November 11, 200421 yr dont kno if alrady posted but the marlins offered pavano a 4 year 32 million contract. yes!!!!!! i heard it on one of the news channels. i forgot which one cause i was too excited :cool :lol :notworthy :thumbup
November 11, 200421 yr dont kno if alrady posted but the marlins offered pavano a 4 year 32 million contract. yes!!!!!! i heard it on one of the news channels. i forgot which one cause i was too excited :cool :lol :notworthy :thumbup 613088[/snapback] Don't be pulling our leg here.
November 11, 200421 yr Pavs won't get a better deal anywhere else. Even if a couple of clubs like the Yanks or Sox offer him a massive contract for a couple million more, the difference won't be all that much since he would have to pay some ridiculous taxes on it living in New York or Massachusetts. He better not decline this offer. BTW, you might want to edit the title and be more descriptive on what the thread is about, otherwise someone will probably re-post this once an article becomes available.
November 12, 200421 yr I don't like it...not one bit. We're bidding against ourselves. 3 years $21 million, take it our leave it. Four years, $8 mil a season for a pitcher who had one quality season in his walk year? Fine, do it, but don't EVER cry poor to me again Loria...
November 12, 200421 yr I don't like it...not one bit. We're bidding against ourselves. 3 years $21 million, take it our leave it. Four years, $8 mil a season for a pitcher who had one quality season in his walk year? Fine, do it, but don't EVER cry poor to me again Loria... 613157[/snapback] I agree. If this means we can't afford Benitez and LoDuca then it is a bad move.
November 12, 200421 yr I'm sure this is what they were planning on giving him anyways. When negotiating, you don't start with your best offer. You start with something lower, then see what you're dealing with. Once you see you have to up your offer, you go for it. I'm sure they won't go beyond this. For those who think this is too high for a player that has had one good season, I agree and I've been saying it all along. I remember the days when a player had to have at least 4 straight solid seasons to demand a contract like this.. Unfortunately, this is the way baseball is nowadays... I hope he accepts and comes back next year...
November 12, 200421 yr First of all I don't know if this is true or not but it sounds like someone mimicing Berardino's column this morning.
November 12, 200421 yr They were reporting this on 790's updates this afternoon. If they can sign pavano to this deal i like it. 6-8-8-10 .... makes alot of sense and is the market for a guy like him. It would mean benitiz is gone. I don't think it effects loduca. I think loduca can be penciled in next seasons line-up right now. Beinfest did not trade for this guy for half a season. 6-8-8-10 is an asumption of the breakdown.
November 12, 200421 yr Holy crap! Wow, the Marlins front office must've read Berardino's column this morning.... I agree with Marlins_Giants, this is probably the "final offer" they would normally have held back until after Pavs received the big free agent offers elsewhere, as a last ditch effort to keep him. Better to just let him know up front they're committed to making a serious offer, so Carl knows where they stand. I'm pretty impressed. This is big-time. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't get even higher offers elsewhere, but he'll stay with the team now, unless he was lying last season about wanting to stay here. This is huge.
November 12, 200421 yr 8 million isn't overpriced 613265[/snapback] I agree, I think thats what he deserves anything more would be over paying, if he ever truelly wanted to stay here he'll take that deal, but i could see the marlins having to offering him one more year
November 12, 200421 yr If it is true, I hope he turns us down. He isn't worth anywhere near that amont. AJ and Beckett will commaned $12 million a year compared to him once they become FAs. :mad :
November 12, 200421 yr Of course he's worth that amount of money. Look around the league and see what other pitchers make. That contract is average compared to other pitchers. Small-market mindset I spose
November 12, 200421 yr If it is true, I hope he turns us down. He isn't worth anywhere near that amont. AJ and Beckett will commaned $12 million a year compared to him once they become FAs. :mad : 613270[/snapback] that's assuming either one of them can stay healthy (something neither one of them has managed to do yet). Beckett has yet to have a great season. Pavano's winning games, has a low ERA, and eats up innings. He also stepped up big time in the world series run when it counted. What else do you pay big money for?
November 12, 200421 yr I've said all along I thought 4 years 32 million would get the job done, I wouldn't go over that number though.
November 12, 200421 yr If it is true, I hope he turns us down.? He isn't worth anywhere near that amont.? AJ and Beckett will commaned $12 million a year compared to him once they become FAs.? :mad : 613270[/snapback] that's assuming either one of them can stay healthy (something neither one of them has managed to do yet). Beckett has yet to have a great season. Pavano's winning games, has a low ERA, and eats up innings. He also stepped up big time in the world series run when it counted. What else do you pay big money for? 613275[/snapback] For someone who's done that for more than one year...in a contract year no less. :plain
November 12, 200421 yr He's obviously been improving the last 2 years and looked great this year. I doubt a guy who looked that good the whole year and improve on a quality year the year before, helped us win a world series, would just lose it and only pitch well in a contract year. Thats just ignorant talk. Well worth the money IMO
November 12, 200421 yr I feel that we are paying him too much for just one good year that he had. What of he goes back to being the injury plagued -10 win starter that he was before. Risky move. I like risks :mischief
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