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8/16 Post Game Thread

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Offense has disappeared.

Elieser with a great start and ends up with the no decision. Maybe next time we try him a third time through? Who knows.

Three baserunners the entire game, just not going to cut it. Two hits.

Get Mags Sierra in the lineup tomorrow, for the love of goodness.

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2 minutes ago, SonOfJack said:

I think we need @FishFan95 to start a game thread. 

Correct.

 

Last 19 offensive innings, we've scored 1 run. That's fairly unacceptable. The team got pretty exposed this weekend.

I think I want this lineup tomorrow:

LF Sierra

2B Berti

DH Aguilar

3B Anderson

1B Diaz

C- Cervelli

SS Villar

RF Brinson/Joyce

CF Harrison

 

Whether or not we get anything like that ... IDK. Just move Villar down a ways until he can show patience.

Why did my Lewis Brinson thread get locked?

I feel like a good way to sum up this game and the last few years is that he’s terrible.

Stop trying to play this guy against left handed pitching as if he’s some sort of lefty masher. He can’t hit anyone. Put the best players on the field and stop trying to validate the Yelich trade. We lost that trade, it is what it is. 

Play the best players.

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12 minutes ago, Erick said:

Why did my Lewis Brinson thread get locked?

I feel like a good way to sum up this game and the last few years is that he’s terrible.

It wasn't necessary.

This is supposedly his "last chance" so they need to just play him against all.

Nobody on the offense did anything the last two games, so why single out Brinson? Shoot, he had the best at bats against Fried, anyways.

21 minutes ago, Michael said:

It wasn't necessary.

This is supposedly his "last chance" so they need to just play him against all.

Nobody on the offense did anything the last two games, so why single out Brinson? Shoot, he had the best at bats against Fried, anyways.

He had a misplay in LF today, and, all in all, he’s terrible.

They don’t need to him against all; they actually don’t need to play him at all. We’re in the middle of a playoff race; the guy has no business in any lineup, especially hitting 5th. 

He better be out of here when the Covid guys come back. If he goes on to be good for another team, good for him. He’s had enough chances here. 

A career .182/.239/.291 CAREER slash line and he’s out there hitting 5th today. 

Oh yeah, and he’s 26 years old already, not exactly young for development purposes.

It’s basically because we’re trying our best to say we didn’t get absolutely robbed in that Yelich trade when it’s clear we did.

At this point, who cares about the Yelich deal? Play the guys who deserve to play and try to make the playoffs in this shortened season.

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3 minutes ago, Erick said:

He had a misplay in LF today, and, all in all, he’s terrible.

They don’t need to him against all; they actually don’t need to play him at all. We’re in the middle of a playoff race; the guy has no business in any lineup, especially hitting 5th. 

He better be out of here when the Covid guys come back. If he goes on to be good for another team, good for him. He’s had enough chances here. 

Hitting 5th, I agree, shouldn't be that high up. But if they're honest about giving him one last shot, they can't half-ass it. His approach has changed and he needs to get the reps in to prove it works or not. Not just play games against lefties.

Yes he misplayed a ball today. That sucked.

He probably will be gone once all of the COVID returns happen, so whatever.

7 minutes ago, Michael said:

Hitting 5th, I agree, shouldn't be that high up. But if they're honest about giving him one last shot, they can't half-ass it. His approach has changed and he needs to get the reps in to prove it works or not. Not just play games against lefties.

Yes he misplayed a ball today. That sucked.

He probably will be gone once all of the COVID returns happen, so whatever.

We shouldn’t be developing guys at the big league level imo. That time should be over. We have a team good enough to compete for a playoff spot considering the state of our division.

Brinson isn’t a top 3 outfielder on the team. If he needs to play every day, maybe he can try out for the Pirates for the rest of the year. They’re probably interested in the 1st pick of the draft.

Maybe a better thread would’ve been to ask who is out of this team when our guys are back healthy.

I’m assuming Brinson is on that list. Lavarnway (not better than Alfaro), Moran, the Josh Smith’s, and Monte should all go back down too imo.

15 minutes ago, Marlino said:

The man was expressing his views about a player. Is this not what this is about. Are you Brinson's dad, girlfriend? Have you ever seen what fans write in other baseball cities like NY, Chicago, etc. about players?  That dictatorial attitude does not help fan input its creativity and/or entertainment value.

I’m not even trying to be mean, but this.

Brinson seems like a nice, respectful guy, but can you imagine him in another market right now? He probably wouldn’t be playing baseball anymore. 

I can’t think of one thing he does well. Even his speed, he doesn’t use it too well. What’s his value to the team? I have no interest in watching him anymore. Maybe he’ll be better on another team, good for him. It’s not going to work out here.

