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Seriously, does it make too much sense?

 

With Neftali Feliz pitching well in Spring Training and now apparently having a preference to start, Ron Washington has already said he wants more experience in the backend of his bullpen.

http://www.mlbtrader...ced-closer.html

We have seven relievers, not named Leo Nunez, who have pitched in the big leagues and have had some sort of success. Plus depth in the minors, in case something were to go wrong.

 

Why is Leo Nunez still here/not on the block?

 

We have other areas of need on this team.

maybe every other team realizes he stinks and is overpaid

 

 

 

After the year he had last year, there has to be interest. When you watch him pitch and look at his stuff and upside, there has to be some sort of interest.

 

He's just not really needed on this team. Any team in need of bullpen help would be interested. Leo Nunez is much more intriguing than some of the guys mentioned in the article. I'm sure Texas would have interest; the Marlins have just shown zero intent to move him. I understand a priority being placed on having bullpen depth after last year's mess, but c'mon. The team has other holes; the bullpen should be the least of the worries, at this point. Leo's just taking up salary here unless he becomes a dominant closer, which is something he's never proven to be.

The Athletics bullpen seems weak, too (just looking at last year's stats), especially if Andrew Bailey's injury is serious, and he's visiting ol' Doc Andrews.

 

Outside of Bailey, they had only 3 guys with 20+ innings and sub-4.00 ERA, only 1 more under 4.5, and just 1 additional under 5.00. I'm not sure what difference there will be with their BP this year, but it could be weak.

I've been all on board to ship Nunez for some needs.

 

But I always thought if Nunez could just develop a suitable slider or breaking ball he'd become an elite reliever. A lot of relievers thrive with two pitches but usually those two pitches give the batter a different look movement wise. With the left to right tailing movement he has, some movement the other direction with a great off speed would be lethal. I wonder if St. Claire worked on that at all over the off season.

I've been all on board to ship Nunez for some needs.

 

But I always thought if Nunez could just develop a suitable slider or breaking ball he'd become an elite reliever. A lot of relievers thrive with two pitches but usually those two pitches give the batter a different look movement wise. With the left to right tailing movement he has, some movement the other direction with a great off speed would be lethal. I wonder if St. Claire worked on that at all over the off season.

 

 

I'm sure it was high priority. He has a great slider, but not much control with it. To be honest, I think he would be just fine with 2 pitches if he could command his fastball, but often times his is not the case.

I've been all on board to ship Nunez for some needs.

 

But I always thought if Nunez could just develop a suitable slider or breaking ball he'd become an elite reliever. A lot of relievers thrive with two pitches but usually those two pitches give the batter a different look movement wise. With the left to right tailing movement he has, some movement the other direction with a great off speed would be lethal. I wonder if St. Claire worked on that at all over the off season.

 

 

I'm sure it was high priority. He has a great slider, but not much control with it. To be honest, I think he would be just fine with 2 pitches if he could command his fastball, but often times his is not the case.

That's true. When he's keeping the ball down and throwing enough fastballs he's great. When he leaves the ball up his ball flattens out and get crushed.

 

The entire time he's pitching I catch myself yelling "Down in the zone Leo!"

If the reason for keeping him and his salary is that he has the potential to become an elite reliever, that's a dumb reason to keep him. We have other arms with the potential to be very good as well, and they aren't as costly.

 

Our bullpen is absolutely fine, with or without Leo Nunez.

 

On the other hand, we still have 2/3 of our outfield playing out of position, and our bench sucks (imo).

I'd love to trade Nunez for a Center Fielder, move Coghlan to 2nd, Infante to third, and put MD in Double A.

 

 

I agree, but Cogs is playing center this season. Period.

I'd love to trade Nunez for a Center Fielder, move Coghlan to 2nd, Infante to third, and put MD in Double A.

 

 

I agree, but Cogs is playing center this season. Period.

 

While he will start the season as a CF, I believe eventually, he will be moved some where else. Playing him in CF for the whole season just does not make any sense.

If the reason for keeping him and his salary is that he has the potential to become an elite reliever, that's a dumb reason to keep him. We have other arms with the potential to be very good as well, and they aren't as costly.

 

Our bullpen is absolutely fine, with or without Leo Nunez.

 

On the other hand, we still have 2/3 of our outfield playing out of position, and our bench sucks (imo).

 

I wasn't saying we should keep him. He's probably one of my least favorite relief options this season and not even close to the money he's getting. There's only a handful of relievers who warrant that pay.

 

But it looks like we are going to end up with him and he may still have potential to be a superb reliever.

I'm not sure I'd trade him for a ML-ready piece. They are set with Cogs in center, as ILMSF said. I would want a solid prospect or two, since our system is so depleted.

I have no problem keeping Nunez - the marlins have an excellent bullpen on paper but not much experience, right now I am ok with having a semi-dependable closer with experience. Nunez has the stuff and make up to be a dominant closer, he just hasnt put it all together yet, hopefully this will be the year.

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Just wanted to bump this, seeing as one of the lead stories on ESPN's front page is considering is the Rangers should put starter Alexei Ogando in the bullpen because their bullpen struggling so much.

Just wanted to bump this, seeing as one of the lead stories on ESPN's front page is considering is the Rangers should put starter Alexei Ogando in the bullpen because their bullpen struggling so much.

 

 

 

There are a bunch of good teams with bullpen issues, at the moment. The White Sox are another team that comes to mind.

Just wanted to bump this, seeing as one of the lead stories on ESPN's front page is considering is the Rangers should put starter Alexei Ogando in the bullpen because their bullpen struggling so much.

 

 

 

There are a bunch of good teams with bullpen issues, at the moment. The White Sox are another team that comes to mind.

 

And while Nunez is hot, man it's the perfect time. We could take a small hit in the BP, but we could get a huge gain for the future, or even just go for a 3B.

I would love to send them Leo for Michael Young, IF texas is willing to pick up some of, if not most of the contract, and we can if need be send some B or C level prospects back.

 

Or I wouldnt mind their outfielder Murphy....

I dont see why you WOULD trade him.

 

Things are going good Erick. He's pitching great. He's got command. He's 6/6. Nobody cares how much he's making during the season, that's an offseason matter.

 

He's just as good as any other guy in this BP right now.

 

Plus you don't know what could happen. Someone gets injured or regresses. Having too much good relief pitching isn't a problem.

Exactly

 

Nunez's value will be pretty high at the end of this year if the Marlins don't want to give him seven to eight million next year.

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