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Not a horrible idea but its pretty unecessary. I love that KC bullpen as much as the next guy but it seems like every other team is suddenly toying with copying this idea. And even if multiple teams went with this plan, it won't work for everyone. Its already an overblown idea despite it's success in KC this year.

 

I guess, at worst, its an idea to keep in the back of the FO's mind but its not really important right now.

 

 

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While u tend to agree, Chapman ain't a dime a dozen arm. More like once in a generation.

 

Absolutely true, but only one inning at a time. Elite relief pitchers are the most overpaid players in baseball.

 

His 2.7 WAR was awesome for a relief pitcher, but for reference, that's about the same WAR as Casey McGehee (2.0) + Adeiny Hechavarria (0.6) or Marcell Ozuna (3.7) + Reed Johnson (-0.7) + Greg Dobbs (-0.2).

 

 

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I wouldn't do this right now and it's really just more terrible "journalism" from Frisaro, but building a super pen could be an alternative to compensate for our mediocre staff.

 

Still not a fan of so many dollars in the bullpen. Also, his idea of trading Cishek for assets would make no sense. Trade assets to get Chapman only to potentially turn around and trade Cishek for assets. Wtf. He (Frisaro) should've just left that part out.

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I wouldn't do this right now and it's really just more terrible "journalism" from Frisaro, but building a super pen could be an alternative to compensate for our mediocre staff.

 

Still not a fan of so many dollars in the bullpen. Also, his idea of trading Cishek for assets would make no sense. Trade assets to get Chapman only to potentially turn around and trade Cishek for assets. Wtf. He (Frisaro) should've just left that part out.

 

 

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Get him and try him as a starter.

 

He is only making 5 mil this year and even with another big year will still be affordable next season.

 

Worth a lot more than that even if he is a reliever the whole time. As a starter he is worth way more than that.

 

Of course it depends what they would want.

 

 

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Get him and try him as a starter.

 

Congratulations, this is no longer Wild Card exclusive!

 

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Chapman has been amazing out of the bullpen, why change that? Each time the Reds have considered it, they decided, "keep him in the bullpen." And now, they're not even considering it anymore. Why? Cause amazing out of bullpen.

 

He won't throw 102 consistently as a starter. He only has a fastball and slider, thus won't be so effective.

 

Just ... ^^ picture.

 

 

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Congratulations, this is no longer Wild Card exclusive!

 

tumblr_ljuyqxHtSg1qj92txo1_400.jpg

 

Chapman has been amazing out of the bullpen, why change that? Each time the Reds have considered it, they decided, "keep him in the bullpen." And now, they're not even considering it anymore. Why? Cause amazing out of bullpen.

 

He won't throw 102 consistently as a starter. He only has a fastball and slider, thus won't be so effective.

 

Just ... ^^ picture.

 

 

 

You try it because starters are way more valuable than relievers. He doesn't need to throw 102 consistently and he only needs two pitches when that fastball and slider are that good. Randy Johnson also only threw fastball and slider and early in his career he was thought to only be a reliever as well.

 

The Reds keep him i the bullpen because Dusty Baker has the same kind of antiquated thinking that you have regarding relief pitchers.

 

You try him as a starter. If it works out its a huge win (like C.J. Wilson for the Rangers), if it doesn't then you move him back.

 

To not even try is dumb.

 

 

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