I’m tired of watching him dominate every Spring Training only to be basically the worst hitter ever when the real games begin. And he’s been hitting 5th or 6th a lot, it’s a reason why we’ve done better against right-handed pitching than left-handed pitching so far. We have an automatic out in the middle of the lineup against left-handed pitching for no reason. 

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10 minutes ago, Marlino said:

The man was expressing his views about a player. Is this not what this is about. Are you Brinson's dad, girlfriend? Have you ever seen what fans write in other baseball cities like NY, Chicago, etc. about players?  That dictatorial attitude does not help fan input its creativity and/or entertainment value.

We have the post-game threads after almost every game where he's perfectly free (and is doing so without being silenced as you're making it seem) to voice his opinion about it. We don't really need a separate thread on Brinson. That's all it is. I don't care what the New York, Chicago, Boston, whoever fans say about players. Yes I've seen it. They're assholes and super reactionary (I've seen calls for managerial firings after two games). But that's them.

2 minutes ago, Erick said:

We shouldn’t be developing guys at the big league level imo. That time should be over. We have a team good enough to compete for a playoff spot considering the state of our division.

Brinson isn’t a top 3 outfielder on the team. If he needs to play every day, maybe he can try out for the Pirates for the rest of the year. They’re probably interested in the 1st pick of the draft.

Regarding the first part of this post, we don't have a minor league season in which to develop anyone, so not much other option really. Alternate site can only do so much.

On the *current* team as it is constructed, Brinson may be (and I'm including Dickerson as being off the roster since he technically is at the moment). But that really only speaks to the rest of the outfielders, not him. Sierra has been the only one to warrant full time starts with his performance, so why he hasn't been, I don't know. Again, once the COVID guys are back, he's most likely gone anyways. With the current roster, as constructed, he should be getting at bats, if they're serious about him having a shot. This has not been a serious attempt to give him at bats in my opinion, this has been to see if he can handle a platoon role. His approach, which many seem to be ignoring, has been a lot better. But I know, after so many years, people just want results, so, whatever.

1 minute ago, Erick said:

Maybe a better thread would’ve been to ask who is out of this team when our guys are back healthy.

I’m assuming Brinson is on that list. Lavarnway (not better than Alfaro), Moran, the Josh Smith’s, and Monte should all go back down too imo.

Yes, perfectly fine, although we've already got a COVID thread too, so it could be discussed there.

Anywho.

1 minute ago, Michael said:

While we're at it - when is Sterling Sharp going to get some work in? Why is the team treating him like the last resort?

I agree, I’d like to see some more of him.

We need a young arm to emerge out of the bullpen. Or to make a trade for a bullpen arm, but I feel like that’s going to be tough this year.

In a "win now " season, you should played the best players to win the most games so why keep starting Yamamoto while Mejia or Sixto is available ?

This sucks.

Sierra needs to play everyday. Period full stop.

Forsythe should only be used as a pinch hitter. Period full stop.

Unless Villar becomes a high OBP guy, he should be used as a power bat with some speed.

With that here is my marlins lineup:

Cf Sierra

DH Aguilar/3B Anderson

SS Villar/1B Diaz

DH Aguilar/3B Anderson

RF/DH/Where ever Dickerson/Diaz

Berti/C Cervelli

Berti/C Lavarnway

Of spot 2 Joyce/ Brinson/ Harrison

Eddy Alvarez/ Harrison

Honestly after writing this out, I think I have changed my mind. Without the full roster, the only way this team is successful is if Sierra continues to be hyper selective, and plays everyday. There is only so much Mattingly can do. This team is just not good without some more consistent bats in the lineup. I think it is a mistake to not ride Sierra, but I don't know what is going one behind the scenes. It is clear the organization has high hopes for him, and are treating him as if he is a top prospect. They are really doing there best to mold this new incarnation. I just wish they'd trust the approach all together.

 

 

4 hours ago, 97marlin said:

I think it is a mistake to not ride Sierra, but I don't know what is going one behind the scenes.

Considering the way the roster is currently constructed I don't see any reason why Sierra isn't playing every day at the very least until the covid guys come back.

And what's up with Forsythe being used so much? And how are they still trotting Yamamoto out there?

And I'm not "worried" about Villar but he's hurt us a few times already so either move him around in the lineup or give him a couple of days off. 

1 hour ago, SilverBullet said:

Considering the way the roster is currently constructed I don't see any reason why Sierra isn't playing every day at the very least until the covid guys come back.

And what's up with Forsythe being used so much? And how are they still trotting Yamamoto out there?

And I'm not "worried" about Villar but he's hurt us a few times already so either move him around in the lineup or give him a couple of days off. 

Not disagreeing, but who is supposed to start in his place right now with so many guys out?

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Just now, rmc523 said:

Not disagreeing, but who is supposed to start in his place right now with so many guys out?

True, I was just thinking about how bad he's been. I guess he gets another start or two by default but he's gotta go when the covid guys get back from Illinois. 

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