June 13, 200521 yr he has basically become our 5th starter. when there are days off, most teams skip over their 5th guy and go with a four man rotation, and thats precisely what we are doing right now.
June 14, 200521 yr What's the use of putting Al in the pen? 808176[/snapback] Not having him in the rotation
June 14, 200521 yr He doesn't belong in the pen either. The Marlins should let him go. Hopefully this means Beinfest is shopping for another starter though. 808198[/snapback] we dont have the capability to go around cutting $8mil guys
June 14, 200521 yr He doesn't belong in the pen either. The Marlins should let him go. Hopefully this means Beinfest is shopping for another starter though. 808198[/snapback] we dont have the capability to go around cutting $8mil guys 808205[/snapback] youre gonna pay him one way or another...the question asked is do you let him continue to hurt the team?
June 14, 200521 yr He doesn't belong in the pen either.? The Marlins should let him go. Hopefully this means Beinfest is shopping for another starter though. 808198[/snapback] we dont have the capability to go around cutting $8mil guys 808205[/snapback] Dont't waste the bandwidth Ramp, most of the people around here are clueless. :whistle
June 14, 200521 yr He doesn't belong in the pen either. The Marlins should let him go. Hopefully this means Beinfest is shopping for another starter though. 808198[/snapback] we dont have the capability to go around cutting $8mil guys 808205[/snapback] Dont't waste the bandwidth Ramp, most of the people around here are clueless. :whistle 808219[/snapback]
June 14, 200521 yr I dont like the move into the pen. Our pen is struggling and we are going to put someone who makes it even worser, he cant throw strikes. I say he is the next Matt Perisho in relief role.
June 14, 200521 yr At least he can go sit with them in the bullpen and teach them what he taught our young starters......lol
June 14, 200521 yr What exactly did he say? Are they just skipping his start, or will they use him in the bullpen? I'll bet Leiter will start again for the Tampa series.
June 14, 200521 yr In theory the Marlins wouldn't need a 5th pitcher again until the end of the month at home against Atlanta. My only concern with a 4 man rotation is whether Moehler's arm will hold up to this. He's pitched well enough to keep this team in games but I would be concerned with the extra wear and tear on his arm. Maybe by putting Leiter in the pen for a few weeks he can work on his mechanics and be better in the second half of the season.
June 14, 200521 yr He doesn't belong in the pen either.? The Marlins should let him go. Hopefully this means Beinfest is shopping for another starter though. 808198[/snapback] we dont have the capability to go around cutting $8mil guys 808205[/snapback] Dont't waste the bandwidth Ramp, most of the people around here are clueless. :whistle 808219[/snapback] :thumbdown Which do you prefer? To pay a player $7 million to throw melons to opposing hitters. To pay a player $7 million to do no further damage. Just because he is making $7 million that doesn't mean it gives him the right to hurt the team anymore. How am I clueless? 808515[/snapback] I agree with you at least. You don't keep someone you don't need just because you already sunk money into the guy. That's just letting him hurt you twice. On the other hand, I'm not ready to dump Leiter just yet. Right now, the man should be strictly on mop-up duty, and we'll just see how things go from there. I'm not really comfortable with the 4-man rotation idea. I think the solution is to find someone out there who won't screw us every 5th start...at least until Valdez comes back/
June 14, 200521 yr Good to hear this news. It was definately needed. Hopefully he supplies some solid innings out of the pen in the next 2 weeks.
June 14, 200521 yr Notes from the game: Notes Al Leiter (2-6, 6.75 ERA) is moving to the bullpen for now as the Marlins will temporarily go with four starters with two off days in the next week. Leiter hasn't pitched out of the bullpen since 1993 with Toronto. ... It was the second time this season the Cubs have given up seven runs in an inning. The other came on May 1 at Houston in the fifth inning. ... This was the first meeting of the season for the teams, who built a rivalry when the Marlins won the 2003 NL Championship Series in seven games en route to the World Series title.
June 14, 200521 yr Good to hear this news. It was definately needed. Hopefully he supplies some solid innings out of the pen in the next 2 weeks. 808760[/snapback] Just let him pitch any inning except the 2nd.
June 14, 200521 yr I really don't think this is a permanent move, it is just being done for 2 weeks because of the way our schedule is set up and the proximity to the All Star Game. However, hopefully the next 3 weeks will give Al some time to go over his mechanics and finally get his location in check. And hopefully we will get to see our 4 other starters win a bunch of important games for us going into the break. GO FISH!
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