May 30, 201610 yr I just saw that Stanton also available for today or tomorrow as PH. Not sure when he's back in lineup but we need him back ASAP. I have a new appreciation for Dunn since he's been gone. Hopefully ureña is sent down and not Wittgren.
May 30, 201610 yr I just saw that Stanton also available for today or tomorrow as PH. Not sure when he's back in lineup but we need him back ASAP. I have a new appreciation for Dunn since he's been gone. Hopefully ureña is sent down and not Wittgren. I'm hoping the same. Also hoping Morris doesn't get an immediate spot back in the bullpen when he's off the DL.
May 30, 201610 yr The DL stint seems to have already done wonders for Dunn. Almost everyone seems to have forgotten that he has been one of the worst pitchers in MLB since he got here. Anyway, I also hope Wittgren stays instead of Ureña. Dunn as consistently misused by the old regime. Hopefully Donny can use him properly and effectively. As for Morris I thought he was having season ending surgery?
May 30, 201610 yr Dunn as consistently misused by the old regime. Hopefully Donny can use him properly and effectively. As for Morris I thought he was having season ending surgery? I thought it was still in the air with Morris.
May 30, 201610 yr The DL stint seems to have already done wonders for Dunn. Almost everyone seems to have forgotten that he has been one of the worst pitchers in MLB since he got here. Dunn was good from 2013-2014. He ranks 9th in left handed rp fWAR in that time frame. He did take a bit of a step back last year, but that was mostly home run related and probably won't continue (nearly double the HR/FB rate compared to the three years previous). I don't know why this place has such a hate boner for Dunn. Not everybody is going to be Chapman, but he's p solid
May 30, 201610 yr It's just never good to be in a position where you have to hide the ineffectiveness of your relievers by putting them in specific roles. And honestly, Dunn had been used in a variety of roles with little success. I obviously hope it works out, but I'm not holding my breath. I disagree. Modern baseball is all about defining set roles for relievers. A lot of teams do it and it works for them.
May 30, 201610 yr You say that now. No, I've always thought that. Dunn, like Ramos, gets an unfair amount of hatred from the fanbase.
May 30, 201610 yr Dunn and Ramos do not belong in the same sentence, unless they are being contrasted. Are you going to totally disregard Nny's post about Dunn's #'s in 2013 & 2014? He had a rough year last year, but if he can get back to 2013-14, it'd just make the backend of our bullpen even stronger. 2013: 67.2 innings, 2.66 ERA, 9.58 K/9 2014: 57 innings, 3.16 ERA, 10.58 K/9 You wouldn't take that right now?
May 30, 201610 yr As for Ramos, I agree that he's better, but my point was that a lot of people don't like him either for some reason.
May 30, 201610 yr I would take those stats on a pitcher who hasn't routinely ruined our chances of winning. I am, however, keeping an open mind towards Dunn and his return. It's not like I'd rather if he stayed on the DL. I'm just not going to treat him like the savior of the bullpen. So you don't think that Dunn is better than Urena/Edwin Jackson/McGowan/Wittgren? The point is that he's an upgrade. No one is treating him like a savior, but the team is better with him, no? Not to mention he's a lefty out of the pen. I know some people think he's awful against lefties, but he isn't. He's held lefties to a .216 batting average in his career. Let's just say he's 100x better than any lefty reliever we've had this year.
May 30, 201610 yr You can say that for every player on the team, though, especially Hechavarria, Prado, Ozuna, and to some extent, Stanton. Although, Stanton is his own category. Most people like Prado and Ozuna. And I'm one of the few who's not a fan of Hech's. Even Hech, I don't think he's terrible, but just that I think we should've sold high. I don't think that he's a good hitter and the overall #'s support that. You just said that Dunn has been one of the worst pitchers in MLB since he got here. That's going a bit overboard I think.
May 30, 201610 yr I never said he wasn't better. If I had to choose a role for him, I would use him as a lefty specialist before the eighth inning and as a bridge reliever who can come in for a couple innings to get to our three, sometimes four, extremely reliable relievers. McGowan has done a surprisingly good job. I view our bullpen as serviceable, even though it has soft spots. If we were to replace Ureña with Dunn, we would probably have something that would work. That's what people are looking forward to I think.
May 30, 201610 yr Author I just hope we keep Ureña in our system. I see potential there. Also, I worry that Dunn is going to replace Wittgren. He'd be optioned, not DFA'd.
May 30, 201610 yr Author I think they'd want to get Urena back to the minors and have him start again. Yes me too
May 30, 201610 yr I don't know why this place has such a hate boner for Dunn. Not everybody is going to be Chapman, but he's p solid Because he allows too many batters to reach base (i.e. walks)
May 30, 201610 yr I thought it was still in the air with Morris. Still undecided but if the injury is that serious that season ending is an option you gotta believe there isn't an option that just says rest for a few days and come back next week. Translation, don't expect Morris back anytime soon.
May 31, 201610 yr Dunn was good from 2013-2014. He ranks 9th in left handed rp fWAR in that time frame. He did take a bit of a step back last year, but that was mostly home run related and probably won't continue (nearly double the HR/FB rate compared to the three years previous). I don't know why this place has such a hate boner for Dunn. Not everybody is going to be Chapman, but he's p solid I don't get it either. I know we always like to have a bullpen scapegoat but he's not really it.
May 31, 201610 yr So when does Jackson pack his bags? Sent from my SM-G900T using MarlinsBaseball.com mobile app
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