November 9, 201213 yr Playing days have nothing to do with ability to coach. Who said it did? I said "We don't know for sure that Martinez can coach what he obviously knows how to do, but he has to be an improvement on total uselessness, no matter how bad he may be at coaching."
November 9, 201213 yr The Tino hiring came from the top perhaps Loria? Not Redmond's. Ah sh*t, he's Loria's guy? f***, our guys are gonna hit like .210 this year combined. We hit .244 this year which was a franchise low.
November 9, 201213 yr Can't possibly be worse than Perez. 271/344/471/815 over 15 years indicates that he has a pretty good clue about how to hit. His peak year was 296/371/577/948. 503 PAs per year over 16 years of mostly full-time play. Perez never had more than 330 PAs in 13 years and averaged 157/year. Nepotism sucks. Hiring actual talent is better. We don't know for sure that Martinez can coach what he obviously knows how to do, but he has to be an improvement on total uselessness, no matter how bad he may be at coaching. Playing days have nothing to do with ability to coach. One of the most popular phrases in the world is "those who can't do, teach" I can't throw a curveball, but I could teach someone how. Does that make me a bad pitcher, yes. A bad coach- nope.
November 9, 201213 yr Playing days have nothing to do with ability to coach. Who said it did? I said "We don't know for sure that Martinez can coach what he obviously knows how to do, but he has to be an improvement on total uselessness, no matter how bad he may be at coaching." Except that Eduardo Perez wasn't as terrible as everyone said he was, but ok.
November 9, 201213 yr Joe Frisaro �@JoeFrisaro Jeffrey Loria names Tino Martinez hitting coach Fixed. Which means I'm still apprehensive. But let's wait and see.
November 10, 201213 yr I don't know how much blame you can put on Perez for the Marlins offensive shortcomings... But someone has to be the scapegoat. I am fine with this, Tino was a professional hitter just like Redmond and I'm sure he'll be able to teach these guys something.
November 10, 201213 yr I don't know how much blame you can put on Perez for the Marlins offensive shortcomings... But someone has to be the scapegoat. I am fine with this, Tino was a professional hitter just like Redmond and I'm sure he'll be able to teach these guys something. Eduardo was most likely the only cause of Lomo's and Sanchez's demise. Each hitter is different, you can't try to change their approach before they have matured at that level without ruining the basic foundation of what got them there. Trying to get Lomo to hit for more power, when he was a On Base guy killed him the past 2 years. You gotta let him hit for power after he gets the pitch he wants. I'll be okay with a 10 HR, 280 average from Lomo if he OBP 360-400.
November 10, 201213 yr I don't know how much blame you can put on Perez for the Marlins offensive shortcomings... But someone has to be the scapegoat. I am fine with this, Tino was a professional hitter just like Redmond and I'm sure he'll be able to teach these guys something. Eduardo was most likely the only cause of Lomo's and Sanchez's demise. Each hitter is different, you can't try to change their approach before they have matured at that level without ruining the basic foundation of what got them there. Trying to get Lomo to hit for more power, when he was a On Base guy killed him the past 2 years. You gotta let him hit for power after he gets the pitch he wants. I'll be okay with a 10 HR, 280 average from Lomo if he OBP 360-400. That line is pretty underwhelming for a LF/1B. That's not any better than Gaby was either.
November 10, 201213 yr I don't know how much blame you can put on Perez for the Marlins offensive shortcomings... But someone has to be the scapegoat. I am fine with this, Tino was a professional hitter just like Redmond and I'm sure he'll be able to teach these guys something. Eduardo was most likely the only cause of Lomo's and Sanchez's demise. Each hitter is different, you can't try to change their approach before they have matured at that level without ruining the basic foundation of what got them there. Trying to get Lomo to hit for more power, when he was a On Base guy killed him the past 2 years. You gotta let him hit for power after he gets the pitch he wants. I'll be okay with a 10 HR, 280 average from Lomo if he OBP 360-400. That line is pretty underwhelming for a LF/1B. That's not any better than Gaby was either. He'd get on base, which is the hope. Right now he was batting 240 something and hardly walking IIRC.
November 10, 201213 yr it's not going to be any WORSE than Eduardo and it's also not like there was some premium hitting coach out there on the market (other than Big Mac maybe who wouldn't come here anyway)....Tino was always considered a good leader in the clubhouse as well during his NY days so here's hoping that translates into a solid coach. In the end I highly doubt he'll be any worse than Eduardo.
November 11, 201213 yr Th organization needs a new approach when it comes to hitting, Tino provides that, that is move in the right direction
November 14, 201213 yr In an effort to ease Tino Martinez, who's never coached, into coaching the Marlins are going to start him off with their minor league team in Miami. This will be the Marlins AAAA team
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