Admin Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Per Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Yay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I just saw that Stanton also available for today or tomorrow as PH. Not sure when he's back in lineup but we need him back ASAP. I have a new appreciation for Dunn since he's been gone. Hopefully ureña is sent down and not Wittgren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I just saw that Stanton also available for today or tomorrow as PH. Not sure when he's back in lineup but we need him back ASAP. I have a new appreciation for Dunn since he's been gone. Hopefully ureña is sent down and not Wittgren. I'm hoping the same. Also hoping Morris doesn't get an immediate spot back in the bullpen when he's off the DL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishes on the Pond Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 WOO HOO. It would be great to have these off the DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 The DL stint seems to have already done wonders for Dunn. Almost everyone seems to have forgotten that he has been one of the worst pitchers in MLB since he got here. Anyway, I also hope Wittgren stays instead of Ureña. Dunn as consistently misused by the old regime. Hopefully Donny can use him properly and effectively. As for Morris I thought he was having season ending surgery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Dunn as consistently misused by the old regime. Hopefully Donny can use him properly and effectively. As for Morris I thought he was having season ending surgery? I thought it was still in the air with Morris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nny Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 The DL stint seems to have already done wonders for Dunn. Almost everyone seems to have forgotten that he has been one of the worst pitchers in MLB since he got here. Dunn was good from 2013-2014. He ranks 9th in left handed rp fWAR in that time frame. He did take a bit of a step back last year, but that was mostly home run related and probably won't continue (nearly double the HR/FB rate compared to the three years previous). I don't know why this place has such a hate boner for Dunn. Not everybody is going to be Chapman, but he's p solid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 It's just never good to be in a position where you have to hide the ineffectiveness of your relievers by putting them in specific roles. And honestly, Dunn had been used in a variety of roles with little success. I obviously hope it works out, but I'm not holding my breath. I disagree. Modern baseball is all about defining set roles for relievers. A lot of teams do it and it works for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Dunn isn't that bad. He's an upgrade over what we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted May 30, 2016 Author Share Posted May 30, 2016 Dunn isn't that bad. He's an upgrade over what we have. So are you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 You say that now. No, I've always thought that. Dunn, like Ramos, gets an unfair amount of hatred from the fanbase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Dunn and Ramos do not belong in the same sentence, unless they are being contrasted. Are you going to totally disregard Nny's post about Dunn's #'s in 2013 & 2014? He had a rough year last year, but if he can get back to 2013-14, it'd just make the backend of our bullpen even stronger. 2013: 67.2 innings, 2.66 ERA, 9.58 K/9 2014: 57 innings, 3.16 ERA, 10.58 K/9 You wouldn't take that right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 As for Ramos, I agree that he's better, but my point was that a lot of people don't like him either for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I would take those stats on a pitcher who hasn't routinely ruined our chances of winning. I am, however, keeping an open mind towards Dunn and his return. It's not like I'd rather if he stayed on the DL. I'm just not going to treat him like the savior of the bullpen. So you don't think that Dunn is better than Urena/Edwin Jackson/McGowan/Wittgren? The point is that he's an upgrade. No one is treating him like a savior, but the team is better with him, no? Not to mention he's a lefty out of the pen. I know some people think he's awful against lefties, but he isn't. He's held lefties to a .216 batting average in his career. Let's just say he's 100x better than any lefty reliever we've had this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 You can say that for every player on the team, though, especially Hechavarria, Prado, Ozuna, and to some extent, Stanton. Although, Stanton is his own category. Most people like Prado and Ozuna. And I'm one of the few who's not a fan of Hech's. Even Hech, I don't think he's terrible, but just that I think we should've sold high. I don't think that he's a good hitter and the overall #'s support that. You just said that Dunn has been one of the worst pitchers in MLB since he got here. That's going a bit overboard I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I never said he wasn't better. If I had to choose a role for him, I would use him as a lefty specialist before the eighth inning and as a bridge reliever who can come in for a couple innings to get to our three, sometimes four, extremely reliable relievers. McGowan has done a surprisingly good job. I view our bullpen as serviceable, even though it has soft spots. If we were to replace Ureña with Dunn, we would probably have something that would work. That's what people are looking forward to I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted May 30, 2016 Author Share Posted May 30, 2016 I just hope we keep Ureña in our system. I see potential there. Also, I worry that Dunn is going to replace Wittgren. He'd be optioned, not DFA'd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I think they'd want to get Urena back to the minors and have him start again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted May 30, 2016 Author Share Posted May 30, 2016 I think they'd want to get Urena back to the minors and have him start again. Yes me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyggyMarlin Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I don't know why this place has such a hate boner for Dunn. Not everybody is going to be Chapman, but he's p solid Because he allows too many batters to reach base (i.e. walks) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I thought it was still in the air with Morris. Still undecided but if the injury is that serious that season ending is an option you gotta believe there isn't an option that just says rest for a few days and come back next week. Translation, don't expect Morris back anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vince0926 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 hopefully he wont face Polanco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Dunn was good from 2013-2014. He ranks 9th in left handed rp fWAR in that time frame. He did take a bit of a step back last year, but that was mostly home run related and probably won't continue (nearly double the HR/FB rate compared to the three years previous). I don't know why this place has such a hate boner for Dunn. Not everybody is going to be Chapman, but he's p solid I don't get it either. I know we always like to have a bullpen scapegoat but he's not really it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdg210 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 So when does Jackson pack his bags? Sent from my SM-G900T using MarlinsBaseball.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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