuesday before we clinched the Marlins brought in 25,311. The attendance on that last homestand averaged 29,452.

And what a great week that was-first catching and passing the phillies (30,000 sitting in the rain for one of those games) and clinching vs the mutts.

So at least 50% of the crowd will be given free tickets? That's kinda sad.

 

I don't think they'll be moving though.

 

If they can't secure a stadium deal, they should move. I know I've said this before, but it's utterly absurd that they can't draw fans with how good they've been. Tampa is worst than Miami is. At least Tampa has a roof and hasn't been plagued by two massive firesales (they might have one coming up after this season but that doesn't explain the lack of attendance over the last couple of years).

I wonder what would have happened if not for the 2nd firesale because the attendance had risen four years in a row.

 

Tampa has a roof but that that''s a horrlble place to watch a game in and the location is far from the population base. Also, the way people talk you would think they're last in attendance but are 22nd with just under 23k per game.

As I said in another thread...

 

Is a lack of plasma screen TVs and fancy amenities really a valid excuse for not showing up to support a winning team? I really doubt that this has much to do with it. Notice that teams that the teams that draw well are traditionally the competitive ones. Pittsburgh and the Nationals have started seeing attendance drop because the novelty of the "niceness" of the park has worn off and the teams aren't competing. If a team is competitive enough, I believe a good baseball town would supply could attendance at below average facilities.

 

I can buy the lack of a climate controlled facility being a problem (in Miami), but Tampa doesn't have this problem. I genuinelly believe that it's just a bad baseball city and Florida is a bad baseball state.

 

Also, I consider 22/30 for a team that has been on top pretty much since Opening Day (and was in the WS only a couple of years ago) to be absolutely abysmal.

So at least 50% of the crowd will be given free tickets? That's kinda sad.

 

I don't think they'll be moving though.

 

If they can't secure a stadium deal, they should move. I know I've said this before, but it's utterly absurd that they can't draw fans with how good they've been. Tampa is worst than Miami is. At least Tampa has a roof and hasn't been plagued by two massive firesales (they might have one coming up after this season but that doesn't explain the lack of attendance over the last couple of years).

I wonder what would have happened if not for the 2nd firesale because the attendance had risen four years in a row.

 

Tampa has a roof but that that''s a horrlble place to watch a game in and the location is far from the population base. Also, the way people talk you would think they're last in attendance but are 22nd with just under 23k per game.

As I said in another thread...

 

Is a lack of plasma screen TVs and fancy amenities really a valid excuse for not showing up to support a winning team? I really doubt that this has much to do with it. Notice that teams that the teams that draw well are traditionally the competitive ones. Pittsburgh and the Nationals have started seeing attendance drop because the novelty of the "niceness" of the park has worn off and the teams aren't competing. If a team is competitive enough, I believe a good baseball town would supply could attendance at below average facilities.

 

I can buy the lack of a climate controlled facility being a problem (in Miami), but Tampa doesn't have this problem. I genuinelly believe that it's just a bad baseball city and Florida is a bad baseball state.

 

Also, I consider 22/30 for a team that has been on top pretty much since Opening Day (and was in the WS only a couple of years ago) to be absolutely abysmal.

I agree with what I bolded.

I just love how Rays fans are demonized for having their money spending priorities in order (i.e. Food, Bills, and clothes come first). Last night Rays fans proved it's the bad economy the reason they don't attend more game. And the fact they're getting attacked for spending what little money they have in this economy on the essentials instead of baseball is pathetic. Most that have been interviewed in this area have said they're saving for the playoffs. Jeez.

 

17,000 is nothing.

 

33,215 saw the Marlins clinch in 2003, and our attendance sucks. That was a Friday though, so lets make it fair. The Tuesday before we clinched the Marlins brought in 25,311. The attendance on that last homestand averaged 29,452.

 

 

There wasn't a recession in 2003.

Not demonized. Just not in a position to complain when payroll is being lowered (especially on a Marlins message board lolol).

 

 

Freedom's a B**** isn't it? And I didn't start the thread, only commented in it. :p

I just love how Rays fans are demonized for having their money spending priorities in order (i.e. Food, Bills, and clothes come first). Last night Rays fans proved it's the bad economy the reason they don't attend more game. And the fact they're getting attacked for spending what little money they have in this economy on the essentials instead of baseball is pathetic. Most that have been interviewed in this area have said they're saving for the playoffs. Jeez.

 

 

17,000 is nothing.

 

33,215 saw the Marlins clinch in 2003, and our attendance sucks. That was a Friday though, so lets make it fair. The Tuesday before we clinched the Marlins brought in 25,311. The attendance on that last homestand averaged 29,452.

 

 

There wasn't a recession in 2003.

 

So how come other playoff bound teams are still drawing much better crowds? They are just as likely as Rays fans to be suffering a bit financially

In case anyone is interested in dealing with facts rather than noise when comparing the attendance for the '03 Marlins and the '10 Rays the Rays attendance this year is about 6,500 higher.

In case anyone is interested in dealing with facts rather than noise when comparing the attendance for the '03 Marlins and the '10 Rays the Rays attendance this year is about 6,500 higher.

 

The Marlins weren't in first (or near first) in their division since Opening Day in 2003. The Marlins weren't a virtually guaranteed to be a postseason team weeks to months before the season ended. And the Marlins weren't coming off of a World Series appearance only two seasons prior.

 

Still the Marlins should have drawn better in 2003, roof or no roof. That doesn't excuse Rays fans for not showing up this season.

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