I know we all think bonds is on the jucie, but there's a possibility he could of worked out like a mad man, right?

 

Wrong, it is an impossibility, read on:

My Little Steroid Witch Hunt

 

What exactly am I measuring?

 

"Anabolic steroids also have "Anabolic" effects, those associated with growth of bone... "-http://www.sports-drugs.com/asp/ss_features8.asp

 

Anabolic steroids and especially HGH (human growth hormone) are nortonious for growing a body's features, especially the face. Anabolic steroid and or HGH use increases chin, cheek, forehead, and even nose size. When someone absues a drug, many times their face will literally increase in size. Above, I show you two examples.

 

One, Mike Mussina, is a pitcher who did not change body weight and obviously does not take anything enhancing drug such as HGH or steroids. The second example is a man who gained a lot of weight since the beginning of his career, Cliff Floyd. It is entirely possible he gained this weight naturally/legally by working out or taking Creatine. However, he could of also used HGH and or steroids. However, even though his face appears more filled out, whether it be form increased water retention from creatine use or just overally more fat in the face, his bone structure did not change, thus he most probably gained this weight naturally.

 

So how do I determine this? Two rather simple methods. One is I put a rookie player next to the most recent picture of a player. It is as simple as using simple visual observation.

 

However, look at the picture below which almost without doubt proves that "the greatest hitter ever", Barry Bonds, is msot definitely abusing an anabolic steroid and or HGH.

 

 

The method used here is simply putting lines from one body feature's extreme to the next (such as left to right cheek or left to right forhead.) By simply comparing two proprotionally equal pictures (this is assessed by taking one picture and superimposing the other over it and when the eye of one player is the exact size of his same eye from the other picture when picture size is adjusted) and measuring their features. Furthermore, one can take the superimposed pictures, put them on top of each other, and literally just put lines between where the features of the given player in one picture is larger than the other.

 

By superimposing the picture one can visually see the difference in facial structure between an old and new picture. Furthermore, one can take the lines that are between the facial features and simply place them at a point where we can see the difference between them.

 

The point? Barry Bonds is a fraud and should be kicked out of the sport and have his MVPs revoked. And some props for Cliff Floyd.

 

If you want to have any player checked, just leave a message here or email me at cat6@geneseo.edu If possible, try to provide pictures with the man looking straight forward, because it is easier and more precise that way. May the witch hunt, err, search for truth go on.

 

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LMAO @ Barry roids up the ass,and props to cliffy for not using that crap.

Nice analysis sorianofan.

good analysis, but for the super imposed images, wouldn't the pictures have to be from the same angle to work?

yes, for it to work 100% it would have to be the right angle, however one can adjust accordingly. There's one bonds picture not entirely at the right angle, but all the others are face forward shots with almost no difference in angle (besides a mike mussina one slightly.)

Nice analysis. :notworthy

Update: Known Anabolic Steroid Users (Caminiti and Canseco), Known HGH user (Jason Giambi), and the TRUTH about Sammy Sosa.

 

2/6/04 by Craig

 

Jason Giambi Uses HGH

 

 

Yes, he does. He openly uses HGH so we can analyze what HGH use does to the body. Nevertheless, here's an excerpt from joemuscle.com (http://www.1dietproduct.com/giambi.html)

 

"The New York Yankee's first-baseman, and American League?s 2000 MVP, Jason Giambi, also begins his day with a packet of hGH Promino-Plus AM, followed by breakfast.

 

Forty-five minutes after breakfast, Jason prepares for cardiovascular and weight training by taking one Diurlean, and one Zenotrope capsule.

 

Immediately after training, Jason mixes in skim milk, one packet of Complete Pro Power with two scoops of Complete Whey Power and one Super Vitamin Pak.

 

Around forty-five minutes prior to bedtime, Giambi takes two scoops of Complete Whey Power in water or juice.

 

Right before going to bed, Jason takes one packet of hGH Promino-Plus PM."

