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Yeah, patience is key. If we rewarded Fredi Gonzalez for his 11-1 start in 09, we all wouldn't be too happy right now.

 

I like Edwin, but it's a long season. If we're playing in October, then Edwin can get his extension.

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Thanks for the feedback. :thumbup

 

I figured it wouldn't be a popular opinion. It should be noted that I felt he should've gotten a multi-year deal this off-season anyway so this opinion is not just based off our hot start.

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No need to rush, he's not going anywhere. Let's wait for the season to play out, see how things go with the team under his watch from February to October and debate it then.

 

 

Agree. Edwin hasn't even coached a year on the majors level. Just because he has coached some of the players in the minors should be given no consideration on this matter. We are entering a new era, a new stadium with unfortunately with a new name, logo and colors. Why not wait until year's end and maybe enter with a new coach??

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For what it's worth, I was more impressed that he still had the team playing competitively last year and ended up with a .500 record than the 14-7 start this year.

 

36-36 (I believe that was his record last year) doesn't look all that impressive, but considering he had an AAAA team the last month of the season, it's been impressive how the team has responded to him on a more consistent basis.

 

I also feel like there's been more of an emphasis on things, such as playing defense, since he got here. While we do have a better team, defensively, I still think the team has overachieved, somewhat, defensively early on this year.

 

He's also had the team believing that they can win the World Series since day one of Spring Training, and I personally liked that.

 

Of course, at the end of the day, it's about the players on the field, in terms of wins/losses; however, I really like him more than Fredi, for what it's worth.

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For what it's worth, I was more impressed that he still had the team playing competitively last year and ended up with a .500 record than the 14-7 start this year.

 

36-36 (I believe that was his record last year) doesn't look all that impressive, but considering he had an AAAA team the last month of the season, it's been impressive how the team has responded to him on a more consistent basis.

 

I also feel like there's been more of an emphasis on things, such as playing defense, since he got here. While we do have a better team, defensively, I still think the team has overachieved, somewhat, defensively early on this year.

 

He's also had the team believing that they can win the World Series since day one of Spring Training, and I personally liked that.

 

Of course, at the end of the day, it's about the players on the field, in terms of wins/losses; however, I really like him more than Fredi, for what it's worth.

 

 

I'd attribute that to Perry Hill myself more then Edwin. Not many coaches I actually give credit to seriously improving an aspect of a team, but Perry Hill is one of them.

 

I've got no complaints against Edwin and I do love him far more then Fredi who drove me crazy with some of his decisions and the control he seemed to lack over the team at times. I just don't see any reason to reward Edwin immediately, we've got lots of time between now and the end of the season and many things can happen between now and then. Like I said he's not going anywhere and I can't imagine he'd gain any sense of disloyalty to the FO because they're not giving him an extension in the middle of his first full season as a major league manager. No need to be brash here, no downside to waiting it out and working out a deal in the offseason if that's the optimal route.

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For what it's worth, I was more impressed that he still had the team playing competitively last year and ended up with a .500 record than the 14-7 start this year.

 

36-36 (I believe that was his record last year) doesn't look all that impressive, but considering he had an AAAA team the last month of the season, it's been impressive how the team has responded to him on a more consistent basis.

 

I also feel like there's been more of an emphasis on things, such as playing defense, since he got here. While we do have a better team, defensively, I still think the team has overachieved, somewhat, defensively early on this year.

 

He's also had the team believing that they can win the World Series since day one of Spring Training, and I personally liked that.

 

Of course, at the end of the day, it's about the players on the field, in terms of wins/losses; however, I really like him more than Fredi, for what it's worth.

 

 

46-46, actually.

 

He took over at 34-36.

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I want to see how this season plays out, but he's really impressing so far. If he gets this team into the postseason, Loria would be stupid to let him walk for a big name manager.

 

I used to think his constant use of lefty specialists was stupid, but it's growing on me. Good bullpen managing, good use of bench - he's looking more and more like the kind of manager that'll become a big name for Loria if he's given the chance to succeed here.

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I'm going to wait until he finishes a full season before I make an opinion, but so far I think I like him more than Gonzalez and Girardi.

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I want to see how this season plays out, but he's really impressing so far. If he gets this team into the postseason, Loria would be stupid to let him walk for a big name manager.

 

I used to think his constant use of lefty specialists was stupid, but it's growing on me. Good bullpen managing, good use of bench - he's looking more and more like the kind of manager that'll become a big name for Loria if he's given the chance to succeed here.

 

 

Yeah I think this is the big point... he just needs a solid chance to succeed and while 2010 went well, he's proving what he can do in 2011 and its been wonderful so far. Let him prove it thoughout the year and he's almost a lock to be here in 2012.

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They asked Hanley last night on an after-game interview on 790 The Ticket something about what he feels has helped the team and he immediately said "Edwin."

 

I'm paraphrasing but he said Edwin plays a big role because he respects everyone, keeps everyone happy, and the team respects him and wants to play to get him those wins.

 

Now, this is a very mature thing to say considering Hanley's reputation with managers in the past, but there's gotta be some truth to it, don't ya think?

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They asked Hanley last night on an after-game interview on 790 The Ticket something about what he feels has helped the team and he immediately said "Edwin."

 

I'm paraphrasing but he said Edwin plays a big role because he respects everyone, keeps everyone happy, and the team respects him and wants to play to get him those wins.

 

Now, this is a very mature thing to say considering Hanley's reputation with managers in the past, but there's gotta be some truth to it, don't ya think?

 

I was just about to post that. I'm pretty sure he was thinking about Fredi when he said that, probably a thinly-veiled jab at his former skipper. Then again, I don't think he would be saying it at all if it weren't true.

 

I think a good case can be made that Edwin's proven himself by now. But prudence is a good thing, too – perhaps mid-way through the season would be a better time to evaluate. One thing's for sure, though: this coaching staff is much better than the one we had before.

 

About Edwin's record in '10 – it should be noted that one of those losses was the Bob Davidson fiasco. For argument's sake, I would count that as a win for Edwin.

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