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2012 NFL Offseason Thread

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In the 3rd round, the Dolphins drafted defensive end Olivier Vernon, someone I had a class with in High School.

Not that it really matters, I just think that's cool.

In the 3rd round, the Dolphins drafted defensive end Olivier Vernon, someone I had a class with in High School.

Not that it really matters, I just think that's cool.

 

Mike knows football players!

In the 3rd round, the Dolphins drafted defensive end Olivier Vernon, someone I had a class with in High School.

Not that it really matters, I just think that's cool.

 

 

American, right?

In the 3rd round, the Dolphins drafted defensive end Olivier Vernon, someone I had a class with in High School.

Not that it really matters, I just think that's cool.

 

 

American, right?

Yes, yes indeed.

Love how ESPN is stroking New England over the Chandler Jones pick when he did absolutely nothing in college. All the measureables in the world mean jack if you do nothing with them on the field.

 

 

Did nothing? I can't disagree more. He's going to be a great pro.

 

What exactly did he do to warrant being a 1st round pick? He had 57 tackles last season and 52 last season which is solid. He had 27 TFL in 32 career games -- nothing special and he has not yet shown the ability to get to the QB with only 10 sacks in those 32 games. The Big East isn't exactly the SEC either so you would have expected someone with his measureables to dominate the conference and he never did.

 

Now if NE drafted him so they could get his brother to take out the opposing teams best player every week then it is a hell of a pick. We all know BB isn't above the shadier aspects of football.

You don't look at the numbers to determine whether a prospect is deserving of a first round pick or not. That's the WORST strategy to use.

The Lamar Miller pick was a great pick by the Dolphins.

 

Reggie Bush/Daniel Thomas/Lamar Miller

 

Hell of a three-headed monster at HB.

You don't look at the numbers to determine whether a prospect is deserving of a first round pick or not. That's the WORST strategy to use.

 

 

Either you can make plays or you can't. It's not like he's a DT where you are expected to eat blocks and stats are hard to come by unless you are absolutely elite. I'd rather take a guy with average measureables who balled in college than someone with freakish measureables who has yet to put it all together and may never. Elvis Dumervil comes to mind. Alot of people said he couldn't play or wouldn't amount to much in the NFL because of his size even though he dominated every one he went up against in college. He has worked out well.

I agree. I like the Lamar Miller pick. I did not like the B.J Cunningham pick. I also did not like the Josh Kaddu pick with Marvin Jones still on the board, but you have to let the guys play first, I guess.

You don't look at the numbers to determine whether a prospect is deserving of a first round pick or not. That's the WORST strategy to use.

 

 

Either you can make plays or you can't. It's not like he's a DT where you are expected to eat blocks and stats are hard to come by unless you are absolutely elite. I'd rather take a guy with average measureables who balled in college than someone with freakish measureables who has yet to put it all together and may never. Elvis Dumervil comes to mind. Alot of people said he couldn't play or wouldn't amount to much in the NFL because of his size even though he dominated every one he went up against in college. He has worked out well.

 

And I'm telling you that's flawed. No other way to put it. You can't just look at numbers. It doesn't tell you the whole picture.

 

Btw, he only played in 7 games last season.

I don't see how getting a WR with 1300+ receiving yards last season in the Big Ten in the 6th round is a bad idea.

You don't look at the numbers to determine whether a prospect is deserving of a first round pick or not. That's the WORST strategy to use.

 

 

Either you can make plays or you can't. It's not like he's a DT where you are expected to eat blocks and stats are hard to come by unless you are absolutely elite. I'd rather take a guy with average measureables who balled in college than someone with freakish measureables who has yet to put it all together and may never. Elvis Dumervil comes to mind. Alot of people said he couldn't play or wouldn't amount to much in the NFL because of his size even though he dominated every one he went up against in college. He has worked out well.

 

And I'm telling you that's flawed. No other way to put it. You can't just look at numbers. It doesn't tell you the whole picture.

 

Btw, he only played in 7 games last season.

 

I don't just look at numbers. I'm not a professional talent evaluater but when I'm making a list of players I want to follow during the draft I go with:

 

1. Players with very good size/speed and stats.

 

2. Players who are lacking physically but put up very good stats(unless they are so low on physical talent it is insane like a WR who runs a 4.98 40-time.)

 

I leave underachievers like Jones off.

 

You obviously think he will be a special player, I think he'll be a decent rotation type of guy. We'll have to wait a couple years to see who was right.

I like the two wide recievers Miami got as undrafted free agents over the ones they drafted. Fuller and Moye were both productive in college and have good size/speed combonations. Like the idea of keeping the Tannehill-Fuller connection intact.

 

I think the Dolphins now have some nice depth at WR with Bess, Hartline, Gates, Fuller, and Moye. Now two of them need to step up and be the go-to-guys.

 

The undrafted safety Kelcie McCray also intrigues me.

Suggestions that Seau took his own life, RIP.

 

 

Espn is saying that the Police have confirmed this now. Very sad..

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