 

Even after the Balco controversy, what is known is that Giambi uses HGH (human growth hormone) to increase muscular strength. However, it is known the hormones, in particular HGH help increase tendon and ligament size, which in turn reduces or eliminates muscular "tightness". Pitchers as well as hitters can now avoid tightness and a lot of injury by using both a steroid and a HGH. Whether or not Giambi uses both is not known, however it is certanly a possibiltiy, especially because of how HGH and anabolic steroids coincide in improving an athletes strength.

 

Note: Picture is proof that measurements are for real, observe the two different "rookie" pictures (Team USA and Goldpanners) and their almost identical sizes.

 

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2/6/04 by Corey

 

Just adding two more pictures made by Craig.

 

 

Here you can see Jose Canseco and Ken Caminitti, two steroid users who admitted to what they were doing. (As we all know) We can see that the foreheads and cheekbones have both grown on both of these users. Just to show you that it is not exactly a photo-trick or anything that Craig has done to Barry Bonds.

 

Now for a shocking discovery:

 

Sammy Sosa Doesn't Juice

 

 

"Holy crap" is all I was able to say when Craig has just proven that Sosa's bone structure has supposedly remained unchanged. Very very disappointing. There goes all of those rumors that Sosa has been using bigger batting helmets over the years. It is a possibility that Sosa is not a steroid abuser. Now, it can just be that Sosa does not face the bone expanding side effect and that his cartoonish facial puffy-ness is from creatine. I personally still think that Sosa is on the juice. What gives when his body gets larger and smaller throughout the year? Oh well, I guess if this was a court he'd be innocent, because he sure has not been proven guilty. Well he is still "corky" and very suspicious.

 

Editor's Note: Damn, he is the only guy who broke Maris' record without increased testosterone and other hormones and such.

Great article and analysis. Gives us some sign what to look for in a Steroid user.

This has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. It proves nothing.

Of course from a poster with Barry Bonds in his sig.

 

Dude, it is A PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY for someone's head to grow as much as Bonds. It porves without doubt that Barry Bonds head has most definitely grown.

 

Now how did Barry's head grow? There are only 3 possibilities

 

1) HGH or steroid use

2) HGH and steroid use

3) abducted by aliens and alien technology did it

 

I hate Sammy Sosa, but look, his skull and jawbone have not changed size. Barry's has incredibly (the same with Caminiti, Canseco, and Giambi.)

 

Can I prove without doubt there has been steroid or HGH abuse? No, but I can prove a player's head is no longer the same size, and that brings us back to those 3 possibilities.

 

As baseball fans, we have the right to know if someone is a cheater or not, if they deserve our praise or not. Truth is not what's important.

 

Great article and analysis. Gives us some sign what to look for in a Steroid user.

All I can do is prove that a head is truly a different size, because the bone structure has enlarged. Thanks for the props.

if bonds came out and said...

 

 

i did steroids....

 

 

would giantsfan or whatever his name is today...would his stance change?

probably not!

hah! so for the last 3 years of me saying "Sammy doesn't juice" and explaining that i watched him put on the 45 pounds or so of muscle over a period from 1992-1994 has finally been vindicated.

i'm going to go and celebrate my moral victory after i post this at a few other places...then i thnk i'll have me some celbratory wine.

spread the truth buddy- where are you posting it?

 

and props to you, I was convinced he juiced until I saw evidence he doesn't.

I think Bonds takes Steroids, he was a little skinny leadoff hitter and all of a sudden 2 years after he is hitting 50+homeruns. Just unbelievable.

This has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. It proves nothing.

LMAO!!

 

Figures. He could see Bonds ejecting the steriods into himself and giants fan would still say he doesnt do steriods.

great analysis but hopefully you are wrong because I just hope that Bonds did not take these illegal supplements for we can truly say he is the greatest hitter of all time.

I find it funny that you called it a witchunt. Drop them in McCovey cove if they float then they are witches, if they sink and drown then they are . And if they float burn them at the stake.

This doesn't prove much to me either. Hulk Hogan's head got smaller when he used steroids. What's that prove?

My head is bigger than it was 2 years ago due to a foreign substance I've been putting into my body...

 

 

 

Cheeseburgers.

first off, i think it's very cool that you and your brother are conducting this steroid witch hunt to uncover the truth.

 

let me point out a few VERY important corrections on the medical part, though:

 

anabolic steroids *DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT* affect the bone structure of a person's face in any way, and they most certainly DO NOT make your facial bones grow. i am 100%, unequivocally positive of this fact. while steroid compounds can affect the integrity of bone in general, they have zero affect on bone growth in adults. anabolic steroids DO NOT make your forehead or your cheekbones bigger (though potential glucocorticoid effects can make the cheeks look different--see below).

 

the primary visible side effects of anabolic steroids are androgenic in nature: bigger muscles, shrunken testicles, breast development in men, emotional changes, acne, hair loss, and virilization(mascularization) to name a few. depending on the molecular composition of the synthetic steroid, you *might* see glucocorticoid effects, which include more acne, more emotional changes, and, in very high doses, greater fat distribution in the face around the cheeks (a rounded "moon face" with puffier cheeks), the back (buffalo hump), and the abdomen.

 

human growth hormone, on the other hand, can cause acromegaly (abnormal bone growth) when taken in very high doses. in adults, the forehead, jaw, and nasal bones grow wider, and the hands and feets grow bigger. also, the soft tissue around the bones in the hands/feet and all around the face grow considerably. the only natural way to have excessive growth hormone is if you suffer from hyperpituitarism.

 

 

juicers with wider foreheads and wider jawbones and thicker faces (and sometimes wider nasal bones, bigger hands, bigger feet, and gappier teeth, for that matter) suffer from classic acromegaly caused by excessive growth hormone. (one note about wider "nasal bones" though: the bone between the eyes grows, not the cartilage in the nostrils).

 

 

 

if you can demonstrate that an athlete's facial bones have grown noticeably wider, it's pretty rational to suggest that he has been taking human growth hormone. however, the size of an athlete's facial bones tells us nothing about whether or not he takes steroids.

 

just because a guy's face hasn't grown doesn't mean he isn't taking HGH, and it certainly doesn't mean he isn't taking steroids.

 

we don't know if sammy uses or not, but i personally think he does because of his HR spike, his puffier cheeks, his demonstrated propensity to cheating, and his unwillingness to pee in a cup.

 

 

 

 

 

a few other points:

 

just because someone's face hasn't grown DOES NOT mean the person doesn't use drugs (hgh). HGH only causes acromegaly when taken in extremely high doses, and everyone's body reacts differently to it.

 

superimposing the images by scaling the "eye size" in the pictures is probably the most horribly flawed way to scale two pictures of different sizes onto each other. a tiny, oblique, irregular-looking structure that's 15 pixels in width, looks a different size in every photograph you take, and changes according to facial expression and angle can NOT be used to scale two images that are easily 30 times larger than that one eye.

 

i can see why you're hard-pressed to find something consistent to scale two facial images on, but i don't think "eye size" is an accurate way at all to scale two different-sized photographs. you could use the diameter of the iris to lineup the images, but it would only work if the face is looking directly at the camera (no angle whatsoever), the iris is clearly visible, and the images are HUMONGOUS so there is no scaling defect since the iris is such a tiny structure.

 

the scaling of some of these pictures is seriously hilarious:

 

 

the picture of giambi the yankee (the post-juicing photograph) is SO CLEARLY a larger picture than the other two... i was laughing hysterically when i read that. if the scaling isn't 100% precise, there is no point in drawing and comparing lines. looking at the photographs, i'd say giambi's face really looks pretty much the same as it did when he was a young kid. that doesn't mean he doesn't juice; remember, you don't always get visible changes when you juice.

 

also, the lines drawn onto the pictures aren't consistently taken from the same locations, and the lengths aren't even close to being measured consistently at the right spots.

 

personally, i don't think this "line" method of quantifying something like facial growth is the best way to depict it. no one's head expands in all directions in a proportional manner because of acromegaly (from taking hgh), so it's extremely misleading when the head in one picture is visibly larger than another picture because the "eye sizes" didn't match up properly. comparing the lengths of the resulting lines is such an inaccurate way to compare two imagse.

 

you could make a much more sound comparison if you put two large pictures, scaled to roughly the same size, next to each other side-by-side, and let the viewer decide if the facial structures look different.

 

 

 

anyways, i apologize if i sound harsh/critical of the premise behind the photographic and medical comparisons you're making. i really do think it's a neat exercise and there is a lot to be gained from scaling two photographs, but you could make a much more credible point if you simply put two scaled before-and-after photos next to each other (without the lines) and let the comparison be made.

 

you did an excellent job in comparing the bonds photographs side-by-side (without the lines). he so clearly is a juicer.

This doesn't prove much to me either. Hulk Hogan's head got smaller when he used steroids. What's that prove?

did it? I don't see any evidence.

http://www.sports-drugs.com/asp/ss_features8.asp

 

I have learned in health class in 12th grade, ESPN, and some sites like the above that an improportionate amount of testosterone in the body can trigger bone growth. I do understand, HGH is by far the more notable of the two for growing facial bone structure.

 

I don't mind criticism. When it comes to this, the only thing that does not change is eyeball size, because HGH or steroids certainly don't increase that. The best personally I can do is use eye-size to my best judgement, because otherwise (as you explained the space between the eyes increases) measurements can turn out false, or more so.

 

For example, if I don't go by eye size and go by the space between Giambi's eyes, making the picture appear more to scale, but in reality it isn't, observe below.

 

 

 

The goldpanners picture of giambi now has larger proportions than the new one. why? because the space between his eyes was naturally smaller, and to expand it to appeal more to what he should look like in result increases his face to an incorrect, too large of a proportion. The fact that his face is now larger by comparing proportions with equal space between the eyes proves that Giambi's face has grown. The eye method however shows you what it has grown from while the in between the eye method just shows there's a difference. Thus, I prefer the eye method.

 

Is my analysis flawless? No, I'm jsut a guy with microsoft photodraw comparing the difference between lengths of lines. Is sammy sosa on steroids? He has spent very little time on the DL, so without the use of hGH, he would of been plagued with injury. however, his face does not show any signs of HGH use. Therefore, I give him the benefit of the doubt that I give to Cliff Floyd (my brother obviously doesn't, he even said he still thinks he juices.) Side effects don't always kick in, but in the cases of Bonds, Giambi, Caminiti (who never admitted to hGH use, he did talk about his improper steroid use that injured him), and Canseco they do.

 

Thanks for the feedback.

I find Soriano research to be true except for one thing:

 

They are using human growth hormone which would explain growth in body parts but couldn't be more wrong about anabolic steroids.

I really don't know if that is true:

"Anabolic steroid users might also suffer from a syndrome called Acromegaly. This is characterized by an increase in the overall size of the skull as well as protrusion of cheek and jaw. One?s hands might become broad with fat, stumpy fingers. The skin of the face becomes coarse as a result of increased growth of subcutaneous tissues. There is generally no increase in height. When looking at a person that suffers from acromegaly, they appear very muscular, but their muscles are actually weak."http://www.esb.utexas.edu/palmer/bio303/group20/steroids.htm

 

It is 100% known that HGH does this, but anabolic steroids might as well, and judging from ken caminiti (who never mentioned HGH use, though he might of), acromegaly might result, because injecting excess testosterone ruins the equilibrium in one's body and I imagine can trigger your body to increase other hormone levels and do other things (for example gynocomastia.)